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[Malanek]

 

There really aren't any "assumptions" here. BioWare has confirmed the main protagonist has something to do with N7, and considering every concept art and in-game image we have seen of the protagonist has been in N7 armor (only N7 operatives wear the armor), there's not a lot of assuming to do here. BioWare did mention a while ago that they were considering other species but nothing was locked down. I suppose there is a small chance that could still happen, but humans are obviously locked in for certain. If BioWare were to try and do different species (which I explained above not being practical), then I'd be under the impression they would have different origins like DAI. The human would obviously be tied to the N7 Program.

"In the year 2025 the Supreme Court ruled that non-human discrimination for consideration into the ICT program, was now illegal for system alliance residents. Although initial non-human applicants have been limited to Turian and Asari, other species now equate to almost 1% of the population. Admiral Smith said that further racial diversification in our military was inevitable and only a matter of time."

 

Until something is confirmed it is an assumption. When we are presented with concept art, all it is is concept art. Even if you draw the correct conclusion from what has been presented, things can still change. I said it is likely and logical given what has been presented. It isn't cast in stone though.

[goishen]

Well, the entire concept of N7 kind'a got watered down with the N7 Spec Ops teams of ME3.  This is the reason why I truthfully believe that N7 has to let alien members into it.  Either that or they're gonna have to do some back peddling there, but not too far.  It does say in the codex that the N7 Spec Ops teams aren't officially part of the Alliance, they're just letting them go with the name. 

 

My theory? 

 

We're on a ship capable of housing billions, built by the asari for just such a purpose.  I mean, hell, look at the Destiny Ascension?  This is what is known the Ark.  The Ark holds every species that we could find.  We're sent out during the reaper war, reaper war ends, destroying each Nav beacon.  Life on board the ship --  We have some that have joined the N7 (or rather 1-7) program for when we run into new species.  When all of a sudden we come across a solar system that is seemingly devoid of life until we discover a working mass relay, leading us into a whole other universe (in our own universe).  We meet new creatures, etc. 

 

I think that'd be pretty reasonable.

[Revan Reborn]

"In the year 2025 the Supreme Court ruled that non-human discrimination for consideration into the ICT program, was now illegal for system alliance residents. Although initial non-human applicants have been limited to Turian and Asari, other species now equate to almost 1% of the population. Admiral Smith said that further racial diversification in our military was inevitable and only a matter of time."

 

Until something is confirmed it is an assumption. When we are presented with concept art, all it is is concept art. Even if you draw the correct conclusion from what has been presented, things can still change. I said it is likely and logical given what has been presented. It isn't cast in stone though.

Considering we have never seen non-human N7, this is hardly relevant to the topic or the game. Codex/Lore will always take a back seat to what is practical from a gameplay standpoint. An assumption denotes a state of mind where one takes a large leap in rationale in order to try and make a connection to something else. None of those in-game images are assumptions. Direct quotes from developers are not assumptions. I am merely compiling all the current information about the game and putting it together. It's rather plain based on the trend that a human, N7 operative is more than likely going to be the protagonist. This isn't an assumption as I didn't fabricate any of this evidence. It speaks for itself.

 

Well, the entire concept of N7 kind'a got watered down with the N7 Spec Ops teams of ME3.  This is the reason why I truthfully believe that N7 has to let alien members into it.  Either that or they're gonna have to do some back peddling there, but not too far.  It does say in the codex that the N7 Spec Ops teams aren't officially part of the Alliance, they're just letting them go with the name. 

 

My theory? 

 

We're on a ship capable of housing billions, built by the asari for just such a purpose.  I mean, hell, look at the Destiny Ascension?  This is what is known the Ark.  The Ark holds every species that we could find.  We're sent out during the reaper war, reaper war ends, destroying each Nav beacon.  Life on board the ship --  We have some that have joined the N7 (or rather 1-7) program for when we run into new species.  When all of a sudden we come across a solar system that is seemingly devoid of life until we discover a working mass relay, leading us into a whole other universe (in our own universe).  We meet new creatures, etc. 

 

I think that'd be pretty reasonable.

I don't see the Ark theory being remotely practical or likely to happen. It was created as a means of avoiding the "terrible" endings of ME3 without resolving anything that happened in the original trilogy. We already know it's very likely we will see some familiar faces (probably Liara, Samara, Wrex, or Grunt) and we will be seeing a new sector of space (more than likely in the Milky Way). We also know that our choices from the original trilogy will be somewhat reflected in the next Mass Effect, making this theory all but obsolete.

