@Rifneo: She's programmed to mock the Inquisitor, who's just learned that
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It really is abominable behavior, especially coming from one of your "friends".
Wow.
That's amazing. That tops Morrigan's disapproval for not sacrificing the CE's father for some constitution in DAO.
Wait, how does that explain the anti-elf or anti-vallaslin things?
I felt this bit shed some light on the underlying ideas that motivate her behavior:
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So if someone lies to avoid disappointing you, that makes them a prideful '******'? Right...
Though I guess this also demonstrates Sera's complete failure to see any kind of bigger picture.
Wasn't specifically directed that, though I don't think she's so much anti-elf as against the idea that there's anything special about being an elf, and rejecting the expectation that she must feel some sort of solidarity over it. It has very little relevance to who she is, but people keep trying to lump her into categories because of it, which she thinks is stupid.Wait, how does that explain the anti-elf or anti-vallaslin things?
Read more carefully, Sera isn't angry that she lied, she's angry because she taught Sera to hate someone to cover up her lie.So if someone lies to avoid disappointing you, that makes them a prideful '******'? Right...
Though I guess this also demonstrates Sera's complete failure to see any kind of bigger picture.
It's apparent that a lot of players do or don't like her, but how do the rest of the companions react to her? Just saying, if literally nobody in the organization likes her, is she really worth keeping around for a few eccentric ideas?
Wasn't specifically directed that, though I don't think she's so much anti-elf as against the idea that there's anything special about being an elf, and rejecting the expectation that she must feel some sort of solidarity over it. It has very little relevance to who she is, but people keep trying to lump her into categories because of it, which she thinks is stupid.
All well and good when it's only herself. When she starts worrying about me being too elfy, disapproving of my saying that I want to set a good example for elvenkind, and then the Mythal and vallaslin things, it's clearly become more than that.
If Sera's arc proves anything, it's that the little people can be just as nasty as the big ones.
For some reason, vallaslin keeps being pronounced as vasaline in my head.
All well and good when it's only herself. When she starts worrying about me being too elfy, disapproving of my saying that I want to set a good example for elvenkind, and then the Mythal and vallaslin things, it's clearly become more than that.
If Sera's arc proves anything, it's that the little people can be just as nasty as the big ones.
I justbecame friends with her, and i'm a Dalishy elfy elf.. its a tough game
@Kim: Cass and IB like her. So does Varric, but Varric likes everyone. Everyone else either hates her, or is hated by her.
@Kim: Cass and IB like her. So does Varric, but Varric likes everyone. Everyone else either hates her, or is hated by her.
BlackWall seems indifferent, and Blackwall and Sera have great fun banter
No doubt, it's one of the things I like about her, helps keep perspective when an example of what most common people in Thedas are actually like is on the team instead of everyone being the most respectable and open minded.All well and good when it's only herself. When she starts worrying about me being too elfy, disapproving of my saying that I want to set a good example for elvenkind, and then the Mythal and vallaslin things, it's clearly become more than that.
If Sera's arc proves anything, it's that the little people can be just as nasty as the big ones.
Her accent is all over the place. I think they were aiming for cockney but ended up with Essex Girl mixed with chav, and as someone pointed out a touch of Brummie as well.
In fact her default attire should have been Burberry.
IMO, she is sometimes funny but ultimately this crazy chick just ain't cool.
It's a Derbyshire accent.
I love sera, she's funny a devout Andrastian who dislike the chantry and a Hypocrite 
She also has no fear of the big bads (aside from the nightmare demon)
I wouldn't go so far as call her a b!tch.
I would call her the worst character ever created in the history of video games.
An absolute disaster on every level - from conception, writing, design and acting. Abysmal.
Love her or hate her, her writer succeeded; that is to say, she has the desired effect. The game goes to lengths to validate her presentation, with either dialogue options like "start making sense", or the bard's song that says rather clearly she enrages some folks.
Sera being a waste of space in my roster that I literally never want to use again is a success? That's a valuable roster spot that could be filled with a character that actually deserves to be there.
