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I was planning to create lesbian character just to romance her since she seems like a fun, but after seeing this and experience Sera's personality first hand. I think I'm going to pass. She's rightfully landed on obnoxious category IMO.

 

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Agreed, Aeducan. I found Sera's character to be quite annoying. Interesting, but annoying. What I'm glad about is that you can tell her to **** off at any time. Just start a convo, tell her she doesn't fit in, and she leaves.

 

I have to work to make my Inquisitors want her around. It's difficult to make them like her. And I doubt I'll ever do a romance playthrough. Just...not interested.


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So you like a cold hearted b***h who thinks that a group of people are mass murderers for wanting to be free and everything she ever does is to secure moar power for herself ?

 

Lovely. 

Well atleast she is an amusing psycho.



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I love Sera. She's funny and she's complex. To be honest, she kind of grated on me at first, but at some point I realized I liked her despite her glaring, obvious flaws. The fact that she can't see her own hypocracy makes her interesting and it seems to me that all she is really trying to do is make sense of the chaotic world around her. 

 

She's scared and confused, but faces it with bravado and a lot of profanity.  She talks in a nonsensical fashion punctuated with moments of profound statements and observation that make you rethink your opinion of her. Is she smart or just crazy?

 

She's a real person through and through and that makes her so interesting. She is, in my opinion, the most well written (and voiced) character in the game and is my favorite companion to drag around.

 

Also, her conversations with Iron Bull are hilarious and she's sometimes reminds me of a dirty old man when talking about other women and that's just good comedy, in my opinion.


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I kind of liked her, I love her laugh. But when I watched her beat someone into a pudle of plum, that made me cringe and stare in disbelieve. It took me a bit of time to talk to her again. She dislikes my reaction severly. I did consider making a character that gets on well with her. Maybe if that particular scene is not surfacing, I can. But with that, I don't think it is possible.

 

As for her religion? She is very Andrastian. If you question her belief, she'll ****** and say you are stupid. That is very normal. I mean, doesn't almost every single real life person do that? Very few can say: "what? You think my faith is not existing and instead I should believe yours and toss mine away? Ok." She doesn't appear religious, but she is.



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She's a by the book "chaotic neutral" character, as a retired Dungeon Master i can safely say whoever wrote her did a perfect job since Chaotic Neutral is the hardest aligment to create a character with. Kudos to him/her!


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I hate multi-quote answer fests so I'll just answer simply without individually attempting to correct your each and every statement because thats pointless and I'm not here to change your mind.
 
Just about any of the companions could be accused of having a broader understanding of the world they're living in than Sera. Sera rejects anything she doesn't agree with outright as unimportant. Anything that doesn't fit her little cockeyed world view as irrelevant and anything that is of no benefit to her as useless.


So she's just like you? You can take this personally, or be offended if you like, but really, you're exhibiting the exact same behavior here that you're accusing her of. What's that really say?

However, while Varric may have a similar perspective, Cass gets slapped down for her "common people" comment in party banter. Showing that some of the companions really don't have a perspective for what it's like to be at the bottom looking up.
 

Bringing up the war table missions that give the Inquisition benefits as some kind of evidence that shes selfless is kind of funny as her own dialogue, in many situations, indicates that she doesn't give a flip what the Inquisition achieves as long as she gets her bit off the top.


So what "bit off the top" is she getting? Varric gets an amulet that gives him an additional Skill Point after just about every mission he gets done on the Table. My take on her perspective is that she wants the scary stuff done, so she can go back to what she was doing before the world went crazy. That seems very much like a perspective that's shared by everyone there.
 

She is, obviously, at her best with people that romance her, and she obviously works well for people that are willing to try, so shes written as a character that makes sense to some personalities and doesn't to others.


I agree. She's going to rub some people wrong, and for varying reasons. Some are going to see a bit too much of themselves in her, and be offended. Others are going to be totally lost trying to figure out where she's coming from. Others are going to "get her", romanced or not, because they can relate to what it's like to be outside looking in, as it were.
 

Far as the difference between people being treated fairly and my hat at the next salon, I don't get what you're referring to. Sera uses the excuse of ensuring equal treatment to benefit herself. She doesn't care about the little people any more than she cares about the big hats...she just wants to come out on top no matter what. To take an analogous example, it would be like if Anonymous took down every big bank in America and reset the credit records of everyone in the world....then after having wrecked the entire world economy, sat there attempting to tell people that it was just fine that they took a few billion dollars for themselves because at least they were helping out the 99%.