[SwobyJ]

I think we may be able to decide what N7 means to us.

 

ME2 itself had 'N7' missions, after all. And yeah, that was ME2.

[Revan Reborn]

I think we may be able to decide what N7 means to us.

 

ME2 itself had 'N7' missions, after all. And yeah, that was ME2.

What exactly do you mean? In ME1, 2, and 3 there were technically "N7 missions," but it was little more than a name and nothing else. There was no significance to the missions and they certainly didn't give you any sort of perks or benefits for being an N7 Operative. I'm expecting, based off of all the information we have so far, that there is going to be a system in place, similar to the Inquisition, for the N7 Program. A large portion of the game is probably going to be built around this infrastructure and our rise through the ranks as we progress through the game and become a legend. This is merely my speculation on how the N7 will be incorporated, but I'm under the impression it will be much more involved this time around.

[Nitrocuban]

Ha ha ha. Do you actually have anything to add to the discussion and what you would like to see done with the N7 in the next Mass Effect?

To be honest, no, but with at least 1-2 years till ME4 is released and literally no newas about it I'd say that's ok.

:3

[StealthGamer92]

I posted this before but was on the wrong thread- I keep hearing "something to do with N7" used but it seems extremely vague to me. If a PMC is hired to assist in an N7 op don't they have something to do with N7? Or in a joint N7-(insert alien species here) doesn't that species have something to do with N7? Or if an N7 officer rescues a civillian but is mortally wounded wouldn't that explain the armor and them haveing something to do with N7?

 

All I'm saying is I think the panel purposefully used that extremely vague statement for the possible abbove instances that it could mean.

[Revan Reborn]

To be honest, no, but with at least 1-2 years till ME4 is released and literally no newas about it I'd say that's ok.

:3

We have plenty of news, many just don't realize it. You'd be surprised how much BioWare has told us about the game just from E3, Comicon, and N7 Day alone. On this first page I've provided in-game evidence that the player will almost assuredly be an N7 Operative. My question is if this happens to be true in the next Mass Effect, what would you want an N7 Operative to consist of? What perks? What duties? What tools? What armor and weapons? What is your ideal evolution of the N7 experience in next gen?

 

I posted this before but was on the wrong thread- I keep hearing "something to do with N7" used but it seems extremely vague to me. If a PMC is hired to assist in an N7 op don't they have something to do with N7? Or in a joint N7-(insert alien species here) doesn't that species have something to do with N7? Or if an N7 officer rescues a civillian but is mortally wounded wouldn't that explain the armor and them haveing something to do with N7?

 

All I'm saying is I think the panel purposefully used that extremely vague statement for the possible abbove instances that it could mean.

It is vague because BioWare hasn't entirely locked everything down yet. They are giving themselves an exit strategy in case things change, but it's very likely from what we've seen that we will be an N7 Operative. Just look at the concept art, the in-game renders, the return of the Mako (a Systems Alliance vehicle), and how the main protagonist has been contrasted with Shepard. We know he/she won't start out as a legend, but will become one through the game and will have the "skills and tools" to be one. We are most definitely a marine. We are more than likely an N7 Operative, or at least we will become one over the course of the game.

[Malanek]

Considering we have never seen non-human N7, this is hardly relevant to the topic or the game. Codex/Lore will always take a back seat to what is practical from a gameplay standpoint. An assumption denotes a state of mind where one takes a large leap in rationale in order to try and make a connection to something else. None of those in-game images are assumptions. Direct quotes from developers are not assumptions. I am merely compiling all the current information about the game and putting it together. It's rather plain based on the trend that a human, N7 operative is more than likely going to be the protagonist. This isn't an assumption as I didn't fabricate any of this evidence. It speaks for itself.

 

That wasn't a codex entry or anything. I just made up a scenario (which I believe is feasible) to explain how different races could become N7 operatives in the future.

[Revan Reborn]

That wasn't a codex entry or anything. I just made up a scenario (which I believe is feasible) to explain how different races could become N7 operatives in the future.

