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[BammBamm]

Divinity Original Sin has pretty good user scores on Metacritic..... So the issue here is with DAI or the so called haters who are giving bad reviews ?

 

to be honest, dos community is full of fanboys. not only they startet a shitstorm on every review with bad scores (sometimes justified because you could clearly see the reviewer didnt play the game), even normal constructive critic was swarmed by people telling you "go play call of duty, kid". trolls and fanboys are a problem and thats the reason why metacritic is stupid

[Cyonan]

Really any number rating is useless to try and judge a video game by. People are going to rate it differently for entirely different reasons.

 

You need to actually read reviews that aren't just "couldn't romance dragon 0/10" or "got to bang Cullen 10/10". Sometimes user reviews can go deeper than that, but most of them are poorly written, done by haters/fanboys and are horribly biased, or have false information.

 

It's better to find a few actual reviewers whose opinions frequently line up with your own that don't fall into any of the above issues.

[Danoniero]

Maybe few years back It was legit but now Metacritic is the worst site if you want some game insight, im really suprised that people are still looking at this site, there are too many people that will give a game 10/10 or 0/10 after 5 minutes of playing, really pointless. If anyone is deciding buying a game by meta score than I feel sorry for him/her

[His Majesty Lord Crash]

to be honest, dos community is full of fanboys. not only they startet a shitstorm on every review with bad scores (sometimes justified because you could clearly see the reviewer didnt play the game), even normal constructive critic was swarmed by people telling you "go play call of duty, kid". trolls and fanboys are a problem and thats the reason why metacritic is stupid

 

So it's basically the same as with DAI here or on metacritic. For every critical review or comment there are at least a few fanboys disagreeing and stating that DAI was definitely the best game of 2014 no matter what, usually completely ignoring every critical arguments about game design...

 

People can read and think on their own. They don't need someone telling us that "metacritic user scores were a joke". Reality is that some of them are definitely over the top and rarely helpful while others are indeed serious and very helpful. Everyone having at least a bare minimum of intelligence already knows that. Fanboys and haters who have no interest in a critical or serious discussion are everywhere, not only on metacritic, and surely they are part of almost every game community as long as the attention is bi enough. But usually you can identify pure hate or fanboy comments and reviews pretty quickly. You only need basic reading and comprehension skills for that, requirements a minor school kid should already possess...

[BammBamm]

So it's basically the same as with DAI here or on metacritic. For every critical review or comment there are at least a few fanboys disagreeing and stating that DAI was definitely the best game of 2014 no matter what, usually completely ignoring every critical arguments about game design...

 

People can read and think on their own. They don't need someone telling us that "metacritic user scores were a joke". Reality is that some of them are definitely over the top and rarely helpful while others are indeed serious and very helpful. Everyone having at least a bare minimum of intelligence already knows that. Fanboys and haters who have no interest in a critical or serious discussion are everywhere, not only on metacritic, and surely they are part of almost every game community as long as the attention is bi enough. But usually you can identify pure hate or fanboy comments and reviews pretty quickly. You only need basic reading and comprehension skills for that, requirements a minor school kid should already possess...

 

but you dont know anything by watching an average userscore, and thats the whole reason of metacritic. really no one would look at metacritic when he wants to inform himself properly about a game.

btw looking at a little gameplay on youtube/twitch says more than dozens of reviews (professionals or customers), you would have known the kind of quests in da:i, you would have known about controler optimized ui, no healing magic, dumped down tactics etc. so if you want a proove that a lot of people arent able to read and think on their own just read the forum.

[Elhanan]

So it's basically the same as with DAI here or on metacritic. For every critical review or comment there are at least a few fanboys disagreeing and stating that DAI was definitely the best game of 2014 no matter what, usually completely ignoring every critical arguments about game design...
 
People can read and think on their own. They don't need someone telling us that "metacritic user scores were a joke". Reality is that some of them are definitely over the top and rarely helpful while others are indeed serious and very helpful. Everyone having at least a bare minimum of intelligence already knows that. Fanboys and haters who have no interest in a critical or serious discussion are everywhere, not only on metacritic, and surely they are part of almost every game community as long as the attention is bi enough. But usually you can identify pure hate or fanboy comments and reviews pretty quickly. You only need basic reading and comprehension skills for that, requirements a minor school kid should already possess...

Or one may go to another site where the extremists actually own the game, so their opinions might have greater validity and merit. And am uncertain if the extreme votes on metacritic do offset each other, as the site uses flawed algorithms to create totals.

Recommend going elsewhere.

