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[xLawGamerx]

Man everyone here seems far more attached to Hawke than I ever did. Personally I found him to be the single most bland and forgettable protagonist in a BioWare game.

 

It was hard for me to choose simply because I felt no connection to either character. Hawke never really clicked with me and since I didn't care for DAII and never played the DLC, I had no history with Stroud. Ultimately I let Hawke stay because I was frankly really bored with that character and I was hoping Stroud would stay around and prove slightly more interesting. Hey, it was worth a shot, right?

 

The only reason I felt kind of bad afterwards was because of Varric's reaction. Then he played cards with everyone, at which point he seemed to promptly forget, along with everyone else, that Hawke ever existed. I thought that was sort of fitting for a character I found so completely bland.

[Killashandria]

I can't be the only one who feels completely gipped by this.

 

So many of you got Loghain (traitorous fool) or Stroud (I'm sorry who are you again) as your pick. Even if you romanced Alistair if you had him Kinging it up with your Warden Queen, he's totally fine. I made so many sacrifices so that my Dalish elf and Alistair got to stay together. I loved seeing both him and Hawke show up. Fight together? Awesome.

 

And now this.

 

Instead of anonymous, I don't really care if you die, Warden, I get to choose between the love of my Wardens life and Hawke (who I actually really enjoyed as a character). Thats a choice between the guy who has already told me how deliriously happy he is with my Warden (and comes with an actual note of guilt from my Warden asking for nothing to happen to him), and Hawke (10 years. I watched her alter over a 10 year period. ...Most of which was waiting around for Fenris to get his issues sorted. I mean c'mon). 

 

I mean really. It's seems a bit of an unfair toll towards people with play throughs like mine. Honestly I'd happily sacrifice some one else. I'd feel a bit of remorse if it was a character I knew buuuuuuut its a sacrifice I'd be willing to make. Instead I get forever alone Warden character or death of my Champion. 

 

Gipped.

[Killashandria]

Although I'm really hoping for a rescue DLC. Hawkes a mage so I feel she would last better in the fade, and maybe be able to send out messages calling for help... okay so I clearly need some Head Cannon to go against the painful reality. Aaaaand admittedly most of this is coming from the 'will most likely die' portion of the choice.

 

most likely...

[Undead Han]

I was conflicted, but in the end I chose Stroud. 

 

I figured the wardens would figure themselves out eventually, with or without him. Hawke, on the other hand, needs to keep Anders from blowing **** up. 

 

The same for me.

 

I was conflicted and hesitated while making the decision. Ultimately I chose to leave Stroud behind because he is a senior Warden, which means he is on borrowed time anyway. Hawke could live for another 60 years or so while at best Stroud maybe has 10. Also having a Warden sacrificing himself and being the big hero seemed appropriate given the backdrop of that mission. Also I'm not convinced that Stroud is absolutely vital to rebuilding the Wardens. After all the entire Ferelden chapter was wipied out at Ostagar, and two recruits rebuilt that just fine. Other leaders will emerge from the survivors.

[Green Wyvern]

I never had Loghain ( he is dead maybe that is why) but what is needed to have a Alistair? o.O He must be Warden yes? Ugh, I always had him as king, maybe one time I will change it.

 

Yup, like I so trully want to kill my fav character..  BDSM 1001% XD

 

Ehem, so I can't give Hawke order to sacrifice because of....... FENRIS D': I just can't make his lover to be dead and in Fade. It would so much kill him inside .. and me </3

[AlexiaRevan]

I love my hawke , so it was a no brainer . Stroud up ya go dear Warden 

[Former_Fiend]

I've been doing all my playthroughs thus far with a single world state with Loghain as the warden; I don't think I have any with Alistair as a warden, though I have one or two where it would be Stroud. I've just been too lazy to go in and change it on the keep so far.

 

But I am sure that had it been Stroud or Alistair, I honestly wouldn't have given the decision a second thought; I would have saved Hawke. The fact that it was Loghain is what makes it such a difficult decision for me. I really like Hawke, but Loghain is hands down my favorite Non-PC DA character, so it was painful making that choice.

 

Having done it twice now and gotten both epilogues and seeing there isn't a meaningful difference, I'm leaning towards switching my decision to keeping Hawke alive and letting Loghian have his heroic sacrifice that he's been waiting ten years for. The Warden subplot doesn't seem to be going in a direction that will let Loghain/Alistair/Stroud actually take over, so with that in mind, I think I'd rather have a world state where a Warden/Hawke/Inquisitor team up is still theoretically possible and where Merrill doesn't end up heartbroken.

[Milan92]

I've been doing all my playthroughs thus far with a single world state with Loghain as the warden; I don't think I have any with Alistair as a warden, though I have one or two where it would be Stroud. I've just been too lazy to go in and change it on the keep so far.