I thought that was suspicious... Again, the major hurdle for other species being playable is animation limitations (elcor, hanar, volus), lack of conveying emotions (turians, quarians, vorcha) only having one gender (asari), and not being able to do romance scenes (salarian, batarian, krogan). It's purely a practical matter. That is why it is likely the main protagonist will only be human and probably a member of the N7 Program as well.

[SwobyJ]

What exactly do you mean? In ME1, 2, and 3 there were technically "N7 missions," but it was little more than a name and nothing else. There was no significance to the missions and they certainly didn't give you any sort of perks or benefits for being an N7 Operative. I'm expecting, based off of all the information we have so far, that there is going to be a system in place, similar to the Inquisition, for the N7 Program. A large portion of the game is probably going to be built around this infrastructure and our rise through the ranks as we progress through the game and become a legend. This is merely my speculation on how the N7 will be incorporated, but I'm under the impression it will be much more involved this time around.

 

I'm saying that you'll be able to determine what N7 means to you.

 

ME2 is a much smaller version of that, where you have to decide whether N7 means just Shepard himself, being a leader of a dirty dozen against the Collectors, or instead Shepard's attachment to the Alliance despite what is happening to him.

And in ME3 N7 either meant a human Alliance elite group, or a galactic 'Alliance' of special forces.

 

In ME4 I expect N7 to be even more important, but this time as a core narrative symbol, and guidepost to how decisions are implemented.

 

While some would think that N7 strictly means a military designation, there are alternative views that the story gradually encourages. This is due to Shepard.

[spinachdiaper]

I am hoping that the next ME takes place a long, long time after ME3 and the whole N7 thing gets turned into a secretive organization similar to the Blades from TES

[Nitrocuban]

I am hoping that the next ME takes place a long, long time after ME3 and the whole N7 thing gets turned into a secretive organization similar to the Blades from TES

Must be somehow in between First Contact War and ME3. A very tight timeframe to make 3 more games in it. And very predictable and small scale cause we all know how it ended and how irrelevant it all was compared to the Reapers.

[Revan Reborn]

I'm saying that you'll be able to determine what N7 means to you.

 

ME2 is a much smaller version of that, where you have to decide whether N7 means just Shepard himself, being a leader of a dirty dozen against the Collectors, or instead Shepard's attachment to the Alliance despite what is happening to him.

And in ME3 N7 either meant a human Alliance elite group, or a galactic 'Alliance' of special forces.

 

In ME4 I expect N7 to be even more important, but this time as a core narrative symbol, and guidepost to how decisions are implemented.

 

While some would think that N7 strictly means a military designation, there are alternative views that the story gradually encourages. This is due to Shepard.

I doubt it. Shepard was an exception, not the rule. He was above the N7 Program and a Spectre, so his experiences are not really conducive of what an N7 Operative does.

 

On the contrary, I believe the next Mass Effect will be much more grounded, and we'll have a main protagonist who is compelled to follow authority and its orders. Shepard never had to because he was a Spectre, a Cerberus agent, and then a politician. He rarely played the role of a soldier, even less an N7.

 

I believe it's very possible we'll get a much more military experience this time around, and that's partially because the leader writer came from Halo 4. He knows all about science fiction military tales, so he'd be more than suited for the job.

 

I am hoping that the next ME takes place a long, long time after ME3 and the whole N7 thing gets turned into a secretive organization similar to the Blades from TES

I think the next ME will certainly be after the original trilogy, but probably not too long. It has been confirmed we will likely see familiar faces. As far as being a secret organization, we already had Cerberus. I'd rather we actually just get the definitive military experience this time personally.

 

Must be somehow in between First Contact War and ME3. A very tight timeframe to make 3 more games in it. And very predictable and small scale cause we all know how it ended and how irrelevant it all was compared to the Reapers.

Where did you come up with this? Based on the concept art, the new Mako, and the new N7 armor alone, I'd say it's almost guaranteed this is post ME3. BioWare would only be limiting themselves by creating such a small window for them to build a story. Much better for them to not be hindered by the past and go forward.

[von uber]

N7 means nothing to me apart from a logo on a breast plate.

[Revan Reborn]

N7 means nothing to me apart from a logo on a breast plate.

That's really the problem. The N7 emblem in a lot of ways is just as iconic as Shepard and the Normandy are to Mass Effect, yet we barely know anything about it. Heck, even the Mass Effect day is called "N7 Day." I have a feeling BioWare is going to rectify that with the next Mass Effect and it will play a crucial role in the game and the story.

