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[CBotB]

Personally I really do hope that the inquisitor is like the new Shepard because while I finished the game and was pretty satisfied, I still feel like there should a LOT more to do with your inquisitor. Logically their story could be over, but really? why do we need ANOTHER new hero? We've got three already, use one of them. 

[Incantrix]

Bring back the warden thread #204

Keep em coming guys, maybe after thread 300 they'll change their minds. *Disgusted noise*

[Iakus]

I swear, if my (surviving) Wardens end up dying some ignomious offscreen death just to settle the "Why can't the Hero of Ferelden come back next game?" crowd, I'm gonna be mad.  

[Dukemon]

Inquisition spoiled that there is a little civil war in the gray wardens club. I would like to play a new warden newbie than we can we see Anderfels finally.
For the HoF prayer this gay could help the new warden behind the scenes with his knowledge or something.

[Father_Jerusalem]

Posted 26 November 2014 - 10:52 AM

 

****** seriously with the necro?

[DDJ]

I have not quite given up on an untainted Warden return yet.  Keep in mind, as Bioware seems to have forgotten, that throughout DAI Leliana, whom they put there, talks about how much she misses the Warden etc. assuming she was romanced.  Assuming that Leliana is not made the Divine she tells the Inquisitor after C's defeat that she is staying with the Inquisition.  This appears to put a very different light on Leliana - a fickle "Too bad for the Warden" light.  Certainly it changed my views on her.  She may be likable, but I don't feel I could trust her.  So, if she appears in the future, it will definitely color my vision of her reliability.  Of course, Bioware could use time honored kill the Warden off, but that would raise a stir.  So, putting it bluntly, if the Warden does not return and Leliana stays, the view of her changes.  Of course, a tainted Warden could be limiting, but Fiona was untainted so why not the Warden?  They do not need to find a cure all, only a cure me.  Perhaps Mr. Laidlaw and Bioware have not considered this.

[canarius]

Don't listen to the Warden haters here. They are the vocal minority. The Warden has to be back. Only he can save this franchise from the downfall after DA:O.

[Heimdall]

Don't listen to the Warden haters here. They are the vocal minority. The Warden has to be back. Only he can save this franchise from the downfall after DA:O.

*sigh* No, those that want him back regardless of sense or feasibility are in the minority. Most others don't give a damn and some of us are annoyed by the constant Warden fanboying.

[Eelectrica]

Warden, where ever you are, get a hard hat. Rocks are gonna be falling on your head any day now...

[Aren]

strange that the warden is not involved in the Anderfel affair,he/she is by far more popular than Loghain/Alistair who end up to be involved if survived.

(this is way i kill them in the fade)

[XEternalXDreamsX]

I thought that in an interview, someone said the Warden is finished as far as making an in game entrance. It can't hurt to keep it on the table though.

[Isaidlunch]

They had their chance in Here Lies the Abyss and they chose not to, if it didn't happen then it's never going to happen.

[robertthebard]

Don't listen to the Warden haters here. They are the vocal minority. The Warden has to be back. Only he can save this franchise from the downfall after DA:O.

I absolutely loved my Wardens, all 20 or so of them. What I hate is people telling me that my game's ending is invalid because they chose to do the DR, or to let someone else take the killing blow. Perhaps, instead of just baiting, you should look at the reality of the situation: There were quite a few people that liked the US ending, and found it very rewarding. There were also quite a few people that, after the ending slide show, had their Warden off with their LI's doing whatever, or, alternatively, going through the Eluvian with Morrigan. All of these people had their endings smashed because the vocal minority of "but the Warden" couldn't let well enough alone. So if you wonder why we're irate to see these threads, now you know.

[KaiserShep]

Don't listen to the Warden haters here. They are the vocal minority. The Warden has to be back. Only he can save this franchise from the downfall after DA:O.

 

Curious how the Warden has become synonymous for some sort of balm that ails a franchise to some, despite there being no trait of the actual character to establish this. After all, the silent protagonist is, as far as the Dragon Age franchise is concerned, dead as a doornail. Even if the Warden did return, it would be a fully-voiced character, along with all of the supposed limitations such a thing entails. More importantly than that, because this is a multi-state character, the vast majority of dialogue would overlap with a substitute character, so basically you just get a Warden-flavored understudy for a character that exists in an ultimate sacrifice world state. 

[Toasted Llama]

Don't listen to the Warden haters here. They are the vocal minority. The Warden has to be back. Only he can save this franchise from the downfall after DA:O.

How is "I'm done with the Warden, their story is over, I want to move on and if they return they won't be the same as they were before" suddenly synonymous to "I hate the Warden"?

[Tyloric]

It has already been stated in several interviews that the Warden will not be returning. 

[Yggdrasil]

(Sorry, my browser won't let me quote...)

 

@WinterRaven: Think about it, though.  Your suggestion would mean the developers would have make two entirely different games.  People need to factor in the practical, real world development when coming up with their hypothetical wish list.

 

@blahblahbah:  Yes, yes, yes!  Because of DA:I, we will never see the Orlesian ruler or the White Divine in anything but a passing codex entry.  I'd personally rather limit player choice if it means less tying of the developers' hands.  Why can't we end up in the same place but just decide how we get there?

