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[panda_express12]

I always kill off Hawke. Always.

 

Stroud is around for 5 minutes and I still save him over Hawke.

 

Why do I always kill off Hawke? Becasue Dragon Age 2.

[Aren]

Hawke alive, Alistair dead, the champion is more important than a Senior warden

[Jolinar773]

Hawke alive, Alistair dead, the champion is more important than a Senior warden

*nods* you my friend, are a kindred soul indeed... *_*

[Ashii6]

I had to make this choice a few days ago, actually. I wasn't sure what to think of it. Choice was between my snarky FemHawke and Stroud. It was no brainer, I sacrificed Stroud, because there is no way in hell I would let Hawke die for a character that was 2 minutes in DA2 and 15 in Inquistion. I LOVE my snarky FemHawke and I don't even wanna think about Isabela (LI) if I had to sacrifice Hawke.

Even if I had to choose between Hawke and Alistair/Loghain I would still rescue Hawke. I read some people didn't like Hawke at all. I don't know why. I loved her from the very beginning of DA2 and I can only hope she will be alright and will reunite with Isabela. Sigh.

[PnXMarcin1PL]

Saved Hawke ofc. Loghain died :>

[Gambit458]

I always kill off Hawke. Always.

 

Stroud is around for 5 minutes and I still save him over Hawke.

 

Why do I always kill off Hawke? Becasue Dragon Age 2.

That's a dumb reason to kill Hawke 

[myahele]

Ultimately, Hawke doesn't really offer anything to the inquisition.

 

He's pretty much banned from Kirkwall, so his noble status/ viscount won't do any good.

The mage/templars don't want anything to do with Hawke since they blame him

[BloodKaiden]

Ultimately, Hawke doesn't really offer anything to the inquisition.
 
He's pretty much banned from Kirkwall, so his noble status/ viscount won't do any good.
The mage/templars don't want anything to do with Hawke since they blame him

Same thing for anyone in the place of Hawke.

[Guha sharan]

Same thing for anyone in the place of Hawke.

I'm sorry Loghain offers a lot more than Hawke. While Hawke is a brilliant at combat and would be useful in a fight, Loghain is the one you want for the Inquisition. He is THE COMMANDER (sorry Cullen). Also while officially Grey Wardens are neutral, Loghain has close connection with the Monarch of Ferelden. The only problem is he'll probably end up screaming at some orleasian noble

[phaonica]

The mage/templars don't want anything to do with Hawke since they blame him

 

Do most of the mages and templars blame Hawke? I don't remember anyone mentioning Hawke until ... I think when Varric said he'd introduce us. I think Loghain/Alistair/Stroud all express that they blame Hawke, and one might extrapolate that that's a common sentiment, but I don't remember anyone other than the Warden saying anything about it. Maybe someone could direct me to some dialog that I missed.

[Boost32]

Ultimately, Hawke doesn't really offer anything to the inquisition.
 
He's pretty much banned from Kirkwall, so his noble status/ viscount won't do any good.
The mage/templars don't want anything to do with Hawke since they blame him

He is not banned from Kirkwall of he is the Viscount, in fact he still the Viscount.
http://dragonage.wik...ate_of_Kirkwall

So a Viscount Hawke can aid the Inquisition more than a single Warden.

[Kiesae]

Loghain is cool and gets saved as often as the games throw the choice at me. Hawke was in an unfortunate position there, but I also didn't care all that much in the first place. I don't dislike Hawke and sure it was a sad scene, especially for Varric, but it also wasn't a decision I had to think about.

As for their use to the Inquisition, same really. Both have messed things up in the past, but Loghain is smart and brings something useful to the table, whereas Hawke is really more of an ineffectual thug who happened to come into power for a while.

Now if it was Alistair instead, they'd be about equal in their usefulness and Hawke would have a decent chance at survival, but it's not like that's going to happen in my worldstates.

[FemShem]

It depends on which Hawke I put into play.

F/Hawke (humorous) lives because she was with Isabela or Merrill (depending on the play through).  M/Hawke dies, because he was an annoying goody-two-shoes, and was with Anders.  The Anders romance is enough to kill anyone.

My F/warden is alive because Morrigan guilted me with my Leliana relationship.  Seriously, I was going to sacrifice and got guilted on the first play through.

Hawke is alive because I played DA2 way too much (seriously, it's liking Star Trek V or something to admit you like DA2 in a forum...no I don't like ST5, and I don't like it best, but I did enjoy DA2), and usually romanced Isabela.  So yes, F/Hawke always lives in my playthoughs (except for opening tapestry options) because she was funny or mean.  Then again, if I DL my male goodytwoshoes Hawke...I didn't have any trouble killing him.  He was annoying.