[SaulTighsEyePatch]

What I would like to see are missions that break up the same old run and gun gameplay from ME2 and 3. The N7 codex entries talk about things like how they're trained to fight in all sorts of cool environments, with stuff like scuba diving, zero-g combat, jetpack flight, HALO jumps, etc. How about you actually put those in a game, Bioware?? It would go a long way towards breaking up the monotonous gameplay of running through linear corridors shooting at everything that moves. Having missions where you perform an under water insertion onto a beach, securing it, then continuing the mission on land or blasting through an enemy ship, then getting out and maneuver around zero g in space would be awesome. 

 

In addition to that, it would be nice to see whole other teams of N7. It was always strange to me that you always the only N7 running around. I think there was one mission where you did meet another N7 (on that one multiplayer map?), but I don't think she even had the designation on her armor. 

[JeffZero]

More on N7 can only be a good thing. The lore is there, but the execution isn't. When I think "N7", I think the following, in the following order:

 

1. Commander Shepard.

2. Kai Leng was an N6, right?

3. Is it N7 Day again yet?

 

Everything else -- what little we've seen, what little I've read in the tie-in novels, all the stuff Saul Tigh's infamous eye patch up there just brought up -- it comes to me only after long moments of thought, because we just don't see any of it, ever.

[GalacticWolf5]

2. Kai Leng was an N6, right?

 

No, he was an N7.

[L. Han]

N7 is more or less comparable to the US armed forces' ranger tab or any country's navy SEAL trident/anchor. It's more of an honor, a recognition for skill and valor.

 

Earning that Ranger tab (or SEAL trident) would mean attending the schools and passing them. To actually be one, they must join the respective regiments and serve long enough. Judging from Mass Effect's N7 program, it is fairly close to special forces we have today.

[Revan Reborn]

What I would like to see are missions that break up the same old run and gun gameplay from ME2 and 3. The N7 codex entries talk about things like how they're trained to fight in all sorts of cool environments, with stuff like scuba diving, zero-g combat, jetpack flight, HALO jumps, etc. How about you actually put those in a game, Bioware?? It would go a long way towards breaking up the monotonous gameplay of running through linear corridors shooting at everything that moves. Having missions where you perform an under water insertion onto a beach, securing it, then continuing the mission on land or blasting through an enemy ship, then getting out and maneuver around zero g in space would be awesome. 

 

In addition to that, it would be nice to see whole other teams of N7. It was always strange to me that you always the only N7 running around. I think there was one mission where you did meet another N7 (on that one multiplayer map?), but I don't think she even had the designation on her armor. 

I fully support this. Yep, I know the mission you are referring to. You only learn she was N7 because of a mail you receive after the mission. There was no designation at all for what she was. Honestly she was just a damsel in distress as you had to send a companion to help defend her during the mission.

 

More on N7 can only be a good thing. The lore is there, but the execution isn't. When I think "N7", I think the following, in the following order:

 

1. Commander Shepard.

2. Kai Leng was an N6, right?

3. Is it N7 Day again yet?

 

Everything else -- what little we've seen, what little I've read in the tie-in novels, all the stuff Saul Tigh's infamous eye patch up there just brought up -- it comes to me only after long moments of thought, because we just don't see any of it, ever.

Yep. It's sad had very little attention N7 has received so far when the emblem is so pronounced and well-known. Very strange.

 

No, he was an N7.

I believe he received the N7 commendation, but shortly thereafter received a court martial and was kicked out due to his unorthodox methods.

[JeffZero]

Oh, he made N7 after all.

Well, congrats then, Kai. Sorry about the killing you.

[Revan Reborn]

Oh, he made N7 after all.

Well, congrats then, Kai. Sorry about the killing you.

Yeah his N7 status was mentioned in a brief mail in ME3, as was most things. It honesty doesn't mean anything to me as there was never a consistent group of characters that were all involved and Shepard wasn't a standard model for the N7 since he had the ultimate character shield. Hopefully that will be rectified with the next Mass Effect and we actually see this prestigious organization in action.

[Vazgen]

James became N7 too. 

[Malanek]

James became N7 too. 

You sure? Wasn't that conversation in ME3 all about him being accepted for N7 training and deciding whether to accept? As far as I am aware it was unclear whether he had been in the N-series training program at all. I don't think he was N7.