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[ChaosMarky]

Guys, if you find the game nice, try to rate the game in Amazon (or any other online site you prefer). Give it the score you see fit it deserves, and a review that helps people how to approach the game.

I noticed too many haters bringing its rating down.. its sad, really.

[Shryke]

Careful for what you wish for - the "haters" are who will help ensure you get a better game next time.

[Han Master]

US haters are the ones that will make sure games will be better next time they are launch. Just looking at the story content of DAI and compared it with DA 2.

[xxAntag0nisTxx]

Metacritic is a joke full stop. User reviews are mostly one end of each extreme, either overly glowing or downright poisonous opinions. Each clouded with an excess of bias.

You get the odd decent user reviewer, but in general it's a waste of time.

The gaming media itself is almost as hard to sift through given the terrible review skills of many so called games journalists. A great example was a review I had read a few days ago criticising DA:I for RPG elements... It is an RPG, certain aspects of the genre are what define it as a whole. The reviewer was so utterly biased against RPG"s that I am fairly certain he gave me Ebola.

[Han Master]

User review > critics review, at least we don't get paid by EA to write something good.

[Shryke]

Reviews absolutely tend towards the ends of the spectrum.

 

But statistically? Taken over hundreds of ratings? The end number is usually much more on point than critics' reviews. Probably the same score that would result even if people rated much more rationally and fairly. Funny how it works, really.

 

Try it with a game you thought was kinda crap, but got great reviews from critics (most AAA games). End user score is usually more accurate.

[BammBamm]

US haters are the ones that will make sure games will be better next time they are launch. Just looking at the story content of DAI and compared it with DA 2.

 

yeah this year has clearly shown how much influence the haters had, just perfect polished games released this year.......oh wait. even small developers making kickstarters and early access scam their customers by the way, there is a difference between constructive critics and haters, the first gives valuable feedback the other buries it under hyperbole bullshit.

[Han Master]

yeah this year has clearly shown how much influence the haters had, just perfect polished games released this year.......oh wait. even small developers making kickstarters and early access scam their customers by the way, there is a difference between constructive critics and haters, the first gives valuable feedback the other buries it under hyperbole bullshit.

Doubt it, skyrim was good so there were more fanboys than haters in metacrtic and that is why it's user review is high. If PC DAI was the same the user score would be high as well but this is obvious not true, DA 2 user score is the most accurate one.

[Zorlagius]

User review > critics review, at least we don't get paid by EA to write something good.

I`d say user reviews are accurate when population is not too invested in the game. Some folks worship companies like they belong into some kind of cult or hate them like they were out of sulphur pits of hell. It`s extremely disturbing.

[BammBamm]

Doubt it, skyrim was good so there were more fanboys than haters in metacrtic and that is why it's user review is high. If PC DAI was the same the user score would be high as well but this is obvious not true, DA 2 user score is the most accurate one.

 

pretty sure nearly every ea game nowaday is hated because ea bashing is "in". metacritic is the stupidest thing ever, a playground for trolls and white knights which has nothing to do with constructive critic or reality, everybody with a healthy mind knows this. you want to make a picture of a game? listen to people that TALK about the "goes" and "no goes"of the game and dont look on a stupid metascore. you want to change the industry? DONT PREORDER! and what does the gaming community? throws money to the developers in kickstarter and early access. but yeah, the haters will save us

[Han Master]

pretty sure nearly every ea game nowaday is hated because ea bashing is "in". metacritic is the stupidest thing ever, a playground for trolls and white knights which has nothing to do with constructive critic or reality, everybody with a healthy mind knows this. you want to make a picture of a game? listen to people that TALK about the "goes" and "no goes"of the game and dont look on a stupid metascore. you want to change the industry? DONT PREORDER! and what does the gaming community? throws money to the developers in kickstarter and early access. but yeah, the haters will save us

As I had said if the game is good there would be more fanboys bashing the haters in metacritic and so the user score would be high. If the game is not good there would be more haters than fanboys that will bring the score down.

