I think Dorian explains that the time machination is only impacting a local area so it did affect Fiona but not the Inquisitor.
Even so though he negates the need for Fiona ever to go to Val royeux to contact you meaning you shouldnt remember. Honestly unless you have a Tardis I dont know a good answer to why it didnt affect you.
But he found his, it won't work on Grey Wardens.
Fiona was cured
Yes, she was, but I presume it wasn't with Archie's method. I have not read that book so I could be wrong.Fiona was cured
Yes, she was, but I presume it wasn't with Archie's method. I have not read that book so I could be wrong.
Here lie spoilers for the callling
Another note of interest is that when I talked to Morrigan in another playthrough where the Warden romanced her, she stated that it was HER lead that the Warden now follows in his quest to cure the Calling. This reminded me of another scene in the Witch Hunt DLC where Morrigan will say that she left you a "gift" along with the stolen book on Dalish lore or something in the Dragonbone Wastes if you chose not to go through the Eluvian with her.
Is that "gift" what I think it is? Thoughts on this anyone?
Another note of interest is that when I talked to Morrigan in another playthrough where the Warden romanced her, she stated that it was HER lead that the Warden now follows in his quest to cure the Calling. This reminded me of another scene in the Witch Hunt DLC where Morrigan will say that she left you a "gift" along with the stolen book on Dalish lore or something in the Dragonbone Wastes if you chose not to go through the Eluvian with her.
Is that "gift" what I think it is? Thoughts on this anyone?
In my headcannon it helps to restore my wardens.... potency, after all there needs to be some kind of heir to Fereldan, even if both of its rulers are tainted.
As for what it actually is, who knows, it could be anything...
Don't you just love our new "modern" Bioware writing? Such artistic masterpiece.
I have a question. So wasn't it said that killing the red lyrium dragon would disrupt Corypheus's body surfing and that he could be killed? So why did the Inquisitor send him into the fade, where he wanted to be?
cause it wasnt actually sending him into the fade, so much as opening a rift inside of his body then slamming him into the breach.... or something like that.
Is Kieran no soulless?
If the dragon allows for Cory's body switching then how was Cory able to switch bodies in DA2
It seems to have something to do with the taint.
Is Kieran no soulless?
If the dragon allows for Cory's body switching then how was Cory able to switch bodies in DA2
I think Corypheus set up his body-switch ability a long time ago, before he was taken by the Wardens about 1,000 years ago. Otherwise the Wardens could have just killed him then instead of locking him up. Maybe he transferred this ability to the dragon recently (unless dragons live hundreds of years).
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After playing DAI, there are just so many things going on wrong in the game and I hope someone here can clarify the situation for me. So if anyone needs some explaining done by all means, please put your questions in this thread.
1. The game mentioned ALL the Wardens in Ferelden and Orlais went missing because of Corypheus faking the Calling. However, the Inquisitor met King Alistair in Redcliffe looking fine as usual. He didn’t even mention whether he heard the Calling or where the other Wardens went even if he refused Clarel’s plan (that’s assuming if Clarel ever called on the King to carry out his duty as a Grey Warden).
2.Leliana and Cassandra mentioned that the Hero of Ferelden went missing. (Odd how that happens when the Warden romanced Leliana and did not tell her what he/she is up to…)During a conversation with the spymaster, it turns out that the Hero of Ferelden is on a quest to stop the Calling in a land far west, “a land that have never known the Blight”. How is that considered “missing” when she knows what the Warden is up to? It’s like Varric lying about Hawke’s whereabouts to keep him safe and I’d doubt that she would lie about her Warden’s whereabouts.
And seriously… “a land that have never known the Blight”? How can a cure for the Calling end up in a place that hasn’t seen Darkspawn before?
3.Moreover, the end of the world is coming. The Hero of Ferelden’s quest to stop the Calling at a time like this seemed like a ridiculous idea, don’t you think? If Corypheus ever succeeded in tearing the blighted world apart, prolonging one’s life seems to be the least of the Warden’s problem. Stroud/Alistair manage to resist Corypheus in the end so why not the Hero of Ferelden as well? Clarel wasn’t possessed and neither is Stroud/Alistair. As Warden-Commander of Ferelden, shouldn’t he/she, I don’t know, get a piece of the action as well? People running around fighting for their lives, helping the Inquisition to restore order and what the Hero of Ferelden did to help? Nothing. So much for being the “Hero” of Ferelden…
4.Another question that comes to mind is, can a Grey Warden who is cured of the Calling still hear the Archdemon or sense the Darkspawn? Can Grand Enchanter Fiona still hear Corypheus’ fake Calling and warn the Inquisition perhaps? In DAI, it is stated that the Wardens are still needed to kill an Archdemon (I assume it’s because of the taint in them) and by doing so, he/she who takes the final blow will die. After all, the Calling is just the taint taking over a Warden’s soul.
