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[AlanC9]

hurts to read this.. Downloading the game since Sunday with origin swallowing 2 GBs of download

Wait... you mean you're only downloading 500MB per day?

[RSX Titan]

Don't discount the digital sales for the consoles either. I own an xbox one and made the decision to go pure digital this generation. I doubt I'm the only one.

[Conduit0]

VGChartz is notoriously bad at tracking early sales data, so bad in fact that they've literally been caught just making s**t up in the past. Sales data for games that are less than 3 to 4 months old should be taken with entire mine's worth of salt.

[lazysuperstar]

Wait... you mean you're only downloading 500MB per day?

 

No no. Around 3GB per day. 7.3 GB done so far but from 4.3 to 3.something and 7.1 to 5.something, origin made me download 2 GBs again which was painful with the already pathetic net speed

[Epyon5757]

Should also be pointed out that RPGs will NEVER appeal to as wide a market as shooters do.  There are a LOT of people who won't even consider an RPG of any kind because they don't have the patience to sit back and enjoy the story and the game.  Shooters like COD and FarCry and GTA give people a far more instant gratification - within an hour or two - but RPG's like DA and Elder Scrolls often take several hours to get to the first high point.  

 

Just the American numbers in the first week put DAI at around 550K - and that's just the physical copies.  Got to figure there's another 70k digital there (minimum), mainly from PC, and then Europe and Asia, where download speeds are higher and shooters aren't as dominant - haven't reported numbers yet.

 

The United States typically only accounts for between 30-40% of copies sold (digital excluded, since those numbers aren't easily available).  I expect DAI will have moved around 2 - 2.5 million physical copies at the six month mark.  

[Ponendus]

I'm actually shocked that PC disc copy sales are so high. I buy the disc copy simply because I'm a collector, but everyone else I know always buys PC games digitally. I really wouldn't take any notice of these numbers for the purposes of a console to PC sales comparison. It is interesting to see the console sales however.

 

I don't own a console, so a question: can you digitally download the game on console and not purchase a disc? If so, does this count take that into account?

[dantares83]

I'm happy this game isn't selling well...

 

That's not a slight against the good folks at Biolware who poured their hearts into this game -- I think Inquisition is a great game, but Origins is legendary; and I want the direction of this franchise to return to its roots.

 

Origins sold ~6M as a new IP with zero hype, but the hardcore PC community helped it  move units with word-of-mouth. EA has moved further & further away from Origins with every new Dragon Age release, and so far all it has to show for it is reduced sales and poor word-of-mouth each time.

 

Selling ~1M units for a game as hyped as Inquisition is disasterous -- they were chasing Skyrim, which has sold ~25M.

 

Maybe its time to try chasing Origins...there are at least 6 million of us ready to buy that kind of game.

 

another person so into the past and talking about past glory and possibly not forward-moving...............

 

Origins is a great game, in fact, the one that got all of us into the series. But Origins is -/- DA2 or DAI!

 

it is done. stop saying the old games are always better. When Skyrim came out, so many people have said that Oblivion is much better but it still sold a huge load of number.

 

And i do not ever think they were chasing Skyrim numbers. No Bioware games has ever sold that much. In fact, even if u add up all the games they have sold, it still wouldn't reach those numbers (Mass Effect which is actually a more popular series than DA did not sell those numbers combined!)

 

stop putting words in people's mouth and play ur DAO till the end of time. Or send tons of emails to the team and ask them to make a remake of DAO so u can play it again and again and again. Just don't play new games and compare.

[Travie]

It's not very surprising. After DA2 there wasn't nearly as much interest in the series, and of course the negative buzz over the broken PC controls might have had an effect as well. 

[ev76]

I have an xbox1 and this was the first game I bought and downloaded digitally. Personally I think this is the way I will go, from now on. That said, I went to best buy on the day it came out and was sold out, wal mart was sold out. Target only had 2 left. I ended getting one of the last ones.
I think the sales must be pretty good, considering all competing titles were still full on the shelves. Either that or the stores did not order enought.
Anyway, thanks op for sharing numbers.

[myahele]

Those are still good 1st week sales sale estimate for physical copies. we'll see how well it sells weeks and months from now..... But then again selling 1-2 million copies of tomb raider wasn't enough to be considered a success by SE

[adembroski]

I just checked vgchartz for US sales, and the total console sales pretty much outsell the PC counterpart 5 times. Guess it's a reason why the PC version has console based UI...

 

PS 4:  182,803
XONE:  137,608
PC: 84,475
XBOX 360: 92,901
PS 3: 62,369

 

Edit: Some people claim digital sales for PC might boost up the amount, and it's obviously difficult to assess how many digital copies of DA:I is out there, but the digital edition of DA:I isn't any cheaper and probably has a hefty 25 GB+ size to download. I will expect no more than 20% extra digital sales for PC (I did some internet clicking). Just be reminded that this is all guesswork.

