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[Raven_Hawke]

I had to choose Stroud, though I didn't choose easily, but I just love Hawke so I couldn't just leave her Though I'm glad Alistair was king and I didn't have to choose between him and Hawke, that would be so painful.

[Mocksie]

In my canon playthrough, I left Hawke behind. 

 

If Hawke actually stuck around with the Inquisition after Adament, I may have made a different decision. But, to me, it doesn't make any sense that someone like Hawke would play messenger by running off the Weisshaupt when a threat like Cory (who Hawke had a personal vendetta with) still existed.  It seems like Hawke would rather stick around and be personally involved in Cory's defeat.

 

For me, it made much more sense that Hawke would stay behind and for the purpose of striking a blow against Cory because of his/her vendetta against him and the surviving warden would go to Weisshaupt. 

 

Plus, Varric's reaction to Hawke's death is much more moving then the reactions to the  Alistair/Stoud/Loghain death, even if he does "greatly disapprove"

[BraveVesperia]

How did some of you get to choose between all 3? did you change your world at "Keep" and then run through again? My first time was connected using "Keep", Hawke was gorgeous, no way she was going out and I left Stroud behind, Allstair King, Loghain dead. On 2nd play through now and reading these posts to see alternate decisions. I did NOT connect world, used generic as if never played DA before and it automatically gave me Stroud and a generic male Hawke/mage (guessing because Im warrior). Hawke will stay this time just so i can see different scenes and dialog

You can make multiple world states in the Keep, and just change which one is uploaded to DAI (within the Keep).

[Niniel]

Oh wow, up until now I didn't even realize Alistair was an option. I'm glad I made him King, because choosing between him and Hawke would have been extremely difficult. 

 

I chose Stroud to stay behind during both play throughs, simply because I couldn't care less about him.

[Qun00]

As a guy that hasn't made it that far yet and never played the previous Dragon Age games... it's an easy choice for me.

Of course I'd rather sacrifice Alistair than the hero.

[r00t8]

I always let Hawke stay.

[Shelled]

I chose stroud because I didn't really know who he was and I wasn't about to let hawke take a downfall for some side-character who I don't even know or remember. Besides, its not like the wardens need him when my warden from origins is out there somewhere. 

I'm more concerned by the grey wardens trying to summon demons in the first place. My warden would never have allowed that crap and would have stopped them. This part of this story I simply cannot understand whatsoever and feels rushed. I liked the story in this game up until this point. This just made absolutely no sense to me at all. I understand that he is trying to stop the calling which is important, but none of the wardens seemed directly mind-controlled by corypheus. It seems like it would have made more sense for the warden to stop the nonsense bs in the first place (isn't my guy supposed to be in freaking charge of the wardens in the first place? who the hell is this woman telling them what to do?) then after that, go figure out this calling crap that corypheus is doing. 

Then after all that, you have the option to exile the wardens as the inquisitor? lmfao what a joke. My warden commander would walk in there, take his rogue glove off, and slap this silly person in the head with it. Yeah let me sentence the wardens to exile, especially if another blight springs up. Sounds like a REAL GOOD idea.

Just ugh. I miss the dragon age origins director/writer. This story is almost as bad as the story in dragon age 2. Some parts of it are good but this warden part in this story for this game made no sense at all.

[Ash Wind]

I left Stroud, which was a harder choice than I thought it would be. While I wasn't all that into DA2, I liked Bethany, and he saved her with the Joining. Maybe inbetween searching for a cure to the calling, the HoF will enter the fade, beat the Nightmare to death with one of its own legs and save Stroud.

[Deebo305]

I always saved Hawke but in my latest run messed around in Keep and actually made Anora Queen and Alister a Warden. Saved Alister and let Hawke die

Hearing Hswke say "Sorry Fenris" then Varric's sadface hit home. I usually never care but I just saved Hawke for Alister

Time to reload that mess

[theflyingzamboni]

Depends on the Hawke, really. Karsa never lets others fight his battles, and he doesn't back down from any foe. Wouldn't be surprised if he sent the Nightmare packing. But if not, it was a good end for him.

Isair hasn't gone up against the Nightmare, but there's no doubt he'll make it through. Sorry Loghain. Isairs don't die in my games. He is the spider at the center of the web. The world dances on his strings, even though it doesn't know it. Kirkwall is undoubtedly swaying to the tune of him and his pirate queen already.

[warblewobble]

I'll admit I was never terribly attached to Hawke. His hero's journey was basically to work to make a bunch of money (to support his family, fair enough) and then just sort of occasionally go off to adventure and meddle in people's affairs from time to time just...because. Once Act 1 was over it didn't seem like he had any real motivation.