My theory is that even with traces of the Calling gone, the taint will still be there but it will only be dormant. Otherwise, curing the Calling seems to contradict the purpose of needing Grey Wardens to end the Blight.
5.If she was romanced in Origins, Leliana will still become the Divine in DAI(if the player allows this). Whatever happened to “I will join him/her for good this time”? After defeating Corypheus, Leliana will also say that her place “is and always will be with the Inquisition” (or something like that…). The Warden’s effort to stop the Calling seemed futile at this point because he/she did it just to be with their lover for a little longer. Dang it...
6.In the Awakening’s epilogue, the Hero of Ferelden will step down as the Warden-Commander and never seen setting foot in Vigil’s Keep again. In DAI, upon completion of the quest “Contacting the Hero of Ferelden”, the Warden still has the title of Warden-Commander. Andraste’s flaming knickers, what’s going on here??
There could be more but these will do. For now.
1. Loghain seemed fine.
Don't take statements as irrefutable proof as to what is really happening.
'All' might just mean 90%
2. They didn't know before and they know now?
You think too hard on things that are simple.
As for the other stuff. Maybe BioWare has something in mind.
3. HoF's not everybody's guinea pig. My HoF was a scumbag who only cared for himself.
Good job BioWare taking that into consideration.
4. No it can't. Unless BioWare contradict this later on.
5. People change their minds. I do it all the time. It's not like "love conquers all."
6. They still call him that? He's kind of famous you know.
It's just... there are so many loose ends in Origins that Bioware seemed reluctant to deal with it in the coming series. Understandable but it's disappointing. Bah... Bioware couldn't give a damn about how we felt anyway.
They answered lots of things in DA:I.
Don't expect an info dump just in one game.
Jeez.
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I have a question. So wasn't it said that killing the red lyrium dragon would disrupt Corypheus's body surfing and that he could be killed? So why did the Inquisitor send him into the fade, where he wanted to be?
You don't really know what Quizzy did.
Maybe he did something else.
Magic.
Boom.
Bam.
Damn.
What makes no sense to me in DAI is the handling of Red Lyrium. Varric tells you to never touch it. He gets corrupted by a (small) shard. But...there is TONS of this stuff. You make weapon runes of it (isn't that exactly what corrupts imported Varric who kept the shard?). Then you also...destroy the red lyrium? How? The in-game animation of a warrior kicking the giant crystal makes no sense. Shattering the crystal does not reduce the amount of corrupt lyrium, if anything it spreads it. To drive the nail in the coffin they give us promotional red lyrium weapons (for lore reasons, they get sold immediately by me). The damn thing is portrayed like a highly radioactive substance, so why would you want to handle it at all?
From my understanding (Bianca's conversation) it seems that the ancient taig was equivalent of a radioactive burial site, which Cory & Co opened up and now spreading around. No in-game mechanic for destroying red lyrium is ever given.
So yeah, minor lore inconsistencies which can either be explained, or swept under the rug didn't bother me as much as the Red Lyrium issue.
What makes no sense to me in DAI is the handling of Red Lyrium. Varric tells you to never touch it. He gets corrupted by a (small) shard. But...there is TONS of this stuff. You make weapon runes of it (isn't that exactly what corrupts imported Varric who kept the shard?). Then you also...destroy the red lyrium? How? The in-game animation of a warrior kicking the giant crystal makes no sense. Shattering the crystal does not reduce the amount of corrupt lyrium, if anything it spreads it. To drive the nail in the coffin they give us promotional red lyrium weapons (for lore reasons, they get sold immediately by me). The damn thing is portrayed like a highly radioactive substance, so why would you want to handle it at all?
From my understanding (Bianca's conversation) it seems that the ancient taig was equivalent of a radioactive burial site, which Cory & Co opened up and now spreading around. No in-game mechanic for destroying red lyrium is ever given.
So yeah, minor lore inconsistencies which can either be explained, or swept under the rug didn't bother me as much as the Red Lyrium issue.
It seems that new lore establishes red lyrium being normal lyrium tainted by the blight, and they say the blight "Can only effect living creatures" thus sayin lyrium is a living entity of its own.
I do find the destroy lyrium thing ingame to be rather tacky and foolish, but if we think of it as a living entity, maybe smashing it kills the entity, who knows.
Also, on the red lyrium weapon thingy. I think perhaps that red lyrium in its natural raw form is alive and highly contaigous to other living creatures. What if working the red lyrium into another shape like the idol in DA2 and the sword of Meredith later basicly kills the lyrium, but keeps the corrupting influance intact, aldo perhaps at a slower rate then raw red lyrium does?