I really loved the party banter and action in DA2?  Am I the only one who liked most of my Hawkes?

Seriously does no one else get emotionally attached to their toons?  

Wait, of course many players do, hence the upheaval and Shepard gets to live in ME3.

But I still like my Hawke better than my Shepard (Blaspheme...I will be shot down).

BTW what is it with Bioware and rogue lesbians?  Just an observation...yes I do realize Merrill and Josephine do not apply...

 

[Jolinar773]

Loghain is cool and gets saved as often as the games throw the choice at me. Hawke was in an unfortunate position there, but I also didn't care all that much in the first place. I don't dislike Hawke and sure it was a sad scene, especially for Varric, but it also wasn't a decision I had to think about.

As for their use to the Inquisition, same really. Both have messed things up in the past, but Loghain is smart and brings something useful to the table, whereas Hawke is really more of an ineffectual thug who happened to come into power for a while.

Now if it was Alistair instead, they'd be about equal in their usefulness and Hawke would have a decent chance at survival, but it's not like that's going to happen in my worldstates.

poor Hawke, I'm surprised so many people don't actually like their own customized character... o.O or am I the only one who puts a little of myself in Hawke? XD

anyway, you're my kind of gamer, honestly *_* ... killing Alistair in DAO or enjoying the show of him getting grunk at the Hanged Man?  I prefer the latter  

[Jolinar773]

I'm sorry Loghain offers a lot more than Hawke. While Hawke is a brilliant at combat and would be useful in a fight, Loghain is the one you want for the Inquisition. He is THE COMMANDER (sorry Cullen). Also while officially Grey Wardens are neutral, Loghain has close connection with the Monarch of Ferelden. The only problem is he'll probably end up screaming at some orleasian noble

agreed...  *nods*

I'd take Loghain's screaming at orlesians as a bonus too... they can be pretty annoying could be fun to watch too

[midnight tea]

Ladies and gents... I have a sneaking suspicion that if we choose Hawke over Wardens might decide the future the Order (whether exiled or not)....

[Ashii6]

It depends on which Hawke I put into play.

F/Hawke (humorous) lives because she was with Isabela or Merrill (depending on the play through).  M/Hawke dies, because he was an annoying goody-two-shoes, and was with Anders.  The Anders romance is enough to kill anyone.

My F/warden is alive because Morrigan guilted me with my Leliana relationship.  Seriously, I was going to sacrifice and got guilted on the first play through.

Hawke is alive because I played DA2 way too much (seriously, it's liking Star Trek V or something to admit you like DA2 in a forum...no I don't like ST5, and I don't like it best, but I did enjoy DA2), and usually romanced Isabela.  So yes, F/Hawke always lives in my playthoughs (except for opening tapestry options) because she was funny or mean.  Then again, if I DL my male goodytwoshoes Hawke...I didn't have any trouble killing him.  He was annoying.

I really loved the party banter and action in DA2?  Am I the only one who liked most of my Hawkes?

Seriously does no one else get emotionally attached to their toons?  

Wait, of course many players do, hence the upheaval and Shepard gets to live in ME3.

But I still like my Hawke better than my Shepard (Blaspheme...I will be shot down).

BTW what is it with Bioware and rogue lesbians?  Just an observation...yes I do realize Merrill and Josephine do not apply...

 

No, you're not the only one . I prefer my sarcastic Fem!Hawke than grey warden, Inky or even Shepard. I was really sad that we didn't get any big expansion for DA2. Well, I'm still sad because of it.

Speaking of rogue lesbians. They aren't lesbians. Leliana is BI, so is Isabela. Only Sera prefers ladies.
Well, either way, I couldn't resist any of them. *shrugs* Especially Leliana and Isabela.

[FemShem]

No, you're not the only one . I prefer my sarcastic Fem!Hawke than grey warden, Inky or even Shepard. I was really sad that we didn't get any big expansion for DA2. Well, I'm still sad because of it.

Speaking of rogue lesbians. They aren't lesbians. Leliana is BI, so is Isabela. Only Sera prefers ladies.
Well, either way, I couldn't resist any of them. *shrugs* Especially Leliana and Isabela.

 

True, I forget.  

I always play my main DA toon of choice as a lesbian on the first play thru, so I forget my Bioware "girlfriend" isn't gay.  But she's pretty gay when I'm dating her;)

Poor FemShepard was lonely in MA2 with no import:(

As far as Hawke goes...whether or not the live pretty much depends on who I imported into the tapestry.

Am I going to open all the choices?  Of course, I'm a nerd.

