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#51
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Posté 18 décembre 2014 - 11:18

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You know, I was already imagining this age for Hawke, I'm curious where there is evidence in the lore. Was it in Legacy? 

 

 

 

Well the thing is, Leandra tells Hawke that Revka had multiple children with magical talent. Also, when I played DA:O I had my Amell warden says she was born in Denerim.

 

The way I looked at it, Revka had three or so children with magical talent taken away from her by the time Amell Warden was born. She moved to Denerim before having her last child to get away from the noble Kirkwall embarrassing bull crap.

 

Interesting to also note, Amell Warden has the Amell last name. They don't take the father's last name. Like Hawke and their siblings do. To me this suggests that Revka and her husband had possibly divorced by the time Amell Warden came along and their father didn't want anything to do with another potential mage child. 

 

So actually, the Amell Warden can be younger than Hawke. 

That is incorrect, actually. The Warden has the option of telling that to the Mad Hermit, but it doesn't mean it's true.

As for the last name, I would guess that the reason the Amell has their mother's last name is either because the mother married another Amell, who was distantly related (it's even stated that nobles sometimes do this), or that the father wasn't from as prominent a family, so the Amell name was kept.


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Posté 18 décembre 2014 - 11:27

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i think my wardens and inquisitors are in their 20's.  since an elven mage inquisitor is not yet keeper of his/her clan, i presume that they would have to be rather young, maybe around early 20's at most.  romancing solas hasn't deterred me, despite knowing his age.  i usually have a thing with drastic age gaps, but somehow, a lot of bioware LI's are exempt to that rule......


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Posté 18 décembre 2014 - 11:50

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That is incorrect, actually. The Warden has the option of telling that to the Mad Hermit, but it doesn't mean it's true.

As for the last name, I would guess that the reason the Amell has their mother's last name is either because the mother married another Amell, who was distantly related (it's even stated that nobles sometimes do this), or that the father wasn't from as prominent a family, so the Amell name was kept.

 

I understand that what is told to the Hermit doesn't have to be true. I was just saying, the way I looked at it to explain if a player considers it true for one's personal story is that Revka left Kirkwall after having multiple children with magic.

 

Revka having multiple children all with magical abilities is a fact. Which allows room for the player to imagine Amell Warden at any age really. 

 

I did consider that the father wasn't from a prominent family so the name Amell was kept for the children, I just thought it conflicted with the fact Hawke himself wasn't a very prominent family name. But it is possible. Leandra doesn't seem to maintain Hawke's name.

 

I didn't consider a distant cousin marriage with the same last name, but probably because... 

 

1. The family was trying to get the magic out of their blood by marrying non-magical  blood lines into their own. Why marry an Amell to another Amell and risk that, even if they are distant cousins. Although it could explain why all of Revka's children had magical abilities.

 

2. Revka alone is the one blamed and starts the downfall of the family. This is why I thought that whoever married her divorced her after the series of magical children. He quickly disassociated himself from the Amell's, it wasn't that man's family name brought to complete ruin and he appears to  have saved face. I imagine his family didn't have a strong magical blood line, and he could have easily disassociated himself from the children by not allowing them to share his name. 


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Posté 22 décembre 2014 - 01:53

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I understand that what is told to the Hermit doesn't have to be true. I was just saying, the way I looked at it to explain if a player considers it true for one's personal story is that Revka left Kirkwall after having multiple children with magic.

 

Revka having multiple children all with magical abilities is a fact. Which allows room for the player to imagine Amell Warden at any age really. 

 

I did consider that the father wasn't from a prominent family so the name Amell was kept for the children, I just thought it conflicted with the fact Hawke himself wasn't a very prominent family name. But it is possible. Leandra doesn't seem to maintain Hawke's name.

 

I didn't consider a distant cousin marriage with the same last name, but probably because... 

 

1. The family was trying to get the magic out of their blood by marrying non-magical  blood lines into their own. Why marry an Amell to another Amell and risk that, even if they are distant cousins. Although it could explain why all of Revka's children had magical abilities.

 

2. Revka alone is the one blamed and starts the downfall of the family. This is why I thought that whoever married her divorced her after the series of magical children. He quickly disassociated himself from the Amell's, it wasn't that man's family name brought to complete ruin and he appears to  have saved face. I imagine his family didn't have a strong magical blood line, and he could have easily disassociated himself from the children by not allowing them to share his name. 