[Little Princess Peach]

The warden isnt ever coming back.

 

A large amount of choices regarding important plot decisions is good for the current game. However what alot of people dont want to admit is that a large amount of choices in games WILL hinder what they can do in a future game.  You saw this with the Warden. The Warden was never going to be important to the plot as the Warden is dead in peoples games.

 

The story of southern thedas has pretty much been wrapped up. The next DA game will be set in northern thedas somewhere.

I've said this before, you don't need every choice carried over.

 

guess what it's a laod of horse plop what people have said regarding the warden, he she can fight with the Inquisitor, Morrigan could have the same spells as the warden and she was still able to fight along side us, she never used any fancey spells only the basic mage ones. Bioware did not worry about her spells coming over from the original game, and why can't the warden learn new things it's been like 10-11 years since Origins I am pretty sure she/he would of learned something new by now.

 

As for choices you only need the basic as follows:

Romance:- who did warden romance

Race: what race are they

Origin: what origin are they

King Queen other: what did they do at the end of origins

 

I have no head cannon as for what my warden was doing past Origins, I always thought she stayed in Dermin hmm maybe that was my head cannon go fish.

like I said Bioware dose not need to add every single detail for the warden did Hawke have all the points taken in? come on now

[robertthebard]

I've said this before, you don't need every choice carried over.
 
guess what it's a laod of horse plop what people have said regarding the warden, he she can fight with the Inquisitor, Morrigan could have the same spells as the warden and she was still able to fight along side us, she never used any fancey spells only the basic mage ones. Bioware did not worry about her spells coming over from the original game, and why can't the warden learn new things it's been like 10-11 years since Origins I am pretty sure she/he would of learned something new by now.

You're right, not all decisions have to carry over, and they should have dropped the decision to not do the US. Yes, two can play that game, but, the more pertinent answer to your last sentence here is that "Sometimes, the Warden is dead".
 

As for choices you only need the basic as follows:
Romance:- who did warden romance
Race: what race are they
Origin: what origin are they
King Queen other: what did they do at the end of origins
 
I have no head cannon as for what my warden was doing past Origins, I always thought she stayed in Dermin hmm maybe that was my head cannon go fish.
like I said Bioware dose not need to add every single detail for the warden did Hawke have all the points taken in? come on now

You forgot the most important one: Is the Warden alive? The problem here isn't that some people chose the US ending, and are completely satisfied with it, the problem here is that some people didn't. You don't see a new thread every Tuesday insisting that the choice to not do the US be removed from the possible choices, however, you can pretty much set your calendar by "bring the Warden back" threads. "But Rob, they can replace those Wardens with the Orleasian Warden", and if this is true, they can also replace the Warden with Generic NPC 234.

[In Exile]

You did see "remove the US threads" back in the day to be fair. The ire just moved on to the new PCs. And I think DAA proved just how bad of an idea bring back the HOF campaigns turn out.

[robertthebard]

You did see "remove the US threads" back in the day to be fair. The ire just moved on to the new PCs. And I think DAA proved just how bad of an idea bring back the HOF campaigns turn out.

Very true. People incapable of letting go of the Warden went to great lengths attempting to undermine anyone that didn't play the way they did so they could get what they wanted, instead of what we were told we were going to get, a story about Thedas.

[canarius]

I absolutely loved my Wardens, all 20 or so of them. What I hate is people telling me that my game's ending is invalid because they chose to do the DR, or to let someone else take the killing blow. Perhaps, instead of just baiting, you should look at the reality of the situation: There were quite a few people that liked the US ending, and found it very rewarding. There were also quite a few people that, after the ending slide show, had their Warden off with their LI's doing whatever, or, alternatively, going through the Eluvian with Morrigan. All of these people had their endings smashed because the vocal minority of "but the Warden" couldn't let well enough alone. So if you wonder why we're irate to see these threads, now you know.

 

There were some people who got their Shepards killed at the end of Mass Effect 2 but that didn't stop Bioware from making Mass Effect 3 with Shepard as the main character. Shepard's death wasn't canon and the same is true for The Warden.

[AresKeith]

There were some people who got their Shepards killed at the end of Mass Effect 2 but that didn't stop Bioware from making Mass Effect 3 with Shepard as the main character. Shepard's death wasn't canon and the same is true for The Warden.

 

Not even close to the same thing 

[Ariella]

There were some people who got their Shepards killed at the end of Mass Effect 2 but that didn't stop Bioware from making Mass Effect 3 with Shepard as the main character. Shepard's death wasn't canon and the same is true for The Warden.

No, it is not. Not by a long shot. ME was Shepard's story. All three chapters.

Dragon Age is not the Warden's story. Dragon Age is the story of Thedas. The Warden's part is over and done. Time to move on.

[Cyberstrike nTo]

The HoF's story is over and the only thing left to answer is the cure for the Calling and marring Leliana. Both of which IMHO could be done in a DLC and/or expansion pack because it's a coda, and it's not worth BioWare wasting time and resources on a full game to answer questions that would be nothing but a glorified side-quest and a cutscene.