That being said: I couldn't kill fav humorous F/Hawke with Isabela or Merrill (I really like my warriors and my rogues)

If I had to make the same choice with Inquisitor in the next game...(Female Lavellen will live would live probably over any "Stroud" type character.  My really sweet Female Quanri mage wouldn't make it out alive.  Wow...maybe I should skip the "nice" play throughs.  Paragon Shepard wouldn't make it though MA4 (even though Shep isn't suppose to exist in 4).

You notice when you sacrifice either it is say something like they "probably" or "more than likely" die.  Something to that effect.

Translates into...Bioware reserves the right to bring back Hawke or Stroud if they want to in game 4 and up.

[draken-heart]

I am currently debating sacrificing Hawke. On the one hand, She is diplomatic and helpful (more concerned about other people than herself) so sacrifice makes sense. On the other hand, she is Viscountess and in a relationship with Isabela. Plus, Varric disapproving and the sad story makes it less bearable than not.

[Digger1967]

I'm sorry Loghain offers a lot more than Hawke. While Hawke is a brilliant at combat and would be useful in a fight, Loghain is the one you want for the Inquisition. He is THE COMMANDER (sorry Cullen). Also while officially Grey Wardens are neutral, Loghain has close connection with the Monarch of Ferelden. The only problem is he'll probably end up screaming at some orleasian noble

 

Well didn't play DA:2 and honestly in DA:I I never really got the sense that Hawke was brilliant in combat at all.  Every time I run into him in a combat situation it's always, "You guys go first, I'll watch your backs"..   lol.  

 

From a roleplay standpoint to me at least it makes more sense to let Hawke make the sacrifice rather than Stroud assuming you don't have any previous relationship with either, but really from a game standpoint it doesn't seem to make a hill of beans difference either way.

 

To me it seems pretty silly though, a very manufactured decision that really shouldn't be the Inquisitors to make.  

[Digger1967]

I am currently debating sacrificing Hawke. On the one hand, She is diplomatic and helpful (more concerned about other people than herself) so sacrifice makes sense. On the other hand, she is Viscountess and in a relationship with Isabela. Plus, Varric disapproving and the sad story makes it less bearable than not.

 

I guess for me with no previous knowledge of Hawke at all it made a little more sense from an RP standpoint to let Hawke make the sacrifice.  The first part of that came from Hawke himself, when he talks about how Stroud will be needed to rebuild the Wardens.

 

The second part of that also came from Hawke, even from our first meeting he sort of strikes me as a guy who's pretty much burned out and filled with survivors guilt.  

 

But really what it came down to for me was the stache.  Just can't kill the stache.  

[The Baconer]

Do most of the mages and templars blame Hawke? I don't remember anyone mentioning Hawke until ... I think when Varric said he'd introduce us. I think Loghain/Alistair/Stroud all express that they blame Hawke, and one might extrapolate that that's a common sentiment, but I don't remember anyone other than the Warden saying anything about it. Maybe someone could direct me to some dialog that I missed.

 

Hawke is considered a significant party in the war, but the connotations are different depending on what ending you picked in DA2. It's interesting because if you sided with the mages you have an entry written by a templar that can be summed up as "Was he/she wrong, though?" while siding with the Templars reads like "Why would you even want this a-hole at the Conclave?"

 

Templar ending = top kek. 

[phaonica]

Ladies and gents... I have a sneaking suspicion that if we choose Hawke over Wardens might decide the future the Order (whether exiled or not)....

 

If my idiot Hawke does something stupid to mess up the Wardens even more, I'm gonna be pretty pissed, lol.

[Yggdrasil]

I really struggled with this decision and still don't know what I want to do for my head canon. 

 

My choice comes down to Stroud or Hawke.  I know the lack of time for real development of Stroud makes him something of a red shirt, but I'm tempted to sacrifice Hawke for narrative gravity.  The Ultimate Sacrifice is always my choice in DA:O, and Hawke sacrificing himself fits the tragic nature of his story.  No matter what he did throughout DA2, fate always keeps taking from him.  My canon Hawke romanced Anders.  After so many years together, he couldn't bear to execute him, even if he could never completely forgive the monstrous crime of blowing up the chantry.  I don't think his story is possible to end with a happily ever after.  It just seems that his entire narrative leads to his sacrifice in the Fade.

 

Am I being way to mawkish, or do other people see where I'm coming from?

[Jedi Master of Orion]

Do most of the mages and templars blame Hawke? I don't remember anyone mentioning Hawke until ... I think when Varric said he'd introduce us. I think Loghain/Alistair/Stroud all express that they blame Hawke, and one might extrapolate that that's a common sentiment, but I don't remember anyone other than the Warden saying anything about it. Maybe someone could direct me to some dialog that I missed.

 

No, in fact Hawke's codex explicitly says they don't blame him/her. Or at least the templars don't.