Wait, was she making fun of her in general or for what happened in that scene? i.e. was it random dialogue at a poor time or was she actually programmed to mock her for that? Because if the latter, Sera's just a complete piece of ****. There's no excuse for that. That is utterly reprehensible.
Does anything bad happens if you do not recruit Sera or Vivienne into the Inquisition ?
@Rifneo: She's programmed to mock the Inquisitor, who's just learned that
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It really is abominable behavior, especially coming from one of your "friends".
Jesus.
I don't always agree with what she does, but that just crosses the line.
Looks like Varric is gonna be alot more in the party during my next playthrough.
Ishten, on 27 Nov 2014 - 9:33 PM, said:Does anything bad happens if you do not recruit Sera or Vivienne into the Inquisition ?
Let's hope not, It's not like I'll ever recruit them again 
This. Alistair, in fact, is half-elf. Fiona is his mother. This was long theorized, but the way she coyly asks about him in DAI all-but-confirms it.
People who say "if a character evokes emotion, they're well done!" know literally nothing at all about writing. Not the tiniest shred. Any hack can write a pedophile serial killer and get them hated. I don't know how that terrible, awful piece of "wisdom" started floating around the Internet but it's one of the most ridiculous pieces of "wisdom" floating around it and that's saying a lot. Sera is the Inquisitor's ally, not a villain, she was not written with the intent that almost everyone dislikes her. Yet she's almost universally disliked outside of the "crazy feminist who thinks Elizabeth Bathory was just a strong independent woman and you're a misogynist if you hate her" demographic. Sera is a poor character and the fact that the majority of the playerbase seems to get less than no enjoyment out of her as a companion is not a positive thing.
Realism will always, and should always, take a backseat to what makes the game more enjoyable. Yes, there are people like this in real life. That doesn't mean there should be a character from every demographic. There's also pacifists out there who won't help me fight the enemy, I don't want them in my group. There's hardcore vegans who will leave the group if I do that "hunt some rams for meat for starving refugees" quest. Don't want them either.
True hatred takes the form of pure ignorance IMO. A serial killer character etc. you mentioned doesn't get any emotion from me and I simply ignore it because I know fundamentally there is nothing to see there. A failure to acknowledge at all is probably the strongest indication that there is nothing interesting or cool about a character to a person.
Generally if someone takes time and energy to actively comment on something, like this, it's because they find something going on they don't totally understand... which suggests that actually yes the character creator did a good job. I know it's the same person that created Aveline and my god she was boring and got nothing out of me, despite the claim that some people liked and some people disliked her. This kind of 'active hatred' practiced by actively engaging the thing while declaring it's just nothing and a meaningless horrible character is pretty hypocritical.
You could say the only way to prove you truly don't find anything challenging about the character is not to comment at all. The moment you enter the conversation suggests that there is something you don't grasp about the character. No one is commenting on Bathory because there is nothing not to grasp, it's just a serial killer, as you said.
I personally was only interested in DA:I for Sera basically, and so am delighted to see so many people struggling with her character. I don't know the details and whether or not she really ultimately is just a boring hum-drum serial killer, but I definitely think that she provokes such strong opinions is interesting.
I think Sera is...interesting. But she's childishly cruel and possesses a distinct lack of empathy, so I can't say I "like" her. Kudos for Bioware for creating a character that I haven't seen in one of their games before, I guess.
That vallaslin thing was ****** awful and I really wish I'd been given the option to smack her.
i just don't want to hear her say "stupid" again. On topic though when i didn't like in fact she was one of the only charters i honestly thought about making leave, but i think that makes her a great charter that my Dalish elf mage felt uncomfortable around her shows she was written well.
Nah. I like Sera. Sure, she's flawed , acts stupid when she's smarter then that, a rebel with a cause that no ones really know what it is exactly, but she a good character with a good story. She's loyal and stands by you in the end. Plus, she's funny as hell! Even when i disagree with some of their beliefs, I can always find a reason to like them ( Even Anders ) The ONLY companion out of ALL the games i don't like AT ALL is Vivienne. SHE'S a total ******. 
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