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[TibetanMonk]

I'm surprised there are still so many people buying physical copies.

[Spankatola]

Internet speed is pretty much the biggest bottleneck. I don't live in the US but I imagine there are some bandwidth throttling at certain states? If you have speeds over 100mbps with unlimited bandwidth a digital download is convenient.

 

It's possible you would uninstall your game some day, and a few years down the road you need to re-download that game that's 25+gb in size (it won't be pre-download already right?) if you want to play it again.

I downloaded the game using my phone's hotspot. It took two evenings.

[AlanC9]

PS: Some interesting article points out that it's greener for the earth if you purchase games that has a size bigger than 1.3 GB (carbon emissions and what not) compared to downloading.

Anyone got a link?

[Cyonan]

It doesn't really matter if Origin has 100% market share of DA:I right? The approximation of market share for steam is to give you insight and let you infer as to how many digital copies sold through Origin.

 

92% of PC game sales were digital in 2013, sure, but that doesn't mean that digital copies of DA:I sold 10 times more for PC.

 

My point is that 92% of digital sales were made with steam sales + various other distribution methods which sell older games with discounts, and Origin is highly unlikely to sell a brand new game by digital means.

 

The thing is that you have no evidence to suggest that Origin would be significantly different from Steam in regards to what percentage of people are buying digitally.

 

Is it exactly 92%? Probably not, but that doesn't mean that it's significantly lower than that.

[Kylisse]

I buy a physical box to keep all my other Bioware boxes company, but that's usually like two years after release. I prefer digital now because I can preorder and forget about it until preload/release day.

 

Anyway, of all my friends, only one bought a box. Times have changed!

[SilentWolfie]

The thing is that you have no evidence to suggest that Origin would be significantly different from Steam in regards to what percentage of people are buying digitally.

 

Is it exactly 92%? Probably not, but that doesn't mean that it's significantly lower than that.

 

Lol, if you really think Origin sold 10 times more original digital copies than the physical copies... In any case I posted my earlier response, but I'll write it again.

 

 

I'm not here to prove some non-existent proof of PC digital sales comment. If you want to brag you're right, show the forums that you have hard proof. I quoted from vgchartz as my original source for physical copies. Anything else is guesswork.

[Big Bad]

I think Origin is a steaming pile of crap (no pun intended), and would never ever use it to purchase a game that I could also get from Steam for the same price.  That said, I will take a digital copy of a game--even if it's from Origin--over a physical copy any day.  To be honest, when I was debating about buying DAI, I completely forgot that purchasing a disc copy was even an option. 

[xnode]

It's the internet , if it looks professional enough it must be true!

[SilentWolfie]

Anyone got a link?

 

http://www.extremete...n-blu-ray-discs

[AllThatJazz]

I'm someone who always used to buy a physical edition of games I think I'm really going to like, however I bought DAI on Origin (physical pc deluxe not available in UK, plus slightly earlier access). I always considered myself a bit of a luddite when it came to digital sales, but the last game I bought hard copy was a year ago (Arkham Origins). Everything this year has been Steam, Origin or GOG. I honestly don't see myself buying any more games retail, apart from the odd super collectors edition. Times are changing!

 

Edit: The fact that retail PC sales have fallen off a cliff a bit is evidenced by just how few mainstream shops sell many PC games any more. My local GAME has about half a shelf of AAA PC titles and a few older ones, with everything else in the shop console focused. Before it shut down my local HMV had no PC games whatsoever. There's also an independent game seller in my town and once again, no PC titles at all ... seems like you have to order online even if you don't download them (at least where I live).

[WillieStyle]

From now on, whenever someone asks me for a proper example of "begging the question" I'll have posts in this thread to show them.

[KneeTheCap]

Isn't it common knowledge that PC gaming has gone mainly digital, and retail sales are low because of it?

[DemGeth]

You seriously think anything on pc sells more boxes than digital.

Thanks for the laugh at least.

[Cyonan]

Lol, if you really think Origin sold 10 times more original digital copies than the physical copies... In any case I posted my earlier response, but I'll write it again.

 

You may not be here to dispute PC digital sales but you are here to post sales numbers and people have called into question the validity of the PC numbers because of digital sales being so prevalent on the platform.

 

I've yet to see a real argument against that point that doesn't boil down to "lolorigin". Like it or not if you want to talk sales numbers that include PC, you've got to deal with that point.

