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[scrutinizer]

Hi,

 

Been reading this forum since the launch and I've noticed one thing that may help others decide whether or not to buy the game, and justify the huge difference in perceiving DAI by players..

 

There are two types of gamers: accepting ones, and critical ones.

The accepting ones are easily sucked into the story, they do not question certain issues simply because they lack the ability to notice them, simply put, they cannot pierce through the shiny visuals, myriad of flickering lights during a fight and overall presentation of the game. And they are happy with the product, it satisfies their needs. That is not a bad thing. They are happy with how it all is.

The critical ones are out for the hunt for whatever issue they can find. They constantly ask questions and are extremely sensitive to any inconsistencies and general BS. They pierce through the presentation easily and find everything that is lacking. And they are not happy with the product, they want more and know it should have been better and in fact could have been. That is not a bad thing. They are not willing to accept a product that is poor in their opinion.

 

Now, if you are an accepting one; buy it. No disappointments.

If you are a critical one though; stay away to save your money, time and nerves.

 

Peace.

[nagisa-aoi87]

DA : Inquisition is a very good game ! Unfortunately a damn issue known as error 34878-0 ruins everything...I'm not the only one and it's not the first game to suffer that major bug

[Schmonozov]

I'd say wait for a patch before buying the game, it has way too many technical issues to justify a purchase right now. (especially on sli rigs)

[Mes]

I think it's more PC versus Xbone/PS4 versus Xbox360/PS3 players, honestly, not whether or not someone is too distracted by sparkly graphics to notice problems.

[robmokron]

I think it's more PC versus Xbone/PS4 versus Xbox360/PS3 players, honestly, not whether or not someone is too distracted by sparkly graphics to notice problems.

 

 

I agree, its

 

PC Players: This game is a console port and i cant use my keyboard properly

 

Xbox360/ps3 players: Why does the game look so bad?!

 

XboxOne/Ps4: This game is f - ing prime!

[StingingVelvet]

It's about expectations. As a PC gamer who loved Origins I expected certain things from both sequels and both times got something a lot different. Also this game takes a lot of design from MMOs and I hate MMOs.

[movieguyabw]

Now, if you are an accepting one; buy it. No disappointments.

If you are a critical one though; stay away to save your money, time and nerves.

 

Peace.

 

Personally, I find it's more like this:

 

If you're on the fence, give it some time and think about the purchase.  Do some research on the game, if you haven't already. Find out what features are and are not in the game - and figure out if the game sounds appealing to you. 

 

In general (and this might sound counter-intuitive) avoid any opinions on the game for the time being.  It's still early, and the people who are hurting from glitches are very upset; while those of us who enjoy the game despite any glitches are really happy.  It's going to take a bit for people to calm down on both sides, and reading reactions ranging from "This is the greatest game I've ever played!" to "This is the worst game I've ever played" is understandably confusing.  Figure out first, if the features Bioware has presented as being in the game sound appealing to you.  If they do, like I said; think about the purchase for a little bit.  Hopefully by the time you decide to purchase the game, a patch will be out.

 

As someone who does love the game, I'll admit there are a lot of bugs.  Most of which that I've encountered have been rather benign; and haven't lessened the experience.  And they're ones I figured would be patched rather quickly.  There are some who've found more serious ones, however.  If by the time the patch is released, you're still on the fence - then I would suggest looking at reviews.  Hopefully by then people will be able to give more balanced reviews than "10/10" vs "0/10". 

 

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I agree, its

 

PC Players: This game is a console port and i cant use my keyboard properly

 

Xbox360/ps3 players: Why does the game look so bad?!

 

XboxOne/Ps4: This game is f - ing prime!

 

Actually, I'm a 360 player and I'm in the whole "This game is f-ing prime!" group.  lol

[Lee T]

XboxOne/Ps4: This game is f - ing prime!

Not sure about that my friends and I mostly play our games on console. however we are RPG fans first, we don't care on which platform it has been developped and we don't care on which platform we play it one, we want a good RPG.

One of my friends bought it at launch and is so far disatisfied, playing it on PS4.

