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[glosoli]

Sera is the poorest design so far. I don't hate her though, I hate how poorly executed the idea of a shady char's help to a certain cause.

[Rifneno]

Isn't this comparison a bit much? She supports reform, she admits that some circles (like Kirkwall) were awful. She points out the incredibly true fact that most were not and that many were very lenient including her own. She points out the other incredibly true fact that the rebellion had no chance of success and was just gonna get a bunch of mages killed. She's not ranting about mages being murderers she is ranting about what the actions of the rebels made them and all mages look like. 
 
I don't completely agree with her but your comparison is just an attempt at dismissing her views with an inflammatory comparison.

No, I think it's spot on. She literally says that mages supporting leaving the Chantry were "supporting mass murder" in her first conversation at Skyhold. Then she goes on to whine about how her side lost a vote and the other side got their way. I'll try that next election if my guy doesn't win. "Just because you won by a slim margin doesn't mean you get to be president!" YES IT DOES, VIVIENNE.

I never understood the phrase "check your privilege" until I met that incredibly privileged piece of trash. She deserves to be in the place of mages getting beaten, raped, or made tranquil over nothing before she gets to pass judgment on the ones that do.

[Gustave Flowbert]

I'm in the boring camp where I absolutely loved every character, heh! A lot of them didn't like my first Inquisitor (and will surely butt head with subsequent characters) but I love the story arcs and the progression.

 

I do wish the Blackwall romance had more "forgiveness is required" interactions after the big reveal since my Cadash forgave him and made it work but I feel like I needed to headcanon some scenes where they talked more about the lie and how he left.

 

Can I say I hate that Blackwall didn't get any nudity? I hate that, ha!

[fizzypop]

Isn't this comparison a bit much? She supports reform, she admits that some circles (like Kirkwall) were awful. She points out the incredibly true fact that most were not and that many were very lenient including her own. She points out the other incredibly true fact that the rebellion had no chance of success and was just gonna get a bunch of mages killed. She's not ranting about mages being murderers she is ranting about what the actions of the rebels made them and all mages look like. 

 

I don't completely agree with her but your comparison is just an attempt at dismissing her views with an inflammatory comparison. 

The problem is no matter how good imprisonment is, it is still prison. I do think she goes overboard. No mage speaks for all mages, the only people who think that are people who aren't smart. Otherwise the DA universe basically all races are evil people because at least each race has had ONE person do evil things. So just because SOME mages do bad things doesn't mean you can apply that to all. I get that she thinks people shouldn't think like that, but she herself is buying into it instead of saying "No that's not true". What with her "loyal mages" talk. She might not care about being free, but some do. Not all are evil mages, case in point the quizzy, warden, and hawke. Three mages all saved people, the world, and none came to demons.

[synnerman]

For me its First Enchanter Vivienne. Im a female human mage and she treats me like her child. WTF?

 

Does anyone actually like Vivienne?

I do. I just still do my own thing. I allied with the mages, and then told her Mages should be in the Chantry. Cleared up that little speed bump immediately. She is a political animal who likes order. I get to decide the order.

[Lianaar]

Vivien. The character is great, well written. My present character hates her for picking on Blackwall for no reason whatsoever.

Sera is also very alien to my present character, so I dislike her. But I can imagine someone liking her a lot.

 

I do not think any of the characters is badly written, so oocly I don't hate anyone. I am not sure I'll be able to create personalities to warm up to all of the companions though.

[Bleachrude]

And here we go again...

 

 

Strange how the entire problem with the breach was CAUSED by magic. Seriously, why do pro-mage people CONSTANTLY ignore the fact that the games explicitly tell you that each circle is different and that each circle had different levels of leniency. In DAO, we meet MULTIPLE mages that leave the circle and go about their business (Finn, Wynne, the Senior Enchanter and apprentices)

 

But apparently we must generalize all circles to be Kirkwall...yet somehow all mages aren't generalized to be Tevinter mages?

[Rifneno]

And here we go again...
 
 
Strange how the entire problem with the breach was CAUSED by magic. Seriously, why do pro-mage people CONSTANTLY ignore the fact that the games explicitly tell you that each circle is different and that each circle had different levels of leniency. In DAO, we meet MULTIPLE mages that leave the circle and go about their business (Finn, Wynne, the Senior Enchanter and apprentices)
 
But apparently we must generalize all circles to be Kirkwall...yet somehow all mages aren't generalized to be Tevinter mages?

