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[Savvie]

Those scores mean nothing to me. I've been enjoying the game a ton. I just think disgruntled people want to try to find a way to tear Bioware down which is really immature. DAI aside from a few problems is a great, solid RPG.

[Keithian]

The PC version of the game is suspect.

First, there are a lot of people having technical issues.  Whether or not this is the user's PC at fault or not, these guys are dinging the game.

 

Second, Bioware lied about the game.  It was made for PC Gamers, by PC Gamers, according to them.  Except anyone playing on a PC with a KB+Mouse realizes that is not the case within 15 minutes.  The UI is dogshit, a lazy console port.  The tac cam is anything but tactical.  Some people bought this game on a PC because of Bioware's empty promises, they are venting on metacritic.

Great games have critic and user scores within a point of each other.  Most all of Bioware's previous games are this way.  They lost their way with DA2.  ME3 followed suit and now we have DAI.  Everything before that?  Critics and fans alike loved.

Some of you are so paranoid. All this "They Lied" like this is Watergate or something. So dramatic. Its a good game on all platforms needing a little love on the PC which will happen with a little patience. Harness your anger elsewhere, you'll be a happier person.

[Keithian]

While I do believe that 10 is just as silly a rating as 0 for this game, I don't believe that they have equal weight. Someone who rates the game a 10 almost certainly has the game, but the same is not always true of the people who rate the game a 0. Some people won't buy anything that requires Origin, and others simply won't buy anything by EA(also applies to Ubisoft). So some unknown percentage of the 0 ratings are from people who have not played the game and never plan to for reasons unrelated to the game itself. This percentage could be either 0% or 100% but most likely falls between the two.

Now I can see why someone would want to post a low review as a political statement, but I personally find the practice to be scummy, whereas I find the fanboyism that leads to perfect reviews on a flawed product to simply be naive, sort of like kids who swear they're in love and get married, only to get divorced 2 years later because they have nothing in common other than thinking sex is fun.

I agree to an extent with what you wrote, but I think how people rate isn't universal. If you break things into categories, like graphics, stability, being totally bug free, meeting every expectation one might have, etc...NO game is a 10. However, if you base it on how much fun one is having, many are having the time of their life and to them that is a 10. Most people aren't over analytical critics. Many people see these bugs, desire for different controls, enhancements, a bigger nose...whatever it is but they put aside these things and are having a blast. To them thats a 10. Now if someone can't even literally play the game despite meeting minimum specs and they are trying to troubleshoot properly with updating drivers, defrag old non SSD drives, ensuring a clean install, turning off background processes, etc..well I guess for those a zero might be warranted because they can't even turn on the game..but that is probably a very very small percentage of folks who are posting zero for other reasons. 

[Darkly Tranquil]

Well said, Keithian.

I think some folk overestimate the ability of the average person to be objective and judge something on its actual merits. I'd wager many of those zero ratings are emotional reactions from players who are frustrated with the game and whose enjoyment of the game has been ruined as a result. The zeros are not indicative of the game itself, but of the player's experience playing it.

[Jackal19851111]

In my opinion the game just makes a horrible first impression, and in addition to problems with the PC version, lackluster features such as tactics system, gives gamers alot of reasons to hate the game. Once it opens up to Act II however you start seeing a reason behind collecting stuff, doing quests, leveling your party, and saving the world. For me the game went from 6 to 5 to 8/10, so the metacritic user reviews didn't surprise me one bit.

 

I got the game on release day, but still haven't finished. The amount of content and the quality of gameplay post act I easily deserves at least an 8/10 IMO

[Keithian]

I have it on PC and PS4 and PC looks a lot better to me, even though my graphics card is pretty bad (HD7850, soon to be replaced by a 980) but it could just be the TV I have the PS4 hooked up to is simply not as sharp as my monitor. All I know is it feels a lot better on PC, but that could just be my unconscious PC bias showing.

I'm not sure that there are going to be 980ti's or 990s, from what I have read, 980 was pretty much pushing the limit of Maxwell as it was. Until the new 20nm architecture chips hit the market, I think 980 might be it for Nvidia. Of course, AMD have started the rumour mill about R9 380, 390, and 390x, which are allegedly going to launch some time in February, so there is that option upcoming if you're not on a particular team.

Trust me, we will see another card soon enough :-) lol..for just the reason you wrote about AMD :-) 

[phantomrachie]

The PC version of the game is suspect.

First, there are a lot of people having technical issues.  Whether or not this is the user's PC at fault or not, these guys are dinging the game.