 

No, I recall the letter saying that it was Revka's fault, and that thereafter the family's good fortune just continued to plummet.

Honestly, I really wish BioWare would confirm/disconfirm this one. :b


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Posté 22 décembre 2014 - 02:02

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i think my wardens and inquisitors are in their 20's.  since an elven mage inquisitor is not yet keeper of his/her clan, i presume that they would have to be rather young, maybe around early 20's at most.  romancing solas hasn't deterred me, despite knowing his age.  i usually have a thing with drastic age gaps, but somehow, a lot of bioware LI's are exempt to that rule......

Is the First necessarily young? I thought the First was apprentice to the Keeper because they are to become the clan's next leader. Therefore, as long as the Keeper is alive, the First remains in that position. Meaning that, for example, a First could be 40 and their Keeper, 60.


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Posté 23 décembre 2014 - 03:18

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Guys i don't think you should see the timeline to fit your personal warden and hawke, but just the defulte warden and hawke


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Posté 23 décembre 2014 - 03:29

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She was 16 when she became empress, and twenty years later the events of The Masked Empire occur, making her 36 at the time, and 37 in Inquisition. This is also confirmed by David Gaider.

Light skinned people age quick....Unless they are Liliana.


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Posté 23 décembre 2014 - 03:31

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Yeah you're correct. Should have added that

Well, I rp as may Adaar being 10 at the time.


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Posté 23 décembre 2014 - 03:32

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I disagree. In Asunder it is stated that the mages in pretty much ever Circle but the one in Orlais had started rebelling. Cassandra, an Orlesian, went looking for Varric in 9:40, the same year mage-templar relations basically exploded. Even if that's not the case, I believe Cullen states that Cassandra recruited him fairly soon after the Kirkwall incident.

Still, I'll edit out that detail in case.

Cassandra is from Nivarra.


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Posté 23 décembre 2014 - 02:57

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Guys i don't think you should see the timeline to fit your personal warden and hawke, but just the defulte warden and hawke

No, I think it applies. Some things are a definite canon.


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Posté 23 décembre 2014 - 02:57

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Cassandra is from Nivarra.

Ah, right, my bad.


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Posté 23 décembre 2014 - 03:06

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My inquisitor Trevelyan is 16 or so. Pulling a Daenerys Targaryen here (not really, I know she was younger). Vivienne fits so well as motherly/tutoring figure for a mage. 


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Posté 23 décembre 2014 - 05:07

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Is the First necessarily young? I thought the First was apprentice to the Keeper because they are to become the clan's next leader. Therefore, as long as the Keeper is alive, the First remains in that position. Meaning that, for example, a First could be 40 and their Keeper, 60.

 

that is a fair point and i had considered that.  i guess i just prefer most of my characters to be young :)  i think all my elves are going to be in their 20's while my other characters will be perhaps late 20's to mid 30's.


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Posté 26 décembre 2014 - 06:34

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If someone can cite that thing with Trevelyan being 21 I'd be very happy. If not, that's cool, too. I just want an idea of whether or not I'm making Cassandra a cougar by romancing her. XD


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Posté 26 décembre 2014 - 09:09

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The fact that Cassandra is around 40 is what put me off romancing her. I mean, I like her as a character, but I've always imagined my canon human, male warrior to be fairly young (early to mid twenties), so romancing someone who's probably at least around 15+ years older than my character would be really weird and off-putting to me. In the end I plumped for Josephine because, not only is she adorable and her romance sweet, but she seems much closer to my Inquisitor's age (to me she appears to be somewhere in her mid to late twenties) so it feels much better to me.


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Posté 26 décembre 2014 - 11:16

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The fact that Cassandra is around 40 is what put me off romancing her. I mean, I like her as a character, but I've always imagined my canon human, male warrior to be fairly young (early to mid twenties), so romancing someone who's probably at least around 15+ years older than my character would be really weird and off-putting to me. In the end I plumped for Josephine because, not only is she adorable and her romance sweet, but she seems much closer to my Inquisitor's age (to me she appears to be somewhere in her mid to late twenties) so it feels much better to me.

