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[ronniecross2]

Firstly, I'm a huge fan of the entire Dragon Age exception, and this one is no different. I pre-ordered in June, and on the last part of last week I spent about 48 hours metaphorically peeing myself with excitement to get tucked in! So far I've not been dissapointed. The game is a masterpiece! 

 

However, I do have a concern that doesn't seem to be addressed anywhere else. 

 

In the lead up, much of the hype surrounded the size of the maps. Some articles even went so far as to 'sensationalize' that every map is bigger than all the areas in DA:O (i.e. this one http://gamingbolt.co...n-age-origins).This seems like a pretty ridiculous statement. At this point I've visited Haven, hinterlands, storm coast, fallow mire, val royeaux and the forbidden oasis. Of all these maps, only the hinterlands seems potentially worthy of the claim. For the rest, both the urn of sacred ashes and the nature of the beast, to my recollection, have bigger areas alone (granted, the maps are smaller and separated, but the areas are bigger). 

 

It could be that my memory is distant (though I did replay both DAO and DA2 earlier this year) but this claim does seem a little hyped. Are there any other areas the size of the hinterlands, or a similar size, later in the game? I've cleared both the storm coast and 'most' of forbidden oasis and the fallow mire, will they replenish later in the game with new quests? Or am I practically done with them? 

 

It's not a huge deal, I'd favour the quality over the quantity, though I don't know if perhaps I'm missing something. I guess my concern is that I'm closer to the end of the game than I'd like to think

[Sith Grey Warden]

I haven't been to too many other areas, but I think Crestwood and Western Approach might qualify.

[revan017]

Exalted Planes is massive

[Dreamer]

I've only barely touched the Hissing Wastes, but it seemed massive--on the scale of the Hinterlands.

[XDamienDaKillaX]

Firstly, I'm a huge fan of the entire Dragon Age exception, and this one is no different. I pre-ordered in June, and on the last part of last week I spent about 48 hours metaphorically peeing myself with excitement to get tucked in! So far I've not been dissapointed. The game is a masterpiece! 

 

However, I do have a concern that doesn't seem to be addressed anywhere else. 

 

In the lead up, much of the hype surrounded the size of the maps. Some articles even went so far as to 'sensationalize' that every map is bigger than all the areas in DA:O (i.e. this one http://gamingbolt.co...n-age-origins).This seems like a pretty ridiculous statement. At this point I've visited Haven, hinterlands, storm coast, fallow mire, val royeaux and the forbidden oasis. Of all these maps, only the hinterlands seems potentially worthy of the claim. For the rest, both the urn of sacred ashes and the nature of the beast, to my recollection, have bigger areas alone (granted, the maps are smaller and separated, but the areas are bigger). 

 

It could be that my memory is distant (though I did replay both DAO and DA2 earlier this year) but this claim does seem a little hyped. Are there any other areas the size of the hinterlands, or a similar size, later in the game? I've cleared both the storm coast and 'most' of forbidden oasis and the fallow mire, will they replenish later in the game with new quests? Or am I practically done with them? 

 

It's not a huge deal, I'd favour the quality over the quantity, though I don't know if perhaps I'm missing something. I guess my concern is that I'm closer to the end of the game than I'd like to think

Val Royeaux does not count as one of the 10 playable areas. Storm Coast and Fallow Mire are two of the very smallest. As said above, Hissing Wastes, Exalted Plains, Crestwood and the Western Approach are all close to Hinterlands level of size. Can't speak for Arbor Wilds or the Emerald Graves, and I forget the 10th area.

[Back Lot Basher]

For me, it wasn't even so much the size, as the design.  The landscape itself is so densely packed with things to discover, and pick up, and pathways are not always obvious, but once you find them, they are easy to use (unlike the task of climbing to high ground in Skyrim).  Ravines, rock-cuts, knolls, creekbeds, thatches of forest, they all have so much detail.  I remember the first time I saw the Storm Coast, and noticed how runoff from the mountains had formed little grooves in the rocky shore.  Little details like that blew my mind, and made me want to just sit there for a while and soak it all in.

[ronniecross2]

Thanks for the responses :-) Good to hear there are other large maps out there! I just finished In Your Heart Shall Burn last night which which was fantastic. I get the feeling things are gonna get a lot more involved now :-)

[x1mr1peanut1x]

Well Val Royeaux is a city, not what you'd consider a normal "map". The other zones you listed (with the exception of the Hinterlands) are some of the smallest in the game. You are setting yourself up for a slug through some giant zones, lol. For reference, the Hinterlands is about peak size but there are other regions that are about the same size or just a tad smaller. Additionally, all of the zones are packed with tons of content and interesting things to explore. You will not be let down. 

[ronniecross2]

Well Val Royeaux is a city, not what you'd consider a normal "map". The other zones you listed (with the exception of the Hinterlands) are some of the smallest in the game. You are setting yourself up for a slug through some giant zones, lol. For reference, the Hinterlands is about peak size but there are other regions that are about the same size or just a tad smaller. Additionally, all of the zones are packed with tons of content and interesting things to explore. You will not be let down. 