[vnth]

*sigh* The score isnt supposed to be taken at face value. It is meant to expose any significant problem the game may have. it is precisely because people are whiny and easy to hate that make MT so accurate. Whether or not you agree with these so called problems is entirely up to you. On the contrary, it is the professional reviews are are a joke. Critics are not invested in the game and dont even have enough time to play it, and not to mention other unsavory practices. They consistently give high score to undeserving AAA titles. If it is up to them things like the ME3 ending would never have come to light.

[Elhanan]

*sigh* The score isnt supposed to be taken at face value. It is meant to expose any significant problem the game may have. it is precisely because people are whiny and easy to hate that make MT so accurate. Whether or not you agree with these so called problems is entirely up to you. On the contrary, it is the professional reviews are are a joke. Critics are not invested in the game and dont even have enough time to play it, and not to mention other unsavory practices. They consistently give high score to undeserving AAA titles. If it is up to them things like the ME3 ending would never have come to light.

If the light that is referenced is the one that was shining immediately upon release, or possibly before, I recommend other sites of illumination. And again, some or many of those with a light did not pay for that light; simply voted and reviewed without proper credentials.

And for the record, I quite enjoy ME3; even content with the original conclusions, so those shouting were not speaking for me then either.

[atlantico]

Well, if I was giving this game a score, I'd give it a solid 7 out of 10. 

 

I bought it after patch 2 and I'm playing it at 1440p on ultra details (except I turn AA off, because I don't like AA) and it runs smooth and runs fast. 

 

There are no complaints on game stability or performance, except loading times. They are loooong. 

 

The UI is terrible. It is so bad that I dread every time I have to use the inventory. That's not good. 

Tactical view is not presentable, but usable. Characters look OK, even very good until they emote. Then something horrible happens to their face.

There are bugs, here and there, but on the whole - not bad, bug-wise. No game breaking bugs. 

 

I'm playing this on an AMD FX8350 with 2xRadeon HD7950s (3GB VRAM) and 16GB RAM and I use Mantle. That's more than enough for DA:I

 

I'd recommend the game, as a spiritual sequel to KOTOR.

[vnth]

If the light that is referenced is the one that was shining immediately upon release, or possibly before, I recommend other sites of illumination. And again, some or many of those with a light did not pay for that light; simply voted and reviewed without proper credentials.

And for the record, I quite enjoy ME3; even content with the original conclusions, so those shouting were not speaking for me then either.

You don't need any credential to offer your opinion, or to point out what you think is wrong with a game. And why do people have to scour pages and pages of reviews to find something so simple? Of all the professional reviews, how many of them mention that the DAI control for PC is *******. How many simply review the game on console because it is easier for them? 

 

People are speaking for themselves, not for anyone else. As I said, whether you agree with the complaints or not is entirely up to you. Some people hated it and think that that should be mentioned, and judging on widespread complaints, it seems like they are happened to be correct. Would you like them silenced? 

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[robertthebard]

*sigh* The score isnt supposed to be taken at face value. It is meant to expose any significant problem the game may have. it is precisely because people are whiny and easy to hate that make MT so accurate. Whether or not you agree with these so called problems is entirely up to you. On the contrary, it is the professional reviews are are a joke. Critics are not invested in the game and dont even have enough time to play it, and not to mention other unsavory practices. They consistently give high score to undeserving AAA titles. If it is up to them things like the ME3 ending would never have come to light.

What significant problem with a game can someone have that's never actually played it? So anyone mad enough that the Warden wasn't showing up could, despite not buying the game because no Warden, got and write a relevant review/score for a game they never bought? This is the problem with Metacritic. You don't have to have any knowledge about the game to give it a score, just an account at metacritic. Since that is true, the site is worthless for any reason. If they had a requirement that you actually have the game, and have played it, it might get closer to relevance, but since it doesn't require anything, there's no way to trust what they have to say.

[Elhanan]

User Reviews should consider having actual users review the games. Thus, proper creds.

The site, the scores, and the math used are all flawed. Somewhere else is recommended.

[vnth]

What significant problem with a game can someone have that's never actually played it? So anyone mad enough that the Warden wasn't showing up could, despite not buying the game because no Warden, got and write a relevant review/score for a game they never bought? This is the problem with Metacritic. You don't have to have any knowledge about the game to give it a score, just an account at metacritic. Since that is true, the site is worthless for any reason. If they had a requirement that you actually have the game, and have played it, it might get closer to relevance, but since it doesn't require anything, there's no way to trust what they have to say.