That could explain why weapons or idols made out of red lyrium seem less corrupting initialy then its raw form. Also red Templars actualy ingested the stuff and this caused far greater and accelerated corruption then say was the case with bartrand.
Even so though he negates the need for Fiona ever to go to Val royeux to contact you meaning you shouldnt remember. Honestly unless you have a Tardis I dont know a good answer to why it didnt affect you.
Paradoxes like this are one of the reasons I dislike time travel in fiction.
Paradoxes like this are one of the reasons I dislike time travel in fiction.
I thought the "time magic is breaking reality" hand-wave dealt with paradoxes about as well as it can be - they do exist, they're acknowledged, and in virtue of existing they threaten existence.
Envy demons perhaps? Like Lucius' case perhaps? But as to why and who did that... I really don't know much about it either.
When I was playing the first time and after I found out from Fiona herself that it wasn't her in Val Royeaux, I automatically assumed it was Morrigan somehow shapeshifting into Fiona to give the Inquisitor a lead. However, nothing ever came from it or was ever mentioned regarding that so...
Not one person asked why Cory need Divine Justinia for a sacrifice?
What is Florianne's dress made of? What kind of magic was that she used when she jumped off the balcony? That's my most puzzling one to be honest. I wish I had a GIF to show the ridiculousness of that encounter.
1.) Why would Alistair tell you about it? If you meet him as a King, he's dealing with a crisis within his borders, and then he leaves. The Calling is also a secret, and he wouldn't share it with non-Wardens. Presumably, though, Stroud or Loghain probably keeps him informed.
2.) "The Blight" is simply what it's called when the darkspawn come up and threaten the world above ground. It's already been established that lands that have not faced the Blight (the qunari lands) are more advanced in terms of research than those that spend time rebuilding. There might be others like Avernus in such lands. What else would the Grey Wardens do if they had had no darkspawn?
3.) The Inquisition is already on it, and the Hero of Ferelden would know this through his contact with Leliana.
4.) Grand Enchanter Fiona is no longer a Warden, quite literally, it has been removed from due to what happened to her. Thus, she cannot hear the Calling. She would have no way of knowing what was going on with the Wardens.
5.) Where else could a Divine be but with the holiest force in Thedas? Cassandra and Vivienne might want to go somewhere else, but the Divine can choose to go where she pleases.
6.) The Epilogues from the first game are not hard-canon facts.
I think you're just a little too obsessed with the Warden
Cory surviving is easy. Archdemons can move to a new tainted body and survive death in that way. On'y because of the other things in the joining cup and, becuase of training Grey Wardens can take the soul of the archdemon and, kill it along with themselves.
Cory has the same ability, and moved to either Larius or Janika in DA2 Legacy which we all pretty much knew. He tells us in Haven that he finally had the will to return under no name but his own so, in that respect he is similar to Cole, a spirit who has maifested rather than possesed a body.
In the end, we open a rift and of course corry wants to go, so he does, but we slam it closed before he can get through to the fade, I thin k. So by doing that we destroy him with the Rift, or Quizzy has mastered that anchor and, that rift takes Cory beyond the fade, to the void. Let's see him escape that.
Just becuase a land has not suffered a blight does not mean they do not know what darkspawn are or that they have not encountered, even killed and/or captured them. With no need to rebuild, they have more time to study the corruption and, possibly know treatments blighted lands have not yet discovered.
For the Hero of Fereldan stuff... unfortunately I think the answer is simply that they can't have that character make an appearance because the character doesn't have a voice. But, to avoid further plotholes, they have to make is so the character is far enough away where they wouldn't be affected by Cory and wouldn't have as much of an incentive to come stop him.
I dislike it. I've always disliked the epilogue stuff about the Warden where they simply say "he/she just disappeared." This has never made any sense at all to me. Why would my Warden, who is the Queen of Fereldan and a Warden-Commander just disappear and go off on some quest to stop the calling? Doesn't she have obligations as Queen or Warden-Commander?
It would make more sense for the Warden to come help out with Cory. It seems like they would be much more concerned about stopping the breach than finding an cure for the calling. But, the same could be said for Hawke running off to Weisshaupt after Adament. Seems like Hawke would rather stay and help stop Cory as opposed to playing messenger.
I'm pretty certain that if the Warden did have a voice, then they would make an appearance in the game (probably would have been Hawke's warden friend). It's a shame that adds constraints with the addition of the warden in future games.
I'm still at WTF moment when it comes to romanced Leliana. She does know where HOF is and yet she stayed silent as well...Cassandra will kill some redhead bird if she finds out xD
I'm hoping the Warden figures out how to cure the Calling without curing the taint, effectively achieving immortality as a ghoul. That would be sweet.
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