 

Still, I let Loghain bite the dust. It seemed like a fitting moment of redemption for a tragic character and a worthy end to his story. (No way was I going to let him sacrifice his life killing the archdemon and die a hero back in Origins but by this point I felt like he'd paid his dues.)

 

Plus, Hawke is a well-known and charismatic figure that can rally support (as the OP mentioned) whereas Loghain is a disgraced usurper who likely isn't respected even by many of the wardens- what's left of them, anyway,

[RinuCZ]

... It's fitting that he give the ultimate sacrifice, when there's no easy way outs like the Dark Ritual, and thus helping save the world from total destruction ...

Well, he can do it already in DA:O and he did so in mine . At least his person could serve as an inspiring story of redemption for the nation that way.

 

I chose Hawke, I don't know the other dude (Stroud). Hawke is a known champion and Isabela is waiting for her somewhere ;p. Stroud was just a dude who wanted to sacrifice himself and already did his share of dubious acts in Wardens. It wasn't very hard decision.

[Jolinar773]

Speaking about Hawke decision... 

 

I'm working on a fanfic (just to amuse myself) because I feel so terrible about killing Hawke... (god what have I done?! Y_Y) and I was wondering, would it be possible to enter the Fade at the exact same place once you left it?

Dorian could conjure up a rift with Alexius' amulet and the rift where Hawke died was also conjured by a mage, so it could be possible with Dorian's knowledge and perhaps some help from Cole or others involved to get back there, right?

Or do I have this all wrong?

...And yes I was thinking about mounting a search for Hawke...

[Digger1967]

Did you choose Hawke or Alistair/Loghain/Stroud?

 

I always choose Hawke for these reasons.

 

Hawke has influence, Hawke is the Champion of Kirkwall, Hawke is a symbol to rally around, Hawke is highly charismatic, and Hawke has suffered so much already. Hawke living, in my eyes, simply does more for the Inquisition than any of the Warden options and I can't stand to see Varric being so sad. Not to mention that Hawke isn't at fault for Ol'Corry escaping as Hawke didn't know anything about the madman (And Hawke even mentioned that the body was cold and dead) yet Hawke still is willing to die to fix a mistake that wasn't their own. Instead the Wardens were at fault in regards to that and it isn't fair that Hawke should have to pay the price for their sins.

 

Alistair as a Warden is a wasted potential when he could have been a King and changed the way men/women think as well enact policies that're for the betterment of all as well as lead a Nation to a brighter future. As a Warden he's merely one of many and he wasn't even a top dog in the Warden Ranks. Besides, my Grey Warden still yet lives so the Wardens have fine leadership awaiting them after Inquisition.

 

Loghain is old, very old, as well as a traitor that nearly doomed an entire nation due to his paranoia. It's fitting that he give the ultimate sacrifice, when there's no easy way outs like the Dark Ritual, and thus helping save the world from total destruction as one final redemption as well as serving as an apology for his past betrayals to his King, his Country, and the Grey Wardens (He got most of the Ferelden Grey Wardens killed and placed blame upon them for the King's death).

 

Stroud never got enough screen time or development. He's also right that a Warden SHOULD be the one to try and set things right and he realized that the Inquisitor and Hawke are much more influential and important than he is. His death also serves an example, in the darkness, on how a Warden should act thus being an inspiration to the Order as well as showing the World that Wardens are willing to even give up their lives to clean up their own messes and make things right.

 

Lets see, did I choose Spock or the ensign with no name tag in the red shirt.  Hmm..

[phaonica]

Speaking about Hawke decision... 

 

I'm working on a fanfic (just to amuse myself) because I feel so terrible about killing Hawke... (god what have I done?! Y_Y) and I was wondering, would it be possible to enter the Fade at the exact same place once you left it?

Dorian could conjure up a rift with Alexius' amulet and the rift where Hawke died was also conjured by a mage, so it could be possible with Dorian's knowledge and perhaps some help from Cole or others involved to get back there, right?

Or do I have this all wrong?

...And yes I was thinking about mounting a search for Hawke...

 

Didn't the Inquisitor open the rift that caused them to fall into the Fade in the first place? Could the Inquisitor not just open another rift near the same spot?

 

IIRC, Solas says something about having to physically travel to different places in the real world in order to find new places to enter the dream Fade if he wants to ever see new things in the dream Fade. It is possible that it works the same for the Raw Fade.

 

Apparently efforts were made in ancient times to attempt to map the dream fade, but were not successful because the dream fade kept changing. That might be true for the Raw Fade, too, but we don't know because no one has ever explored it before.

[Jolinar773]

Didn't the Inquisitor open the rift that caused them to fall into the Fade in the first place? Could the Inquisitor not just open another rift near the same spot?