Let me put it this way. If you want to find out the quality of a waste disposal service, you can either trust a professional pay reviewer, or you can trust your neighbor who actually use the service. Who you should trust is up to you.

[robertthebard]

Let me put it this way. If you want to find out the quality of a waste disposal service, you can either trust a professional pay reviewer, or you can trust your neighbor who actually use the service. Who you should trust is up to you.

Yeah, that's a really good analogy, isn't it?

However, I have just about the same chance of getting a legitimate review from my neighbor about DA I as I do metacritic, he doesn't play it either.

[magicalpoop]

I'd say the game is better than DA2, not sure about DA:O. The story in DA:I is superior, but the actual content? I don't know. 

I really, really, really hate the MMO aspects of the game "GO GRIND REPUTATION FOR THIS ELF PERSON!". I grinded out the hinterlands before I finished the major choice between Templars and Mages and in retrospect - that was a mistake.

I went on finish a lot of inner circle quests and a lot them had bad scaling and static loot tables/boss levels. Fighting a mob of creatures 5-8 levels under you is boring, what's worse is some of the monsters did scale but not their loot. Level 16 rebel spellbinder giving me 7 Gold? Awesome.

I'd give the game a solid 8/10, no regrets buying on full retail at launch but I think it could have been better...and less MMO and more reaction based quests please. Sooo many of the quests were total filler...ughh..

[papercut_ninja]

As has been pointed out, the haters who give the game a 0 and the fanboys who give it a 10 does not statistically cancel each other out. If you have 1000 haters who give the game a 0, and 1000 fanboys who give the game a 10 the average score is 5. If you add 1000 balanced reviews that score somewhere between 5 and 10 with an average of 7,5, that only brings the average up to 6 ((1000x0) + (1000x10) + (1000x7,5))/3000.

 

So the more polarized the userbase and discussion around the game is, the more the average scores will be drifting towards 5,0.

[vnth]

Yeah, that's a really good analogy, isn't it?However, I have just about the same chance of getting a legitimate review from my neighbor about DA I as I do metacritic, he doesn't play it either.

A singlw troll may be hard to detect, but if your entire neighborhood have the same complaints, chances are they may be right. im not trying to convince you of anything. I just find myself agreeing with mt most of the time.

[Scerene]

if you ignore  the scores and just read the reviews most of them make some valid points and the "decently" written ones all repeat the same things. Ugh people, seriously    So many whine about huge scores given for games they dont like insisting reviewers have been payed , but then when a game they love receives honest negative reviews from other people who have played the game then they are just "haters" and "trolls". I dont agree with the numerical scores, and its obvious people are posting them out of spite, but the things they mention are valid complaints, or are you telling me that 100s upon 100s of people(those that were mostly serious in tone and wrote more than a couple of lines explaining their thoughts) all decided to bring up similar issues and have similar opinions on the game in a conspiracy -just- to spite bioware,, because -none- of it could -possibly- be true!   Btw wouldnt you rather hear these types of things yourself, in the future? isnt it better that there are those who are willing to speak honestly about a games flaws without a a financial stake or anything else in it? Or would you rather read every single glowing review of every game... oh thats right until you come across a game with a score that is too high in your opinion, and are "angry" that nobody honestly pointed out the games flaws. None of the "professional" reviewers of the pc copies mentioned the myriad of issues associated with it,  among them, the glaringly obvious one being the control issues for melee classes.

[Akka le Vil]

That's the problem with cherry picking a post to comment on isn't it? If you'd bother to read the rest of it, you'd be able to see what I was actually saying, or, if you really do need sites like metacritic, perhaps you wouldn't? Instead of slamming me, you more or less just bore out what I was trying to say in my post, so thanks for proving my point?

1) If you don't want to be "cherry-picked", don't start your post with a tired and retarded cliché.

 

2) Despite the above-mentioned retarded cliché, I actually bothered to read, and it was just a bit of posturing and a long rant about how you missed DA2 because of reviews, and the conclusion being that reviews on a whole are useless. How insightful.

The entire point of reading a review is to get an idea about how the game is through the experience of others. It might fit your own tastes or not, but THAT part is where you use your own opinion (that is, trusting the reviews are relevant enough to guide your decision).

Shouting "I make up my own mind" in a thread about reviews doesn't make you some kind of übermench, it just makes you comically miss the entire point of reviews.

