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[King Dragonlord]

I hate to be that guy but I have no barometer for this sort of thing myself so . . . 

 

Is it really ok to be hitting on Scout Harding? She's your subordinate, you're a religious icon to her. Kind of has shades of Commander Shepard. On the one hand, so far at least she hasn't told me to stop. On the other hand, I know she's not a romance option for my character so she's not reciprocating. Honestly I'm just doing it at this point to see if the game will ever call me on it. 

 

But maybe I'm off base here. I want to stress I'm really not normally the hypersensitive politically correct guy (look through my posts if you need the proof). But I was curious what you all thought about this. 

[GrayTimber]

I kinda felt this way about the start flirts with Cullen. I felt like I was harassing the poor guy

[Ailith Tycane]

It's not like your inquisitor is asking her to sit on your face or anything completely grotesque, it's just flirting.

[King Dragonlord]

It's not like your inquisitor is asking her to sit on your face or anything completely grotesque, it's just flirting.

Only because its not a dialog option

[Steelcan]

if she says stop and you don't then its an issue, otherwise I don't see a problem

[riverbanks]

 She's your subordinate

 

Technically, all of the love interests are either your subordinates or of near ranking, so if you start rationalizing too much and seeing sexual harrasment or fraternization into it, you can't romance anyone.

[King Dragonlord]

Maybe its just because I work in a state office where, just to be safe, I avoid interaction as much as possible. I'm afraid to tell a woman she's even wearing a nice outfit unless she's at least 30 years older than me. I don't know if my paranoia is fully warranted but I like my job so . . . 

[Sir DeLoria]

What's wrong with flirting? As long as it's harmless, there's no argument against it.

I tend to have my characters flirt with anything that moves.

[Reaver102]

Have to walk a fine line in the office world, even innocent stuff can get you fired.

[Mr.House]

It's harmless flirting.

[Tarvesh]

You're applying modern legalese butt covering procedures to game set in a medieval setting. It doesn't play. Especially because everyone in the Inquisition is your subordinate.

[King Dragonlord]

Wow. Ok. Didn't think this was the response I'd get here. 

 

And yes, technically the others are too but they feel more like allies choosing to follow my banner for the time being than employees. Cassandra and Cullen are really the only ones that are employees and Cullen at least could always leave and join another Templar faction. Possibly Cassandra could do the same.

[Br3admax]

Flirting is a natural part of communication, and a great deal of it's harmless. Unless she says to stop, there's really nothing wrong. 

[King Dragonlord]

You're applying modern legalese butt covering procedures to game set in a medieval setting. It doesn't play. Especially because everyone in the Inquisition is your subordinate.

 

I hear you. Though I know some people would balk at the "its period authentic" defense for a lot of potentially sexists things. This is a fantasy setting after all. Women are clearly equal in Thedas (if not of higher legal status), there's no persecution of sexuality. Things are different here. 

 

EDIT: Ok, So I think I have my answer. I feel like I'd be hearing more outrage if this were really a problem. In fact, my initial search of the forum would have generated some hits.

 

Side note: Curious if anyone feels this way about Commander Shepard. Some of the romanceables were definitely in his/her chain of command. 

[AlexMBrennan]

if she says stop and you don't then its an issue, otherwise I don't see a problem

Position of power matters - e.g. Teacher dating a pupil over the age of consent. This obviously is completely different, but dismissing it entirely is unwise.

Side note: Curious if anyone feels this way about Commander Shepard. Some of the romanceables were definitely in his/her chain of command.

Shepard did a lot of bad stuff - for example, virtually everyone in ME2 was forced to help out (e.g. Tali had a choice between suicide mission, or immediate death at the hands of the geth - as such, her "consent" is pretty meaningless)

[Wanderlust14]

I hear you. Though I know some people would balk at the "its period authentic" defense for a lot of potentially sexists things. This is a fantasy setting after all. Women are clearly equal in Thedas (if not of higher legal status), there's no persecution of sexuality. Things are different here. 

 

EDIT: Ok, So I think I have my answer. I feel like I'd be hearing more outrage if this were really a problem. In fact, my initial search of the forum would have generated some hits.

 

Side note: Curious if anyone feels this way about Commander Shepard. Some of the romanceables were definitely in his/her chain of command. 

 

The only person with Shepard that I felt was a bit off was with James in the DLC. 

[EmissaryofLies]

Hardly, my dear.

[Steelcan]

Position of power matters - e.g. Teacher dating a pupil over the age of consent. This obviously is completely different, but dismissing it entirely is unwise.

Shepard did a lot of bad stuff - for example, virtually everyone in ME2 was forced to help out (e.g. Tali had a choice between suicide mission, or immediate death at the hands of the geth - as such, her "consent" is pretty meaningless)

>its completely different

>but its the same

 

The Inquisitor is not pressuring her, she is not under duress, her job is not on the line, its harmless

 

Tali has to beg Shepard for the romance to occur, she's weirdly clingy that way.  And for the other romances such as Miranda or Garrus there is also no pressuring.  The only time it really crosses into not-OK territory is the not!date rape of Vega

[staindgrey]

Our newly over-sensitive liberal culture needs to remember that there's a difference between flirting and harassment. Flirting is a natural approach to conversation, and can be anywhere between harmless and provacative. Harassment is when it crosses a line and makes the other person uncomfortable. Unless Harding clearly becomes uncomfortable, there's no harm in the Inquisitor choosing to try and flirt with her.

 

I hate all of the debates going on between overly sensitive "social justice warriors" and overly insensitive morons. People are becoming scared of simply flirting with people because it could be taken as "harassment". Call out actual harassment and let people be people.

[Ailith Tycane]

Our newly over-sensitive liberal culture-

 

[Slappy Ya Face]

How Is casually flirting with her... Harassment? Is this how people think these days?

[CrazyRah]

Really do see nothing wrong since it stop at simple flirting

[SovietCyborg]

Thedas is a Dark Fantasy universe were abuse of power, brainwashing, slavery, rape and murder etc. are fairly common, and sexual harassment is what bothers you? 

 

 

[staindgrey]

Charming.

 

I consider myself a liberal, if we're going into politics, but that wasn't the point of my statement. The liberal culture of the United States-- as in, the liberal part of the culture, as opposed to the staunchly conservative part-- is overly sensitive on virtually every issue one can possibly be sensitive over. I'm not saying this as a closed-minded person who thinks "the good ol' days" were a thing. I'm saying it as someone who agrees with the ideas of many liberal thinkers but is still very skeptical of how they go about their business.

 

Flirting is flirting. The fact that harmless flirting can be deemed harmful harassment makes me very, very sad for the state of our culture. It has nothing to do with a political agenda and everything to do with a worry for what we'll eventually become.

[TheJediSaint]

10 hours of Scout Harding walking around Thedas.