That's the problem, because that's her whole outlook on it. She's sitting there with a low end PC, trying to play the game, having people tell her that she needs to get a console, or a new gaming rig, when she'd love nothing better, but really just can't. She's almost literally the "one legged lady at the droid kicking contest", and she rebels against that. Again, show me what benefits her, directly.

The Inquisition marches some troops through town, and gains, but there's no note that says "Sera gains 200 gold". Her benefit there is that the people being trampled in the middle of the land dispute aren't being trampled any more.

The Inquisition drops some supplies, and the Inquisition profits. She brought things to the table, quite literally in this case, that she promised, servants that don't know crap about the intrigues involved, but know bad people, and she points them out. This is, after all, exactly what she promised to do, and she lives up to it.

Even the "Noble" that she kills, if you let her, is far more guilty of "wrongdoing" than she'll ever be. You believe otherwise? Then why is it that, when he realizes that people that can fight back are involved, he suddenly wants to talk? This is exactly the kind of people she guns for, and personally, no big loss there. She's not altruistic, and makes no claim to be. The recruitment dialog is rather clear about that with, roughly paraphrased, "... and someone gets paid". Here's the kicker though, there's a very real possibility that she's not the one that's getting paid.

You are correct though. There's no real point to arguing about it. I'm not going to change your perspective, and I'm certainly not going to change mine.

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Isn't the fact that it unsettled you so much a testament to the writing itself? A character doesn't have to be likeable to be a well-written character.

 

I've had one too many similar conversations like this with people I care about, from both sides. I grew up in a slightly Evangelistic family, then moved to probably the most liberal city in the United States after college. These sorts of conversations rarely go well, and someone comes out of it sounding like a total moron.

 

All I'm saying is that not every character needs to follow a laid out script of growth. I kinda like my companions unlikeable at times. Makes them (somewhat ironically in this case) human.

 

She's well written. That doesn't change that she's an insane, ignorant moron.


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She's well written. That doesn't change that she's an insane, ignorant moron.

 

Oh yes...Sera and Vivienne...Indeed all the characters in this game are well written...Some of them just happen to be written to not be liked very much...


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I'm disappointed since I really thought I was going to love Sera from everything we had learned about her, however, as soon as I met her in game she seemed like a joke character. I play a proud dalish so after a while I really wanted to punch her in the face. But she just ended up forever staying at skyhold... I should have kicked her out.

She's just immature, snotty, and yes a b*tch. While I admit she is funny sometimes, I gravitate to more serious characters, not someone I could find sticking straws up their nose and giggling like they were drunk.
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I'm disappointed since I really thought I was going to love Sera from everything we had learned about her, however, as soon as I met her in game she seemed like a joke character. I play a proud dalish so after a while I really wanted to punch her in the face. But she just ended up forever staying at skyhold... I should have kicked her out.

She's just immature, snotty, and yes a b*tch. While I admit she is funny sometimes, I gravitate to more serious characters, not someone I could find sticking straws up their nose and giggling like they were drunk.

 

Same. I am a lesbian and was really interested in the lesbian only romance. What we learned about her beforehand seemed interesting, and I always thought the Red Jenny thing was a fascinating story hook. Instead we have a rude, intentionally ignorant, insane dumb-butt who lacks an inside voice. Less likable than the guy trying to become a god and remake the world in his own image.


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Same. I am a lesbian and was really interested in the lesbian only romance. What we learned about her beforehand seemed interesting, and I always thought the Red Jenny thing was a fascinating story hook. Instead we have a rude, intentionally ignorant, insane dumb-butt who lacks an inside voice. Less likable than the guy trying to become a god and remake the world in his own image.

Maybe alittle more likable...alittle?



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The only thing I didn't really like about her character was her stance on erasing her own culture and its past. Other than that, she was a bit jarring with her robin hood kind of attitude but then again, I think that's what's implied with her characterisation.



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Honestly, I can't stand her. I sort-of liked her at her initial meeting, and I thought she offered up some interesting points.

 

But then I did her personal quest. Cringed when I watched her pretty much beat the nobleman to death, but, okay, he killed her friends. It's understandable.