 

IIRC, Solas says something about having to physically travel to different places in the real world in order to find new places to enter the dream Fade if he wants to ever see new things in the dream Fade. It is possible that it works the same for the Raw Fade.

 

Apparently efforts were made in ancient times to attempt to map the dream fade, but were not successful because the dream fade kept changing. That might be true for the Raw Fade, too, but we don't know because no one has ever explored it before

I think you're right, but the Inquisitor's never done it again afterwards and I believe it opened to a part of the Fade from which the Wardens were trying to summon that demon as a direct result of Inquisitor closing the rift right before. 

Or maybe it had something to do with the whole place where it happened?

In that case I should just go back there and try it again?

But then again as you said, Fade is changing... it might not be possible to open the Rift again unless in grave danger and even so they might end in a completely different part.

Although the Magisters of Old were trying to get to a certain place too... and if they failed, maybe it's not possible at all...

There are so many possibilities I'm not sure which one to choose

[phaonica]

I think you're right, but the Inquisitor's never done it again afterwards and I believe it opened to a part of the Fade from which the Wardens were trying to summon that demon as a direct result of Inquisitor closing the rift right before. 
Or maybe it had something to do with the whole place where it happened?
In that case I should just go back there and try it again?
But then again as you said, Fade is changing... it might not be possible to open the Rift again unless in grave danger and even so they might end in a completely different part.
Although the Magisters of Old were trying to get to a certain place too... and if they failed, maybe it's not possible at all...
There are so many possibilities I'm not sure which one to choose

Yeah, you'd also think that if the Inquisitor could just open a rift at any time to get into the fade, s/he'd be able to open one to get out, as well (as opposed to being forced to use the one that the Nightmare is guarding).

However, if the Inquisitor can open a rift whenever it is convenient for it's plot, then why not open when it's convenient for your plot?

[Jolinar773]

Yeah, you'd also think that if the Inquisitor could just open a rift at any time to get into the fade, s/he'd be able to open one to get out, as well (as opposed to being forced to use the one that the Nightmare is guarding).

However, if the Inquisitor can open a rift whenever it is convenient for it's plot, then why not open when it's convenient for your plot?

True enough  

Plus, if everything else fails, there's always Eluvian

Thanks a lot!

[Violetbliss]

I chose Hawke to remain, Stroud to stay in the Fade. It was very tough a choice though, as Stroud was still a very cool grey warden, the little we got to see him. So I hated that moment.  Reasons:

 

1. Status, likeable rogue (characterwise) which clicked with my qunari mage, as well as evident prowess.

 

2. On a player level, Hawke is my favourite protagonist so far, and I really didn't want to send her into the unknown.

 

And finally...

 

3. Adaar doesn't want a murder of pirates to come hunting her once Isabela learns she sent her girlfriend into certain (well...) death.

[phyreblade74]

It's all moot, anyway. 

 

At some point, my Stroud will come storming out of the Fade, having successfully beaten the Blight straight out of Nightmare until it reverted back to some incredibly rare Spirit of Compassion or Wisdom that knew the way out from the Fade and guided him along, and he will stand straight and curl back his mustache before marching on to become the Hero of Dragon Age 4 and end all the Blights forever.

 

I don't know what you're all so worried about, is all.  We NEVER saw whoever was left behind actually die.

[Lazarillo]

I choose Stroud, because I think it's a poorly implemented, contrived decision just there to add some shallow drama to the story rather than anything actually interesting, and so it seems fair to counter the one-must-be-sacrificed cliche with my own guy-who-isn't-important-dies-to-make-things-seem-more-serious cliche.  I'm sure Hawke will get killed off-camera with all that Anderfels stuff so the writers don't have to worry about her anymore, but for now, she gets to survive.

 

As for Alistair and Loghain, well, in my preferred worldstate, the former was last seen chatting with Teagan in the Hanged Man and the latter died against the Archdemon, so they're generally a moot point.  The one time I did play a state where Alistair was the warden, Hawke is the one who got killed, but I deleted that file shortly after and restarted with my preferred state because I just didn't like the way the scene played out that way.

[Lazarillo]

I don't know what you're all so worried about, is all.  We NEVER saw whoever was left behind actually die.

 

In fact, since the choice specifically says they will "probably" die, that it is possible they don't, and thus, to account for that possibility, it means they're clearly alive until proven dead.

 

It's still a pretty trite scene though, hence my above logic about who to sacrifice.

[Adynata]

For me it depends on which Hawke I'm using and who they're with. I killed off Ander's Hawke because I thought Anders deserved it (lol) but I saved Sebastian's Hawke because he's just too precious 

[Obadiah]

Well, Hawke did survive getting gut stabbed/piked by the Arishok in front of his long suffering dog (with blood magic?) so, he might survive the Nightmare in the Fade. You never know.

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