[SilentWolfie]

You may not be here to dispute PC digital sales but you are here to post sales numbers and people have called into question the validity of the PC numbers because of digital sales being so prevalent on the platform.

 

I've yet to see a real argument against that point that doesn't boil down to "lolorigin". Like it or not if you want to talk sales numbers that include PC, you've got to deal with that point.

 

What's there to question the hard copies of the PC numbers? I can't give you the digital numbers and nobody except Bioware/EA can. The best I can do is give you my opinion. Other than the 26 GB download, origin not being popular, people still prefer a physical copy on online polls, there's no other valid information that I can give you. Some of you keep attacking my opinions, which is fine, but I have to remind all of you multiple times that I cannot and am unable to tell you concrete stats of digitially sold copies of DA:I.

 

It is in my opinion that consoles outsell the PC version at least 4-5 times. That is all. And finally I'll edit the title to get some extra clarity.

[Sylvius the Mad]

PS: Some interesting article points out that it's greener for the earth if you purchase games that has a size bigger than 1.3 GB (carbon emissions and what not) compared to downloading.

I remember once I saw a popular YouTube channel work out its carbon footprint, and it was gigantic (because of the millions of hours of computer time to watch the videos).

[Sylvius the Mad]

Lmao. This is like saying "in my opinion 2+2=5"

For extremely large values of 2, this is true.

But your overall point is correct.

[SilentWolfie]

Lmao. This is like saying "in my opinion 2+2=5" Well sorry but that's wrong. It is a known fact that on pc digital sales FAR outpace retail and boxed copies. Can anyone give hard numbers for digital sales at this point? No. Does that mean that digital sales of this game on pc wont far outsell hard copies? Nope. 

 

Except 2+2 =/= 5 is a fact. That is pretty much the worst analogy to use, because you would have to have an existing comparison.

 

You are giving the analogy of:

 

Fact: There is 100000 sold digital copies of DA:I

Silentwolfie: In my opinion there is 20000 copies of DA:I

 

Obviously I am in the wrong. It's irritating to see how much skewed logic there is here.

[otis0310]

Isn't it common knowledge that PC gaming has gone mainly digital, and retail sales are low because of it?

 

Yes it is.  I talked to someone at EB Games and they confirmed that they have very little PC stock in the store because of Steam, and other digital services.  If you look at Best Buy you will see the same trend, very few games for PC.

 

As a result if the OP said they would get an additional 20% from digital sales I would say that it way off.  More likely  less then 1/4 of all sales would be hard copy.

I own a hard copy, but that is because my internet here is very bad so I do not like downloading big things if I can avoid it.  It can take over 2 days to download a 20+ gig game. 

[AlanC9]

Other than the 26 GB download, origin not being popular, people still prefer a physical copy on online polls, there's no other valid information that I can give you.

Buying a physical copy doesn't get you around using Origin, of course. OTOH, Origin hate isn't all that rational in the first place, so maybe people are avoiding using Origin for purchasing even if they still need it to launch the game.

[DanAxe]

I read yesterday that Inquisition was the game that sold more copies in UK last week. I'll link the article when i find it.

[Cyonan]

What's there to question the hard copies of the PC numbers? I can't give you the digital numbers and nobody except Bioware/EA can. The best I can do is give you my opinion. Other than the 26 GB download, origin not being popular, people still prefer a physical copy on online polls, there's no other valid information that I can give you. Some of you keep attacking my opinions, which is fine, but I have to remind all of you multiple times that I cannot and am unable to tell you concrete stats of digitially sold copies of DA:I.

 

It is in my opinion that consoles outsell the PC version at least 4-5 times. That is all. And finally I'll edit the title to get some extra clarity.

 

People are criticizing your claims because they are so far against what is the standard for every other game out there. It's well known that on PC digital sales far outnumber physical ones, and then you come along and say "I think that digital only sold as much as 20% digital".

 

I'm not asking for exact numbers, but the idea behind speculating when sales numbers aren't given to us is that we use existing data to estimate. The 92% number is a good overview of what the PC market is line, and the fact that just over 50% of EA's total revenue was in digital sales(including consoles) is a good overview of how people are buying EA's stuff. Neither of those numbers line up with your 20% guesswork.

 

Ignoring that Origin actually does have a lot of users, no matter how you buy the game on PC you have to use Origin anyway. It's popularity isn't really a question here. You don't get around it by buying physical.

[DemGeth]

Vg charts has bf4 at around a million for pc.

And it has 2.5 or so users.

Just saying