 

Except she doesn't care. I asked her about it afterwards--how could she throw their lives away recklessly--and she basically snorted and got snotty with me. She didn't care that the "little people" had gotten hurt and killed because of what she did, so long as she came out on top. She threw their lives away for a simple con that benefitted her. She didn't take responsibility for her part in their deaths. And when my Inquisitor tried to at least get her to admit she was wrong, she insulted her so thoroughly I honestly had to meta-game to not kick her out on the spot.

 

Even her profile states it. She wants to save the world "so she can play". NOT to make it better for "the little people"--that's just an excuse. She wants a glorified playground where she can prank, torture and kill people she decides deserve it and then pat herself on the back after, saying she did a good thing because she fights for the downtrodden.

 

And that's just what I got from her personal quest alone. When you add in her intolerance of other beliefs, her speaking on matters she knows nothing about as though it were fact, and her not-at-all-endearing childlike attitude, you get someone who is probably my biggest hated Bioware character ever.

 

That said, it's fantastic that Bioware can make me despise someone so much. So kudos to the writing.


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I really wanted to like Sera. I really, really did but..

 

maybe it was because I was playing a dalish who romanced Solas but it seemed that every single choice I made was a disapprove/greatly disapprove from her. When Solas takes your vallaslin off  she asks you what happened and, apparently, if you tell her the sad truth, she laughs in your face. If you say "I don't want to talk about it." she gets peeved at you. I felt like she was such a hypocrite. She never wanted to tell me anything and just kept changing the subject on me but she wants me to tell her ever detail in my life so she can pick apart at it?

 

At least with Vivienne, I can see why she dissaproves of some of the choices I make and I respect her for it.

 

I'm going to try again and see if she will get honest with me but if she doesn't give me any satisfaction for trying, Imma kick her breeching tushy to the curb!


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I think she is kind of mental ....

I can't understand her way of talking .It's strange ...and she's crazy. And I wish that I could replace her. 


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I did like when she made wine out of a rotten nobleman.

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Her accent is all over the place. I think they were aiming for cockney but ended up with Essex Girl mixed with chav, and as someone pointed out a touch of Brummie as well.

 

In fact her default attire should have been Burberry.

 

IMO, she is sometimes funny but ultimately this crazy chick just ain't cool.


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I think she is a very well written character.   She doesn't have to be likable or logical for that.   That said, my initial impressions of her are actually of dislike for me personally, though I have started yet another character that might give her more of a chance.  

 

Can't speak to how her character might evolve over the game as I am hooked on starting new characters over and over at the moment.



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Came to love and adore her character far more than I expected but I can more then well enough see why she'd get on peoples nerves and really drive people insane. 



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It seems that I put a good deal of blinders on when I romanced her. It's odd how that works, to be completely honest. Though I was the same way about Merrill in DA2.

 

I do have a bit of a suspicion that she's not actually an elf though. She's a good deal taller than my inquisitor, and doesn't even like the idea of being an elf. Perhaps the event that fractured her......idunno.

 

I may have to have my main Inquisitor go for someone different this playthrough. Though I'll be going in with a bit more open of a mind in general. I love the character's humor, and the pranks were really good. Yet the closed-mindedness of the character is hard to deal with. My inquisitor's beliefs had to be put by the wayside to continue the romance. I dunno. It's just.....hard to deal with.



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I think she is kind of mental ....
I can't understand her way of talking .It's strange ...and she's crazy. And I wish that I could replace her.

Her off kilter speech pattern is actually one of my favorite things about her conversations :D
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Sera is a 5 year old girl in the body of a 20something year old woman, at least physically, I don´t know how old she really is because elves have a larger lifespam and honestly I don´t care, all I care is that my 4 year old sister is more mature than her. I just recruited her for the Trophy and for seeing and playing as much content of the game as I can (her war table missions, her personal quest, etc) but I would love a "mute" button/feature for her. Seriously, I can´t stand her, she is at Vivienne´s level of unbearable, since I got Bianca´s upgrades I haven´t even use her again in any quest and on top of that I love Solas so there are even more reasons for me to spend as less time as possible with her.


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Her off kilter speech pattern is actually one of my favorite things about her conversations :D


It's even better if you can understand it all.

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She seems kinda retarded and her talking manner, I hardly understand what she trying to say. Even orcs in Warhammer universe speaking more clearly and that says a lot. I will probably ask her to Zog off!" from inquisition .


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