[Itkovian]

That's odd, I'm on the PC and apparently I don't appreciate how broken the PC UI is and how much it ruins the game either. I'm enjoying myself quite a bit. The very few serious complaints I have will, no doubt, be patched quite soon. I give it a resounding thumbs up!

 

Same here. I'm 60 hours in and I have no problem with the controls. Heck, a friend of mine had trouble with them at first,but the moment he stopped trying to play it like it was DAO it just clicked. It's a new game, with new controls, and once you realize that they work just fine.

 

The main issue, IMO, is I think they needed to up the visibility on some of the controls. Simple things like "F" to interact and spacebar to select should be made more obvious. But once you know about these, anyone saying the game is better on controller is just plain wrong. Mouse selection alone is a massive improvement in tactical view, as opposed to with a controller.

 

While there definitely are bugs with the PC version (which, to be honest, is completely normal. Welcome to PC gaming), the controls are not an issue (well, ok, clearly since so many complaints they ARE an issue, but it's more a communication and expectation issue rather than an actual problem with how the controls work on PC).

[Keithian]

As I had said if the game is good there would be more fanboys bashing the haters in metacritic and so the user score would be high. If the game is not good there would be more haters than fanboys that will bring the score down.

that is simply not true. Some sites develop a reputation over time and the audiences change. Fans go elsewhere. That is exactly what happens at sites like mmorpg.com where once there was constructive debate in forums...now people see all the bashing with just about every new release and so people flock to the fan sites like reddit or the main site, etc...so sorry...thinking a small sample of .001% of those actually playing means anything by looking at metacritic is dellusional.

[Itkovian]

I have now formed a perfect picture of who this game is made for:

   1. Those who don't care for tactical combat

   2. Those who don't care about good/interesting writing

   3. Those who don't play using mouse and keyboard

   4. Those who want a big, open world to explore.

   5. Those not bothered by unimaginative fetch quests.

 

Please let me know if I have gotten this wrong, but this seems to be the general climate.

 

That is a wrong picture.

 

1. Combat is very tactical, at least at higher difficulty. Playing at Hard I find myself using the tac cam a lot and being just as tactical as I was in DAO.

 

2. The writing is absolutely top notch. Some of the best I've seen from Bioware. Those who think otherwise have spent too much time doing side quest and ignoring the main story. There's some _very_ powerful stuff early on.

 

3. I play mouse and keyboard, works great, but different from DAO. As far as I can tell that's the main issue: people expecting DAO controls and getting something very different. But the controls aren't any worse, and claims that controller is better are false. Using the mouse provides more capabilities and options than a controller (for example, in tac cam you can click anywhere on the screen to give overs, and aren't limited by the ground marker which is all you command using a controller).

 

4. Well, there's a point there. Massive maps, lots of exploration. I guess for some that's a downside?

 

5. There are fetch quests, but they're pretty cunningly designed to get you exploring the large maps, which itself uncovers some really good storytelling and world setting.

 

Serioiusly, it's a bloody good game. Better than DAO in my opinion. I'm especially impressed with how our actions affects the world, there are some significant changes based on your actions (and not just in the storytelling, but the actual areas as well).

[BammBamm]

As I had said if the game is good there would be more fanboys bashing the haters in metacritic and so the user score would be high. If the game is not good there would be more haters than fanboys that will bring the score down.

 

still doesnt say anything about the game. i really like the game, have no bigger problems with controls or bugs and still doesnt vote on metaidiotic because i couldnt care less. but i informed myself about the game before release, watched streams and reviews, knew about the clunky controls and the controler friendly menues, so no reason to feel betrayed about it (which doesnt mean there is no room for improvement)

[Han Master]

that is simply not true. Some sites develop a reputation over time and the audiences change. Fans go elsewhere. That is exactly what happens at sites like mmorpg.com where once there was constructive debate in forums...now people see all the bashing with just about every new release and so people flock to the fan sites like reddit or the main site, etc...so sorry...thinking a small sample of .001% of those actually playing means anything by looking at metacritic is dellusional.