 

Second, Bioware lied about the game.  It was made for PC Gamers, by PC Gamers, according to them.  Except anyone playing on a PC with a KB+Mouse realizes that is not the case within 15 minutes.  The UI is dogshit, a lazy console port.  The tac cam is anything but tactical.  Some people bought this game on a PC because of Bioware's empty promises, they are venting on metacritic.

Great games have critic and user scores within a point of each other.  Most all of Bioware's previous games are this way.  They lost their way with DA2.  ME3 followed suit and now we have DAI.  Everything before that?  Critics and fans alike loved.

 

While I think that the PC version might need some love for some people, BioWare didn't lie, they tried something new in terms of controls. There is nothing wrong with trying something new, it works for some people it doesn't work for others.

 

There are plenty of people who like the PC controls.

 

I just hope that this doesn't put them off trying new things again.

 

I think that is has become cool to hate on BioWare and not even DA:I, which is a great game can overcome that. They have lost the fanboy idolization, that worship as now gone to Cd Projekt Red, it is now they that can do no wrong.

 

Half the people I come across online who hate on DA2, clearly never even played it.

 

BioWare make great games, games that give me shivers, games that make me laugh & cry, games with great characters.

 

That is good enough for me, I can't say the same about any other game developer at the moment.

[dekarserverbot]

I think that score system is pretty useless everywhere...

 

A single 1 of 10 tells me absolutely nothing of what is ACTUALLY WRONG with the game... i preffer to do the good vs bad points comparision instead. And in fact i did in spanish

[Rasande]

Well said, Keithian.

I think some folk overestimate the ability of the average person to be objective and judge something on its actual merits. I'd wager many of those zero ratings are emotional reactions from players who are frustrated with the game and whose enjoyment of the game has been ruined as a result. The zeros are not indicative of the game itself, but of the player's experience playing it.

 

Precisely, infact i'd bet it hasn't even been ruined and many if not most of the people who voted 0 kept playing and maby even enjoyed it. They're just upset right now and go and throw a hissyfit. Often after experiencing a crash that keeps them from playing a game they acually like.

 

Many people who vote 0's in general, not only DA:I, do so beacuse some bug or technical difficulties which is just silly.

Vamprie-The Masquerade:Bloodlines is one of the most unpolished, bugridden messes i've ever played and it's one of my favorite games.

[Johanna]

That's odd, I'm on the PC and apparently I don't appreciate how broken the PC UI is and how much it ruins the game either. I'm enjoying myself quite a bit. The very few serious complaints I have will, no doubt, be patched quite soon. I give it a resounding thumbs up!

My partner is playing on a PC and is having the time of his life. He said the controls take some getting used to, but once he got them sorted it was no big deal. As for me, I'm using our new PS4 and my experience is above reproach. For me (and for my dear partner), it's honest-to-the-Maker better than Origins, and we are positively rabid for Origins.


I can't believe how much I love this game. 9.5/10, easy.

[Jenaimarre]

No one is discouraged by low metacritic scores.

No one.

If there are people that believe those user scores are genuine, then I have a leprechaun map to the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow available for purchase.

I would like to see that map NOW, DKR. SHOW IT TO ME!

[DragonKingReborn]

I would like to see that map NOW, DKR. SHOW IT TO ME!

It's yours for just six easy payments of $49.99 plus shipping and handling. Call now and we'll also include a life sized leprechaun!

**map may or may not exist. Leprechaun may or may not be drunk Irish dwarf. No guarantees, no money back**

[errantknight]

People on metacritic are terrible at reviewing, lol. Imagine if professional reviewers gave a game a zero or one because they got a bug or disagreed with one aspect of the game. It's laughable and completely useless as feedback.

[spinachdiaper]

PC gamers need to embrace the future of gaming....

 

 

Controller > Keyboard & Mouse...

[JCAP]

PC gamers need to embrace the future of gaming....

 

 

Controller > Keyboard & Mouse...

 

 

Seriously now, it depends on the game. Some games are better with controller, others are better with KB+M. And let's not make a flamewar about this, ok?

[Scoobydooby]

PC gamers need to embrace the future of gaming....

 

 

Controller > Keyboard & Mouse...

 

Haha that's cute. Its also immensely incorrect, but cute. 

 

 

While I think that the PC version might need some love for some people, BioWare didn't lie, 

 

Yes, they did. 

 

You may not think so, and that is your viewpoint on it, but they did. PC Gamers were told that this game was being made with them specifically in mind, and its very obvious that this was not true. By saying this, it helped to ensure that pc gamers would pre-order or buy the game on release, which many players did. 

 

I have yet to play the game for even an hour as I refuse to play it with it stuttering all over the place, but that's my own situation.