TIL imprisonment is okay if you treat a few of the concentration camps okay.

[perfect_victime]

Is that Cockney that Sara uses. My poor American ears can't always catch what she is saying and I have to try and read it. Other than not understanding what she is saying at times I like her. Unfortunately I am a Varric fan so when I need a range rogue I use him. Vivienne is my least favored but its not that I don't like her

[David Gaider]

I love Cole and couldn't believe how well he developed in Weekes' hands (sorry, Gaider, I still love you, though).

 

I am perfectly fine with people liking what Patrick did with Cole, even moreso than what I did with him.

 

I wouldn't have let Patrick write him, after all, if I didn't think he could do Cole justice. He obviously can and did, in my opinion.

[Fabiano79]

I really like the ones with strong personality; Sera, Iron Bull, Vivienne..

 

Blackwall is kind of meh.

 

I just cant stand Dorian, only companion that I will probably never use. 

[GreyLycanTrope]

Can't say anyone rubber me the wrong way this time around, no.

[Eterna]

I don't like Sera, her motivation for being around makes zero sense, she's ugly and her personality is crap. 

[Gamyu]

Loved everyone until I did the Adamant mission and talk to Vivienne, where she talks about how Grey Wardens are useless and relic of the past. Now I hate her. I'm fine with all her views on everything else though. Also dislike how Grey Wardens are portrayed in DAI, but that is another topic.

[Roninbarista]

I found Sera a bit off, but decided to bond with her via pranks, and that was actually fun. Sera is a hot mess to me. I find her odd, yet interesting. 

[berrieh]

 

I do think she goes overboard. No mage speaks for all mages, the only people who think that are people who aren't smart.

 

Vivienne basically says she can't speak for all mages, and she's upset that the rebels tried to do so (and in a way she heartily disagreed with). So this is actually one of her points, if you listen to her. Unlike Vivienne, Fiona *does* try to speak for all mages. This is where she falls short, in my view. It's also where the rebellion falls short. Many mages are loyalist, and they want the Circles. Should they not have them? 

 

Now, I think Vivienne is out for her own power more than anything else (and I'm fine with that - she's very honest about her ambitions) but that her views are still sincere. Still, she's the ONLY mage who has opinions of the mage rebellion who outright says she has no right to truly speak for every mage and points out how different the experiences in different places are. 

 

But I guess the view you have before the game determines how you view what she says (I sided with the rebel mages and made them allies first, for what it's worth, and I'm very sympathetic to non-violent apostates). I just think it's worth pointing out that she basically SAYS she cannot speak for every mage when you ask her about "life in the Circle" for instance. She basically acts like you asked a stupid question. 

[Vertrix]

I hate Sera. I just....hate her.

[KaiserShep]

Loved everyone until I did the Adamant mission and talk to Vivienne, where she talks about how Grey Wardens are useless and relic of the past. Now I hate her. I'm fine with all her views on everything else though. Also dislike how Grey Wardens are portrayed in DAI, but that is another topic.

That's pretty odd of her to think, considering the Hero of Ferelden and the fact that both darkspawn and old gods still exist. When archdemons are not a concern anymore then sure, but no one will be really certain for hundreds of years if not more.

[YTMND]

I think Vivienne Sera or Dorian. All of them have some ups and downs,

 

Vivienne is a bit of a ding bag.. Kinda Bourgeois.. But her intentions are acceptable.

 

Sera..  felt like a chaotic-good character. Ya know? The very type of character who can easily dismantle a D&D session by bringing up the grey area in alignments. Formidable, interesting.. Yes. But some times too extreme.

 

Dorian.. was ok. But too much daddy issues. 

 

.  I think there aren't any 'BAD' characters in Inquisition. But can definitely see people considering one of those three as least acceptable.

[godModeAlpha]

I liked everyone. Some of them can be jerks if your character doesn't agree with them but on the whole they are all interesting, relatable and mostly not insane. 

 

Same here. Sera and Dorian crack me up just like Varric did in DA2. I'm liking them all