 

Oh I'm not let down, that's part of the problem lol. In hushed whispers secured DA:I as my second favourite game of all time, with DA:O in the top spot. In your heart shall burn however, has made it my all-time favorite. While quality is definitely the priority over quantity, quantity is most certainly a bonus, so it's great news to hear there is so much more yet :-D

[Allan Schumacher]

I think that this was actually calculated internally in some way, so I don't think it's actually a lie.  There may be some fudging in that I think it looked at walkable locations which will cull more of the levels from DAO.

[Silcron]

I think it wasn't refering to specific maps, but rather if you put all DAO areas together and all of DAI's the latter sum is bigger.

[ronniecross2]

Likely. Though I'm still not certain that 'every' map in inquisition can house the entire area of origins. For example, I imagine if you combined the walkable area of Ostagar, the frostback mountains and the brescillian forest without much thought for the other areas of the DAO map, then it wouldn't come close to the size of origins. Others here have mentioned though, the maps later in the game will come close to the size of the hinterlands though :-) Please don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining - I also happen to firmly believe Bioware's statement that "The entire region from Dragon Age Origins will fit into a single level of Inquisition", I was just in severe doubt of the way journalism has paraphrased this into "Each Level Is As Big As Dragon Age Origins". 

[Silcron]

Yeah, probably something like that happened. Sadly it seems much of games journalism are amateurs who made their hobby their job, and haven't learnt to do anything but sensationalist journalism (clikbait if you will).

[Majestic Jazz]

So the Hinterlands is the largest map in DAI? Well that sucks because I was getting all excited assuming that if the INTRO map to the land can be this big, just imagine how the later maps will be. However it seems like we started off with a bang in regards to the Hinterlands only to have later maps be much smaller.

 

Hopefully as I explore the game more (only 20 hours in and haven't gotten skyhold yet), perhaps other maps are equally large or larger than the Hinterlands.

[MagisterMaximus]

So the Hinterlands is the largest map in DAI? Well that sucks because I was getting all excited assuming that if the INTRO map to the land can be this big, just imagine how the later maps will be. However it seems like we started off with a bang in regards to the Hinterlands only to have later maps be much smaller.

 

Hopefully as I explore the game more (only 20 hours in and haven't gotten skyhold yet), perhaps other maps are equally large or larger than the Hinterlands.

I've heard many say there are maps the same size as the Hinterlands or a tad smaller. Then there are just smaller maps.

[Majestic Jazz]

I've heard many say there are maps the same size as the Hinterlands or a tad smaller. Then there are just smaller maps.

 

I just think it is weird to have the starting map be the largest, giving the impression that all if not most of the maps would be of similar sizes, only to have a reduction in map size for later maps.

 

You would think the intro map would be the smallest with the larger and largest maps being the higher level ones.

[Lebanese Dude]

You would think the intro map would be the smallest with the larger and largest maps being the higher level ones.

 

Pre-Cataclysm Barrens says hi.

[MagisterMaximus]

I just think it is weird to have the starting map be the largest, giving the impression that all if not most of the maps would be of similar sizes, only to have a reduction in map size for later maps.

 

You would think the intro map would be the smallest with the larger and largest maps being the higher level ones.

Though I can't confirm, as I don't have that many open at the moment, many say that a good portion of them are the same size though.

[Majestic Jazz]

 

Pre-Cataclysm Barrens says hi. 

 

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Though I can't confirm, as I don't have that many open at the moment, many say that a good portion of them are the same size though.

 

We shall see. The Hinterlands has a lot of content for an intro map and from my perspective, has set the standard to what I should expect in later maps. It would be a letdown if a majority of later maps were smaller than Hinterlands after Hinterlands setting the bar.

[Yograin]

Emerald Graves seems huge definitely comparable with Hinterlands.

[Lebanese Dude]

 

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Woops. Under the false assumption that every gamer has played WoW.

Basically it's this huge zone in vanilla WoW for level 10-20s. It was the biggest zone in the game.

 

For a familiar example, DAO's largest zone was the Korcari Wilds which was at the early stage of the game too.

[Brovikk Rasputin]

Just made it to the Hissing Wastes and yeah... don't worry OP. You won't be able to move very far because of some pretty high level bandit dudes, but that place sure is big. Plenty of space to discover.

[AshesEleven]

 

 

For a familiar example, DAO's largest zone was the Korcari Wilds which was at the early stage of the game too.

 

Was it?  Not the Deep Roads?  Or I guess we don't count all the little zones together

 

Damn I remember the Korcari Wilds...the environments have come a long way.  

[Spankatola]

For me, it wasn't even so much the size, as the design.  The landscape itself is so densely packed with things to discover, and pick up, and pathways are not always obvious, but once you find them, they are easy to use (unlike the task of climbing to high ground in Skyrim).  Ravines, rock-cuts, knolls, creekbeds, thatches of forest, they all have so much detail.  I remember the first time I saw the Storm Coast, and noticed how runoff from the mountains had formed little grooves in the rocky shore.  Little details like that blew my mind, and made me want to just sit there for a while and soak it all in.

 

Draw me a map, would you? I have a hell of a time getting around in the maps. Good thing they're so nice to look at.

[MagisterMaximus]

Was it?  Not the Deep Roads?  Or I guess we don't count all the little zones together

 

Damn I remember the Korcari Wilds...the environments have come a long way.  

Could have been, but being surrounded by rock tended to make it feel small.