 

Edit 2: After some searching through BF4 sales, the sales for PC vs digital is approximately 1:1.5 copies, or a 150%. That sugges that PC sold about 210000 copies in total.

Where'd you get that data?

A quick google search told me in no uncertain terms that that 84K on PC could be a drop in the bucket. The NPD reported that 50% of all PC game sales were digital in 2010 (EA.com being the 4th largest outlet at the time), and this number rose to 92% by 2013 (the higher profile of Origin has to have improved on EA.com.)

I'm not saying that DAI has sold 800k copies+ on PC by any means, but the 1:1.5 ratio seems very low to me. 

In my personal experience (Remember: Data is the plural of anecdote:P), I have yet to see DAI PC on a shelf. I've seen the console versions, but you can't get it retail unless you go to a specialty store like GameStop. Neither Walmart in my area have it.

Tangentially, it released the week before Black Friday entering the holiday season alongside some pretty big titles. That has to play a role. I think you'll have to look at the 1st month sales to gauge it well, rather than the 1st week as one normally does.

[dantares83]

what is the projected sale for DAI? and its budget?

[AeonixG]

I wonder if they include all region copies though 

[Coyote X Starrk]

Hope the X-mas sales bump the numbers by alot. 

 

Would hate to see EA/Bioware think that the game is not amazing. 

 

Its just not a game for everyone. 

[AlanC9]

No no. Around 3GB per day. 7.3 GB done so far but from 4.3 to 3.something and 7.1 to 5.something, origin made me download 2 GBs again which was painful with the already pathetic net speed

Ah. Gotcha. That's a tough break.

[SilentWolfie]

Where'd you get that data?

A quick google search told me in no uncertain terms that that 84K on PC could be a drop in the bucket. The NPD reported that 50% of all PC game sales were digital in 2010 (EA.com being the 4th largest outlet at the time), and this number rose to 92% by 2013 (the higher profile of Origin has to have improved on EA.com.)

I'm not saying that DAI has sold 800k copies+ on PC by any means, but the 1:1.5 ratio seems very low to me. 

In my personal experience (Remember: Data is the plural of anecdote:P), I have yet to see DAI PC on a shelf. I've seen the console versions, but you can't get it retail unless you go to a specialty store like GameStop. Neither Walmart in my area have it.

Tangentially, it released the week before Black Friday entering the holiday season alongside some pretty big titles. That has to play a role. I think you'll have to look at the 1st month sales to gauge it well, rather than the 1st week as one normally does.

 

If you read the first post carefully, it said that the information came from Vgchartz.

 

That 1:1.5 ratio came from battlefield 4 players registered against vgchartz numbers (Global PC numbers). But now that you put it that way, perhaps it is wrong to think that US digital sales = Global digital sales. US alone might account for much higher digital sales, although the global stats can still use the 1:1.5 figure.

[finc.loki]

Is download time actually a downside? I just reinstalled DAO:UE from disc a couple weeks ago, and the process took quite a while, comparable to installing a big game from Origin or Steam. It also required more interaction from me with disk swaps, etc., whereas an online installation is fire-and-forget.

THIS!!

 

Last time I installed a game from a DVD, or rather several DVD's. It took forever. You also have to baby-sit the install to change discs.

 

With DAI and my internet Speeds I just turn on Preload and in 2 hours it has finished downloading, I just watched some TV whilst doing it or I can do with just before bed.

Then it is all there, and come midnight at launch, just a quick unlock and it is ready to go.

 

So convenient and fast.

 

You can't really even find PC games in stores anymore, just a few big launches. They don't keep stock of previous games anymore.

Can't remember last times I went to a Gamestop or EBGames. I just download my games. It's awesome.

[LegendaryBlade]

As much as I love getting hard copies, one thing you will learn about PC players is that I am in the minority. The large majority of PC players get things purely digital for simplicity.

[finc.loki]

Internet speed is pretty much the biggest bottleneck. I don't live in the US but I imagine there are some bandwidth throttling at certain states? If you have speeds over 100mbps with unlimited bandwidth a digital download is convenient.

 

It's possible you would uninstall your game some day, and a few years down the road you need to re-download that game that's 25+gb in size (it won't be pre-download already right?) if you want to play it again.

 

 

Sigh all you want, you don't seem to understand I'm not here to prove some non-existent proof of PC digital sales comment. If you want to brag you're right, show the forums that you have hard proof. I quoted from vgchartz as my original source for physical copies. Anything else is guesswork.

Please just stop, you are totally CLUELESS.

 

First off, if you play on PC you HAVE to use origin whether you buy on disc or download. Most PC players download their games. It means nothing if Steam has the biggest market share. If you WANT an EA game you HAVE to use Origin.

 

So us PC players download the games from Origin. We do not go to a brick and mortar store to buy a physical copy that still needs Origin (digital DRM) anyways.

Only people with very slow internet and an some kind of fetish for a hardcopy would do that.

 

Also what is with the comment that "Origin is unlikely to sell brand new games". What the HELL are you talking about? Origin belongs to EA, they release ALL their new games in that service, day one, actually before day one via preload.