And yet skyrim still has a good user score, does looks like this reasoning is flawed.

[Han Master]

still doesnt say anything about the game. i really like the game, have no bigger problems with controls or bugs and still doesnt vote on metaidiotic because i couldnt care less. but i informed myself about the game before release, watched streams and reviews, knew about the clunky controls and the controler friendly menues, so no reason to feel betrayed about it (which doesnt mean there is no room for improvement)

All because a minority of PC users doesn't have no or big issues with the game doesn't mean the rest will keep their mouths shut.

[BammBamm]

After having read through almost all of the Metacritic reviews for this game, I have noticed a pattern.

 

Almost all of the positive reviews (with scores of 8 through 10) mention graphics first or second. Storytelling is also mentioned. Big, open world is praised. Combat and other gameplay elements are rarely mentioned.

Almost all of the negative and lukewarm reviews (0 through 7) mention the combat first or second. Storytelling is not often denigrated. Dialogue often is. Banality of quests and PC controls are universally loathed. 

 

I have now formed a perfect picture of who this game is made for:

   1. Those who don't care for tactical combat

   2. Those who don't care about good/interesting writing

   3. Those who don't play using mouse and keyboard

   4. Those who want a big, open world to explore.

   5. Those not bothered by unimaginative fetch quests.

 

Please let me know if I have gotten this wrong, but this seems to be the general climate.

 

lol didnt see this horrendous bullshit, so i comment it now

 

1. yeah dont play on noob mode and you will end up in tactical all the time because its necessary. and lol just because dao had a tactical mode doesnt mean you had a deep tactical experience. if you want to play real tactical play f.e. age of wonders 3 in multiplayer and not a rpg with a taunt mechanic,

2. there at least the same grade of good writing and story in dai as in dao. there is just a lot of more and that is filled with filler stuff, this doent make the amount of the meaningfull things less

3. playing on mouse and keyboard all the time mostly in tactical and have no problems. how can it be that a elite dao player have so much problems with a view controls? i mean, its not rocket science, its just a few pushes on the keyboard

4. give you that

5. when you like exploring you do most of the fetch quests as a sideline, so no reason to complain about it.

[BammBamm]

And yet skyrim still has a good user score, does looks like this reasoning is flawed.

 

and vanilla skyrim was at least as "bad" as dai is. buggy, bad performance, memory crashes, controller ui, filler quests, console optimized etc but it was not EA! which exactly shows the idiocy of metacritic. line of argument finished

[BammBamm]

All because a minority of PC users doesn't have no or big issues with the game doesn't mean the rest will keep their mouths shut.

 

minority of pc users? all i see are a view hundreds spamming the forums about it (metacritic is ignored entirely because of possibilty to multi account). alone in the us dai sold over 80000 boxed sets alone, so im pretty sure the shitstorm would be way bigger when a majority would have bigger problems with the game. nobody wants you to stop critic, there are surely reason to do so, but dont be a hater or a drama queen and try to justify it with making the gaming industry a better place in the future while you are buying games you arent satisfied with.....lol

[Emonthepm]

Just as there are trolls that vote 0 there are trolls that vote 10.

 

After a few weeks and a thousand reviews you get a proper Average.

 

Considering it's a bad console port, I'd rate it a 6.

[Han Master]

As I said if the game is good the user score would be better, people who don't agree with that are just fanatic fanboys who can't believe most gamers don't shared their views of the game.

[BammBamm]

As I said if the game is good the user score would be better, people who don't agree with that are just fanatic fanboys who can't believe most gamers don't shared their views of the game.

 

hey at least the "fanatic fanboys" bought a game they enjoy

[Han Master]

hey at least the "fanatic fanboys" bought a game they enjoy

And yet they don't like most users giving it a bad review, so unsurprising.