 

But I am sure that had it been Stroud or Alistair, I honestly wouldn't have given the decision a second thought; I would have saved Hawke. The fact that it was Loghain is what makes it such a difficult decision for me. I really like Hawke, but Loghain is hands down my favorite Non-PC DA character, so it was painful making that choice.

 

Having done it twice now and gotten both epilogues and seeing there isn't a meaningful difference, I'm leaning towards switching my decision to keeping Hawke alive and letting Loghian have his heroic sacrifice that he's been waiting ten years for. The Warden subplot doesn't seem to be going in a direction that will let Loghain/Alistair/Stroud actually take over, so with that in mind, I think I'd rather have a world state where a Warden/Hawke/Inquisitor team up is still theoretically possible and where Merrill doesn't end up heartbroken.

 

Still waiting for Warden/Hawke/Inquisitor to form the Justice League.

[New Kid]

First time: Stroud, no brainer really. Grey Wardens effed up, they are supposed to be about sacrifice, and, c'mon it was Stroud. I did feel bad because he saved Bethany though, which Varric kindly revealed to my Inquisitor.

Second time: Hawke, it was either Hawke or Alistair. I am only really attached to my main Hawke so it wasn't that hard, plus it was an Alistair who was in a relationship with my warden (who specifically told me not to get him killed in a letter haha). I'm still angry that he wasn't well implemented, but I wouldn't kill him for it haha.

Third time will be Loghain/Hawke, not sure what way it will go down.

[Dune01]

Even though I adore my Hawke to bits, I chose him. Why? I... don't really know. I guess that my Hawke really wanted that. He wanted to die. He isn't a hero as everyone makes him out to be. But at that moment, his moment, he felt like one. He knows that he is leaving both Merrill and Varric, but everything clicked. His time has come. He waited long enough, it's time he met Leandra, Carver and Malcolm again(I don't believe in afterlife, but my Hawke, despite being anti-Chantry, secretly does).

I hate to say that it felt right, but it did. It was a fitting end to a story of a troubled, sorrowful man.

[Former_Fiend]

Still waiting for Warden/Hawke/Inquisitor to form the Justice League.

 

I was thinking more Avengers, but yea, basically. 

[Korva]

Just did this mission today, and I let Hawke stay behind. It's a personal matter for her with Corypheus, and that is something I very much understand and respect. No, she can't take him down herself, but at least she can help strike a blow against him by saving the person who can take him down. There's a fitting end to it, I think. Not a happy end, but good closure IMO.

 

I should note that I have not played DA2, so I have no attachment whatsoever to what would have been my character but isn't. Since Loghain is dead and unmourned and good riddance, and Alistair is king, that means I got Stroud whom I never met before and thus also have no attachment to. So the choice for me had nothing to do with "whom do I want to save more" or "whom do I like better", but rather "for whom is a heroic last stand more fitting". And Hawke won that contest. The hero who lost so much dies in a final act of defiance against the forces of the evil she accidently set free -- and the weary friend whose treasured order was shamed beyond measure shoulders that shame and the grief of her death through their folly, hoping that there is something worth rebuilding. It fits.

 

So my Warden is dead, and now "my" Champion is dead too. Maybe my Inquisitor should heed Varric's early advice in Haven and leg it, before I find an option for an emotionally charged heroic sacrifice for her too.

[Teshayel]

Fortunately, I did not have to choose between Ali and Hawke. I had Stroud. And when Hawke said: "Corypheus is my responsibility." I was like, "Wut?!" Cory is the Wardens' responsibility, if anything. So, I left Stroud behind, absorbed the Wardens, and then Hawke's like: "Yeah, I'm gonna head to Wiesshaupt."

 

There's just no winning with Bioware, is it?

[nightscrawl]

I chose Hawke once... never again. I very reluctantly  hit the button and regretted it immediately afterward, and it was only made worse after talking to Varric post-Adamant mission. All of my reasons are sentimental, I admit. I like my Hawke character, and I just know that both Varric and Fenris are/will be just devastated by the loss. I knew that Varric cared about Hawke, but it took DAI for me to see just how much. I don't think it comes across as well during DA2.

 

I do like the idea of giving the Wardens a bit of redemption by letting Stroud take the sacrifice, but Hawke also made a good point in that someone needs to help rebuild the Wardens, and who better than one who was never corrupted in the first place? I could probably come up with more tactical reasons, but in the end it boils down to being a sap.

[SgtSteel91]

Chose Loghain, felt right to me. He get's to have a true Redeemer Ending, Hawke takes his first steps into becoming a true hero, and the Wardens still have the Hero of Fereldan (after he gets the Calling cured) as well as Blackwall.