 

Just STOP!!!!!!!!!!!

[Giantdeathrobot]

1) That's US only. There are other countries in the world.

 

2) VGChartz sucks, especially for PC since it doesn't track digital sales. It's just generally not that reliable anyway.

 

3) This is week 1. I say we wait until the numbers post Black Friday and Christmas before judging.

 

4) Dragon Age won't sell like crazy. It won't reach Skyrim numbers. For a Bioware RPG, 500K in the US alone sans digital sales ia pretty damn good.

[finc.loki]

What's there to question the hard copies of the PC numbers? I can't give you the digital numbers and nobody except Bioware/EA can. The best I can do is give you my opinion. Other than the 26 GB download, origin not being popular, people still prefer a physical copy on online polls, there's no other valid information that I can give you. Some of you keep attacking my opinions, which is fine, but I have to remind all of you multiple times that I cannot and am unable to tell you concrete stats of digitially sold copies of DA:I.

 

It is in my opinion that consoles outsell the PC version at least 4-5 times. That is all. And finally I'll edit the title to get some extra clarity.

26GB download is common place for a game today. 

After you have downloaded the game and finished it, you can just move the game folder to a backup hard drive and now you don't have to redownload the game again.

Most people have fast enough internet connections today. I download 26GB in less than 2 hours. 

 

Your argument for people hating Origin is baseless. If a person wants DAI they HAVE to deal with Origin no matter what (on PC), even with a physical copy, you still have to login to Origin etc. It's EA's DRM.

 

Then the fact that Origin now have over 40 Million user accounts should tell you if it has the 'market' to handle the download and popularity. The reality is and that everyone has realized is that if you're on PC and and you want to play an EA game you WILL have to use Origin.

 

If I am to be honest, Origin is today just as good as Steam. I get download speeds with Origin faster than Steam. I have 4.1MB download speeds (35Mbps). In Origin, it is not uncommon to see speeds sustained well over than speed. I've seen up to 8MB/s. Almost twice my normal speed.

 

People have gotten used to Origin, because EA has stepped up and offered a pretty good service. You can even return a PC digital game and get money back.

 

So YES, most PC copies were sold in Origin, I am pretty damned sure of that.

 

Consoles ALWAYS outsell PC when it comes to Triple A titles. Only titles PC out do consoles is F2P games and MMO's and MOBA's etc.

 

Some games however have a larger appeal to PC players. Which is why you can see sales being high on PC for some games. Like Diablo 3 as an example that sold 11 million (at least) on PC alone.

Normally a good selling Triple A game on PC is 2 million copies. Most sit at ~500,000.

[texhnolyze]

Digital is actually THE main market on PC. PC gamer buy only digital games nowadays. I expect it's 2x or 3x times of the physical copies sold.

[AtreiyaN7]

I'm happy this game isn't selling well...

 

That's not a slight against the good folks at Biolware who poured their hearts into this game -- I think Inquisition is a great game, but Origins is legendary; and I want the direction of this franchise to return to its roots.

 

Origins sold ~6M as a new IP with zero hype, but the hardcore PC community helped it  move units with word-of-mouth. EA has moved further & further away from Origins with every new Dragon Age release, and so far all it has to show for it is reduced sales and poor word-of-mouth each time.

 

Selling ~1M units for a game as hyped as Inquisition is disasterous -- they were chasing Skyrim, which has sold ~25M.

 

Maybe its time to try chasing Origins...there are at least 6 million of us ready to buy that kind of game.

 

What a ridiculous statement, because not only will you never get something like DA:O from them ever again if sales turn out to be a disaster (something that I sincerely doubt will occur), you're just not going to get any further DA games at all.

 

Having put in over 60 hours into the game - skipping both showers (I telecommute, so I don't really care about personal hygiene right now because I won't be going out anywhere until I finish the game) and even food at times to play it - I think it's a great game that certainly takes inspiration from both DA:O and DA2. DA:I could use some more polish and tweaking in a few areas - especially as far as controls on the PC go and addressing bugs, but it's still one of the better games that I have played recently, and I pretty much love it to bits atm.

 

I hope it does well, especially since I'm kind of sure that at least one...new(ish)...character's existence may have a major impact in the future. If you can't accept the evolution of the franchise, there are always other games that are more in line with what you want combat-wise. Wishing ill on the game because you think you're somehow going to get DA:O redux in the future is just plain stupid.

 

I, for one, never want to see the old engine in use again after enjoying the visual splendor of a new and infinitely more immersive and expansive world. I don't want them to go completely open world a la Skyrim, so I find the current approach they've taken to be a happy medium for me.

[Jaulen]

We bought a PS4 version (husband's copy) and a PC copy (for me).

 

Both were bought digitally and downloaded.

 

Would be interesting to see the physical and the digital numbers.

[ZipZap2000]

I love how this is USA only.

 

It was number 5 on the top 10 selling European games this week btw.

 

Haters gonna hate.