I'm currently waiting for a good reason to buy it for my PS4 (my PC can't handle it) I'm actually a bit pissed that Bioware only official communications has been about PC since most of the problems that bother me are cross platform (lack of tactics, lack of storage, poor tactical cam, etc.). I hope the PC player's vendetta (which I applaud, let the game be great on all platforms) won't be used as an excuse to let the game as it is on consoles.

[SpecH82]

I'd say wait for a patch before buying the game, it has way too many technical issues to justify a purchase right now. (especially on sli rigs)

Or AMD GPUs even with the latest beta drivers, it does not work, mantle is broken, well not for all but for many I think!

 

But still I think the game is great overall and as long as I know Bioware is working on fixing the problems the game is plagued with, then it's fine for now, but that does not mean that they'll have like a year for the first fix to arrive.

[kjeld111]

The game is fantastic, but there are a few flaws that can detract from the experience

 

- PC and old gen consoles port

- the tactical view is worse than DA2 (not even mentioning DA O) and had been a bit over hyped (IMHO) during the game promotion which didn't help either

- the whole hinterlands/pacing thing : they put you in the middle of a massive zone with tons of trivial and largely optional fetch and collection quests, which can give a weak first impression of the game, and burn completionist people out. As soon as you get to Val Royaux, the pace of the game picks up, and everything become more epic after a certain event.

- I also have a hunch that the party banter issue (http://forum.bioware...-glitch-thread/) can give you a significantly different experience as far as immersion and world and character building is concerned, if you experience this bug, and can be of the cause of the reception discrepancy (some reviews mention that the cast and characters are bland and boring)

 

The way you appreciate the game depends a lot on your tolerance for those issues. If none of those is critical for you, you have a fantastic and massive world with great characters to immerse yourself in. But if one of those points "taint" your enjoyment of the game, it can be a frustrating experience indeed.

[scrutinizer]

 

It's about expectations. As a PC gamer who loved Origins I expected certain things from both sequels and both times got something a lot different.

I think both expectations and how demanding a player is are crucial factors here.

 

In general (and this might sound counter-intuitive) avoid any opinions on the game for the time being.  It's still early, and the people who are hurting from glitches are very upset; while those of us who enjoy the game despite any glitches are really happy.  It's going to take a bit for people to calm down on both sides, and reading reactions ranging from "This is the greatest game I've ever played!" to "This is the worst game I've ever played" is understandably confusing. 

Agreed. However, I managed to find some balanced reviews and the general consensus seems to be that the overall quality of writing (dialogues, story) may be a letdown, and also that certain RPGish elements are missing. (and I want to clarify that for some gamers the above mentioned issues may be positives - nothing's wrong with that)

More even-keeled players may either notice it, or not (at least I concluded so) - hence my accepting vs. critical models. But now it becomes more of a 'what kind of game do you prefer more' rather than 'it is a very bad/good game'.

Peace.

[dekarserverbot]

I am both so i got a mildly satisfaction

[JWvonGoethe]

Neither of the stereotypes presented here are particularly flattering or accurate. Real people do not fall into simple binary distinctions such as being either hypercritical or extremely easily pleased.

[Sartoz]

It's about expectations. As a PC gamer who loved Origins I expected certain things from both sequels and both times got something a lot different. Also this game takes a lot of design from MMOs and I hate MMOs.

You hit the nail on that one. Bioware failed to mange expectations. Then, again, the PR division has one Mantra. SALES!

[scrutinizer]

Neither of the stereotypes presented here are particularly flattering or accurate. Real people do not fall into simple binary distinctions such as being either hypercritical or extremely easily pleased.

I realize that. Generalization is a tool for quick measuring. Anyhow, you can treat it as two extremes on the opposite ends of the spectrum; most opinions here fall in the in-between area, however, they tend to gravitate towards either one of these ends.

Peace.

[coldflame]

I agree, its

 

PC Players: This game is a console port and i cant use my keyboard properly

 

Xbox360/ps3 players: Why does the game look so bad?!

 

XboxOne/Ps4: This game is f - ing prime!