Yeah, that's the same reason I had my Trevelyan romance Sera. Trevelyan is the youngest, and so is Sera (that we know of; she said ten years prior to Inquisition she was a kid, so I'd say early twenties at the most).


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Posté 27 décembre 2014 - 12:48

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My City Elven Warden was 20 at the start of the 5th Blight (being such a wild trouble-maker made it hard for her father to find a desirable match before then)| making her 30 by Inquisition.

DA2 makes it clear Hawke is about 24-26 by the start of the 5th Blight, so I imagine a solid 25 then, 35 by Inquisition.

My Elven Inquisitor is 18 at the explosion of the Conclave. (I imagine the hard work and responsibilities of day-to-day Dalish life - and the added leadership responsibilities of being trained as Keeper's First from a young age - made her emotionally mature more quickly than other 18-year-olds from other cultural backgrounds.)

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Posté 27 décembre 2014 - 03:03

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How many here made an inquisitor in their 50's or older?


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Posté 27 décembre 2014 - 07:20

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How many here made an inquisitor in their 50's or older?

Umm. Bw states the inquisitors age is from early 20's- mid 40's.


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Posté 27 décembre 2014 - 02:38

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Leliana is 26 at the beginning of origins according to the toolset. She also took shelter at the Lothering Shelter in 9:28. Furthermore Just because Adaia referred the "City-Elf Warden" as my child does not necessitate the child to be 2-5 years of age. I'd put her at mid-twenties in Origins and about mid-thirties in Inquisition. And Wynne could just have been talking down to Leliana as if she were only in her late teens which was probably what got her to respond as such. Leliana was also born in Orlais as she confirmed this when she said she had never set foot in Fereldan before and only considered herself Fereldan because her mother was from there. Since her mother moved there after the Orlesian occupation which was in 9:02 or 01 this makes it impossible for Leliana to be over 30 during the events of Origins.


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Posté 27 décembre 2014 - 03:38

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All my chars are min 38 max 41 an i dont particularly care if the game says otherwise, no way on this earth im playing a teen or a early 20's character thats just stopped sucking on there moms teat, if there one thing i like most about DA:I its the fact that most of the cast is more "mature"


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Posté 27 décembre 2014 - 04:46

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Leliana is 26 at the beginning of origins according to the toolset. She also took shelter at the Lothering Shelter in 9:28. Furthermore Just because Adaia referred the "City-Elf Warden" as my child does not necessitate the child to be 2-5 years of age. I'd put her at mid-twenties in Origins and about mid-thirties in Inquisition. And Wynne could just have been talking down to Leliana as if she were only in her late teens which was probably what got her to respond as such. Leliana was also born in Orlais as she confirmed this when she said she had never set foot in Fereldan before and only considered herself Fereldan because her mother was from there. Since her mother moved there after the Orlesian occupation which was in 9:02 or 01 this makes it impossible for Leliana to be over 30 during the events of Origins.

Toolset isn't canon.

Tabris says her mother died when s/he was a baby. "Child" does not suggest they are of any certain age. My friend recently had a baby, who she refers to as her child. As I recall, Leliana said her mother moved to Ferelden DURING Orlesian occupation. Also, a Divine that young would be EXTREMELY controversial. Cassandra's around forty, I assume Vivienne is around that age, so it would only make sense if Leliana is, as well.

And again, we can't forget about Tabris. No one's going to marry off their kid at age fifteen, and no way Leliana has a sexual relationship with Marjolaine when she's like, twelve. She's likely in her late teens at the very least, add ROUGHLY twenty to that, and she's at LEAST thirty-ish during Origins.


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Posté 27 décembre 2014 - 07:02

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I'm pretty sure that Hawke is a lot younger then 24 when the events of DA2 begin.

 

As for my Inquisitor, age 21.


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Posté 27 décembre 2014 - 08:34

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I'm pretty sure that Hawke is a lot younger then 24 when the events of DA2 begin.

 

As for my Inquisitor, age 21.

No, the age was pretty much confirmed since Cassandra left her family 25 years prior to Origins. She wasn't pregnant when she left, but she did say that she had Hawke shortly after, IIRC.


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Posté 27 décembre 2014 - 11:10

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Umm. Bw states the inquisitors age is from early 20's- mid 40's.

Where?


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