 

 

*sigh* The score isnt supposed to be taken at face value. It is meant to expose any significant problem the game may have. it is precisely because people are whiny and easy to hate that make MT so accurate. Whether or not you agree with these so called problems is entirely up to you. On the contrary, it is the professional reviews are are a joke. Critics are not invested in the game and dont even have enough time to play it, and not to mention other unsavory practices. They consistently give high score to undeserving AAA titles. If it is up to them things like the ME3 ending would never have come to light.

 

Exactly.

[keyip]

 

Exactly.

 

Exactly wrong you mean. If you need to redefine the purpose behind a review score to validate the site knock yourself out, but don't complain when it becomes the laughing stock of the internet.

[Farangbaa]

I'm just going to leave this here:

 

[katokires]

I keep seeing posts with folks referencing metacritic and even being discouraged as a result of the user scores and deciding to hold off based on those scores. One might get the impression if you were to go to metacritic and look at the user scores for the PC, PS4 and XBOX one that the game is horrible with the pS4 version being the best of the 3. Then you go start reading the user reviews and there are so many folks with duplicate accounts putting zero or not using any logic with their score.

 

Then you go to the Playstation store which has more than double the amount of PC reviews currently (3543 on PS4 votes to 1337 votes on Metacritic) and the game gets 5 stars on average for the PS4 and a 5.5 on Metacritic for the PC (basically 2 1/2 stars). The PS4 version gets only a 7.3 on Metacritic with 1/7th the amount of reviews.

 

What is wrong with that site? Anyone with any logic skills can see that its obvious that the critic scores are much more in line with the average user experience for the 99.9% of folks that don't go to Metacritic, don't rate the game, or don't visit forums in general. That site shouldn't even allow user scores as they are hurting the gaming industry, not helping when the reviews are so obviously filled with trolls...and no...I don't think the proportion of folks or their intent of rating a game a 10 is in line with the proportion of folks and their corresponding intent to rate the game a zero. People might be having a time of their life and rating the game a 10 despite bugs or issues installing...but to give the game a zero with this enormous complex world that is so easy on the eyes is a joke...even if it isn't your type of game. 

I didn't review this game online not once. It deserves 0. No, it deserves negative scores, but it is not possible. Yeah, a lot of people like this ****. But if I and a lot of people like me reiwed this game scores would be even worse. I say be happy with anything above 1, this game deserves not even be called a game. I'm sad that metacritic does not prevent companies from making stupid sick games like this one.

[Farangbaa]

I didn't review this game online not once. It deserves 0. No, it deserves negative scores, but it is not possible. Yeah, a lot of people like this ****. But if I and a lot of people like me reiwed this game scores would be even worse. I say be happy with anything above 1, this game deserves not even be called a game. I'm sad that metacritic does not prevent companies from making stupid sick games like this one.

Show us on the doll where Bioware hurt you

[phantomrachie]

I didn't review this game online not once. It deserves 0. No, it deserves negative scores, but it is not possible. Yeah, a lot of people like this ****. But if I and a lot of people like me reiwed this game scores would be even worse. I say be happy with anything above 1, this game deserves not even be called a game. I'm sad that metacritic does not prevent companies from making stupid sick games like this one.

 

This comment is even funnier if you watch the video Psychevore posted about it. 

[BammBamm]

if you ignore  the scores and just read the reviews most of them make some valid points and the "decently" written ones all repeat the same things. Ugh people, seriously    So many whine about huge scores given for games they dont like insisting reviewers have been payed , but then when a game they love receives honest negative reviews from other people who have played the game then they are just "haters" and "trolls". I dont agree with the numerical scores, and its obvious people are posting them out of spite, but the things they mention are valid complaints, or are you telling me that 100s upon 100s of people(those that were mostly serious in tone and wrote more than a couple of lines explaining their thoughts) all decided to bring up similar issues and have similar opinions on the game in a conspiracy -just- to spite bioware,, because -none- of it could -possibly- be true!   Btw wouldnt you rather hear these types of things yourself, in the future? isnt it better that there are those who are willing to speak honestly about a games flaws without a a financial stake or anything else in it? Or would you rather read every single glowing review of every game... oh thats right until you come across a game with a score that is too high in your opinion, and are "angry" that nobody honestly pointed out the games flaws. None of the "professional" reviewers of the pc copies mentioned the myriad of issues associated with it,  among them, the glaringly obvious one being the control issues for melee classes.

 

the real question is, why you should read reviews with the opinion of others when you can watch gameplay and make your own? for example da:i controls, some say its unplayable, some say they are clunky but working and some say they are fine. and on top of it the controls are different in different playstyles (tac/action), different in prefered controltype and even how you played former titles of da. so how do you exactly know what fits for you and your personal taste?