 

Also this means that without leadership they have no choice but to obey the Inquisition for the time being 

[Razored1313]

In my game, loghain died sacrificing himself against the archdemon and Alistair was king, so my choices were hawke, who just sounded so done with life after losing her family and in my WS killing her lover anders while fleeing Kirkwall, and stroud, whom I have no connection wih since carver was a templar in my WS although his backstory in the codex was interesting. In the end I chose to leave with stroud, letting hawke possibly die against blinky, which seemed to be what she wanted and as others pointed out the wardens needed a good leader right now, and with as little as we know about stroud he did care about the wardens and also was the only one who wasn't crazy enough to side with the tevinter magister. Even though I exiled them as a response to hawkes death the epilogue said that stroud leads a rebellion to take control of the wardens, so I'm satisfied with my end result, stroud trying to take the wardens and hawke dying a hero.

That said, I REALLY hope they don't end up having the one in the fade survive the battle, it would just make the whole choice seem pointless to me, why should I even care who gets left behind if they make it out anyhow? I like choices like these (f it was between loghain and hawke I would have been conflicted for hours) and it really makes me care about the situation.

[Korva]

Incidentally, as ugly as it sounds, that scene in Skyhold with Varric where he talks about Hawke and you have the option to just hug him when he falters? Yeah, that cemented my "Hawke stays behind" choice. I like emotional connections and touching moments among the group, and that one was very good. Poor little guy. I'll let your friend live next playthrough. Probably.

 

(I just wish someone gave my character a how-are-you, do-you-need-a-shoulder sometime, too. Come on, Bioware.)

[Teshayel]

Incidentally, as ugly as it sounds, that scene in Skyhold with Varric where he talks about Hawke and you have the option to just hug him when he falters? Yeah, that cemented my "Hawke stays" choice. I like emotional connections, and that one was very good. Poor little guy. I'll let your friend live next playthrough. Probably.

 

(I just wish someone gave my character a how-are-you, do-you-need-a-shoulder sometime, too. Come on, Bioware.)

 

Cullen is pretty supportive if you romance him I think even Blackwall and Bull have some dialogue where they are asking how you're doing

[Korva]

I'm asexual, and while I adore many of the companions in a fierce, platonic way, the only one I could have stomached "romancing" without major squickout over the physical stuff is Cassandra ... and she's straight as an arrow, sadly.

 

Bioware games needs more mutual friendship scenes where it's not just the player playing therapist with little to no support in turn. It's one of my oldest gripes with their games.

[Former_Fiend]

Incidentally, as ugly as it sounds, that scene in Skyhold with Varric where he talks about Hawke and you have the option to just hug him when he falters? Yeah, that cemented my "Hawke stays behind" choice. I like emotional connections and touching moments among the group, and that one was very good. Poor little guy. I'll let your friend live next playthrough. Probably.

 

(I just wish someone gave my character a how-are-you, do-you-need-a-shoulder sometime, too. Come on, Bioware.)

 

On the flip side - and I don't know how it is for Alistair and Stroud, but I assume it's similar- Varric is actually rather impacted by Loghain's death. Doesn't hit him nearly as hard as Hawke's, obviously, but he's never the less saddened and reflects how Loghain fighting for the wardens during the Blight and his actions at Adamant made him a hero, in spite of all the rest.

 

Was touching.

[Otterpoet]

I went with the Greater Good and left Hawke behind... which ripped my freakin' heart out because (unlike many, it appears), I ~loved~ Hawke.  Until my Inquisitor, she was my favorite player-character of all time (and I play a stupid amount of RPGs).  I'm a heartless, old bastard, but when Varric kept asking, "Where's Hawke?" over and over I had to put the controller down for awhile.  But Hawke is a hero, and that's what she'd do.  (Besides... the Internal Writer in my head keeps repeating, 'She escaped, she escaped... I deny your reality and substitute my own.')   

[Ahalvern]

I went with the Greater Good and left Hawke behind... which ripped my freakin' heart out because (unlike many, it appears), I ~loved~ Hawke.  Until my Inquisitor, she was my favorite player-character of all time (and I play a stupid amount of RPGs).  I'm a heartless, old bastard, but when Varric kept asking, "Where's Hawke?" over and over I had to put the controller down for awhile.  But Hawke is a hero, and that's what she'd do.  (Besides... the Internal Writer in my head keeps repeating, 'She escaped, she escaped... I deny your reality and substitute my own.')   

 

Me too. Hawke is alive in my mind until proven otherwise.

[panichord]

Hawke, because I'm not losing Alistair.

 

 If Alistair was king/drunk...guess I might think about it.

 

Otherwise, let Hawke be the one great heroic sacrifice for my DA experience.

[nelly21]

My Inquisitor is a dashing and debonair rogue, but he is also very politically savvy. Since the revelation of what the Wardens were doing, he had already made up his mind that they were a threat the Inquisition couldn't suffer. Having a live Stroud (who still believed in the Wardens) would have left a strong political rival. Leaving him behind meant gaining an influential ambassador and a weakened Grey Wardens (not to mention the ability to use the old "remember Stroud" line when absorbing them).

 

The Inquisition are the protectors of Thedas. We will suffer no rivals.