 

 

P.S. Bioware, where is my text chat for DAMP that you said was in the game????

[DangerKips]

You hit the nail on that one. Bioware failed to mange expectations. Then, again, the PR division has one Mantra. SALES!

I'm fairly certain they were looking at what Bethesda was doing after Skyrim (TES:O) and went: "Alright guys take this engine we had Dice make and turn it into an MMO!"

Then halfway through development they must've noticed WoD was coming out around their deadline, changed their minds about it and said "CHANGE THE MARKETING! Tell them it's Dragonrim! Emphasize open-ness! Oh! And don't forget: Tell those annoying PC gamers we're developing it for them!" 

[SpiritMuse]

I would fall in the middle of the two archetypes you described. I'm not blind to the flaws, but I do tend to be pretty forgiving. Only when something becomes gamebreaking or seriously impairs play (like the dialogue freezing issue) am I really bothered by it.

[LexXxich]

So you are saying that Inquisition is a good game unless one is an inquisitive player?

[Panda]

I disagree. I think the biggest difference in reception at the moment are working versions of the game vs unplayable versions of the game. Of cource some players are more critical than others and prioritize different things but if you can't get past title screen of the game to actually play.. I think you wont be happy with the game. Until major bugs and clitches are fixed I don't think it's time to say how good or bad this game is.

[recyclebin2000]

The painfully thing is, all of the complaints are about issues the first two games got right. Literaily every complaint. That is what makes these issues so vexing.

 

Nothing to do with pc vs console, or tactics vs action. I have base expectations like being able to look up in tac mode would be nice, the cursor not getting caught on terrain, rogue auto attacking after steath in tac mode. The list goes on and it's a impressive one.

 

I don't normaly list bugs (also a impressive list), as they get fixed in time, but man, my mage getting the rogue trainers is pretty game breaking and shows how rushed out the door this game was.

 

This game is beautiful on ultra, the landscapes are the best I have seen in a game, music is good, tipical good conversations with npcs.

 

Overall I say it's a great game. The game is massive, and worth the money. It could easily, dare I say, best rpg of all time, if they had stuck with the core of what the last two games did right. No doubt they will fix some stuff.

[DarthGizka]

I agree with recyclebin2000 100%. I don't see why discerning gamers 'should stay away' - it's a fantastic game despite its flaws. And a lot of the flaws are unnecessary - due to sloppiness, thoughtlessness and general managerial (i.e. completely and utterly uninformed in the subject matter) type of thinking. Plus a general 'more media + assets, less game' tendency that started with DAO already, where things under the hood - i.e. not audio-visual in nature and hence less easily manager-tractable - where a bit shambolic. But since DAI is still a great game we had to buy it, and having bought it we have to ensure that Bioware knows which parts we thought worth paying a premium for and which not - lest they think they got away with strategies like 'more boobs, less effort' (DAO) for example.

[mickey6688]

I'm a critical fan, without question. For example, I have no bones about saying DA2 was a terrible, awful game. I also have several issues with DAI. HOWEVER, I think this is a great game. I have no problems running it on my PC, have not experienced one hangup or crash. There are issues with the controls and user interface, but I feel like the game is good enough that it overrides things I would find to be dealbreakers on lesser games.

 

I feel like the discrepancy is because, as we all know, the internet is home to extremes. People can convey their emotional state without any repercussions or concerns about social norms. Thus, an angry person gives a zero, and a happy person gives a ten. Neither are right, because they aren't looking at things objectively. That's why I don't let statements made here that drip with emotion affect my personal view of the game.

[Panda]

Ah also to say if one should buy the game or not, at this point it's easy:

 

PC (ultra) and new gen: Yes, though you might have bad luck and it might bug a lot.

PC (low to medium) and old gen: No, unless you are hardcore fan.

 

After bug and clitches have been fixed then I have to look situation again. I'm not usually critical fan at all but I can't stand the problems game is having on old gen.

[bclagge]

This game failed to meet certain expectations I had, but overall it's still a beautiful and intensely fun game.  You just have to take it for what it is... I think there's a philosophy of life in there somewhere.