 

Proclaiming however that it was not deceitful is flat out wrong. Bioware clearly and succinctly made claims to pc gamers about the game that ended up be lies. I don't hate bioware for it, I just don't appreciate being lied to, and I certainly don't appreciate how users on this forum is trying to act like its no big deal.. if you were a PC gamer like I am, you would think differently I assure you. 

 

Console players paid full price for a game that works and is optimized for controller

PC  players paid full price for a game that works for many, and doesn't work for many and is NOT optimized for keyboard/mouse, which pretty much any PC gamer will use as their primary control method. 

[Munktor]

I figured people are intelligent enough to watch one of the many 30+ minute gameplay vids and just decide from that.

 

Who even needs reviews when so many attention starved kids post huge streams of games they play?

[AlexMBrennan]

No one is discouraged by low metacritic scores.

If only that were true - but I'm sure the developers won't mind losing their bonus due to low metacritic scores

[NUM13ER]

I seen one user review give the console version of the game 0/10, not due to it being awful, but because he felt the PC version was better and people should buy it.

That's the sort of "logic" you'll find among far too many metacritic users. They don't care about actually giving a review, as in pros and cons, they only care about lowering the user score as much as possible or counteracting the overly negative scores.

Judging by such reviews, it's either a flawless masterpiece or the worst game ever made. It's laughable anyone can take it seriously when it's that broken. 

[Degs29]

If I could sit here liking this thread a thousand times, I would.

 

I couldn't agree more.  User ratings on metacritic have become a complete farce.  It's never bothered me so much as it does with DA:I, simply because DA:I is a fantastic game. 

 

Not optimized for mouse and keyboard to your liking? 0 

A few crashes to desktop?  0

Lack of tactics?  0

Don't have a computer that can run it adequately?  0

A flawed tactical cam?  0

 

It doesn't matter to such people how great the game is besides its flaws.  They're fixated on a few issues, and can't see the forest for the trees.  Lets face it, these users couldn't give a **** about posting an accurate review of the game; they just want to crap all over it.  Never mind that some people actually use user reviews and the overall user rating to make buying decisions. 

 

I only half trust professional reviews, and I trust user reviews even less.  I still think anyone giving this fantastic game, the best in the series, anything less than a 5 isn't even trying to be honest.

[RVallant]

What's wrong with them? Disregarding XboX users, who always tend to downvote anything that isn't the latest FPS, the user scores seem about right.* I may or may not be joking, don't flame me!

 

7/10 for the PS4, which is what the game deserves, it's good, not ground-breaking or GOTY material.

5/10 for the PC version, which is about right given the tremendous amount of negative feedback about the PC set up for the game.

 

If anything the Critic reviews are too high, 89 (so 9/10) isn't right, but at least 89 - 7 isn't as much as a gap as 80+ - 4 (Dragon Age 2, lol at the critic reviews giving 90+ for that, seriously.)

[Keithian]

What's wrong with them? Disregarding XboX users, who always tend to downvote anything that isn't the latest FPS, the user scores seem about right.* I may or may not be joking, don't flame me!

 

7/10 for the PS4, which is what the game deserves, it's good, not ground-breaking or GOTY material.

5/10 for the PC version, which is about right given the tremendous amount of negative feedback about the PC set up for the game.

 

If anything the Critic reviews are too high, 89 (so 9/10) isn't right, but at least 89 - 7 isn't as much as a gap as 80+ - 4 (Dragon Age 2, lol at the critic reviews giving 90+ for that, seriously.)

you forgot to say IN MY OPINION (IMO), because many of us totally disagree with you and feel the critic reviews along with the thousands giving it almost 5 stars at the PS4 store are more in line with reality.

[Shryke]

After having read through almost all of the Metacritic reviews for this game, I have noticed a pattern.

 

Almost all of the positive reviews (with scores of 8 through 10) mention graphics first or second. Storytelling is also mentioned. Big, open world is praised. Combat and other gameplay elements are rarely mentioned.

Almost all of the negative and lukewarm reviews (0 through 7) mention the combat first or second. Storytelling is not often denigrated. Dialogue often is. Banality of quests and PC controls are universally loathed. 

 

I have now formed a perfect picture of who this game is made for:

   1. Those who don't care for tactical combat

   2. Those who don't care about good/interesting writing

   3. Those who don't play using mouse and keyboard

   4. Those who want a big, open world to explore.

   5. Those not bothered by unimaginative fetch quests.

 

Please let me know if I have gotten this wrong, but this seems to be the general climate.

[Han Master]

Those scores will make sure PC players will think twice before buying the game, which is good.