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[chomesoon74]

Bioware must always have their former main characters going off on Revan-esque missions into the abyss because they're too lazy to write them into future games. This coming from the biggest Bioware fan I know.

 

Case in point:

 

Revan: disappears into the unknown regions.

Exile: disappears to find Revan.

Hero of Ferelden: disappears (to fight the Calling).

Hawke: disappears (to go help idiot Wardens rebuild)

 

I bet in Dragon Age 4 the Inquisitor will be said to have gone to some far off land to heal the remaining rifts in the fade. Mark my words.

LOL! It is so true! It sounds exactly like a plotline they will use.

[Aeralea]

I had a WTF? moment at this as well.

 

I had Stroud and Hawke and all Hawke seemed to do through the entire Fade was ****** about the Wardens. How the Wardens go too far and how this is partly their fault. All I kept thinking was 'shut your goram mouth' it was just 10 years ago that the Wardens saved all your ungrateful asses.

 

Hawke has this whole I must defeat Cory attitude and then when Stroud stays behind Hawke is all like 'Cheers peeps its been fun, peace out". Ummm, what? Perhaps if they had built up more of a connection between Hawke and the Wardens it might have felt different. But like I said Hawke was very negative in general towards them and I didn't get the whole 180.

 

Sure Hawke could have felt it was super important to diminish Cory's powers by taking away any potential he had to gain the Northern Wardens but seriously how long would it have taken to get there, it made no sense. But then again it is Hawke *sigh*

[Starwingz]

Bioware must always have their former main characters going off on Revan-esque missions into the abyss because they're too lazy to write them into future games. This coming from the biggest Bioware fan I know.

 

Case in point:

 

Revan: disappears into the unknown regions.

Exile: disappears to find Revan.

Hero of Ferelden: disappears (to fight the Calling).

Hawke: disappears (to go help idiot Wardens rebuild)

 

I bet in Dragon Age 4 the Inquisitor will be said to have gone to some far off land to heal the remaining rifts in the fade. Mark my words.

 

Don't forget that LIs of all 3 protagonists will appear in DA4 and say that they will join them soon or they will say that they are never truly apart.

[chomesoon74]

Hawke really should have joined the inquisiton and became a playable character. At the very least an agent. It would make a lot more sense than what they did. Hawke should have stayed to see Cory defeated. I do not not know why they did not do this.

[De Vulus]

Hawke really should have joined the inquisiton and became a playable character. At the very least an agent. It would make a lot more sense than what they did. Hawke should have stayed to see Cory defeated. I do not not know why they did not do this.

Maybe because some people just left him in the Fade and it would have complicated things for future once again. Still unfortunate. 

[Incanus]

The best thing would have been a cutscence for the endfight where Hawke/Stroud is fighting at the frontlines against Corys army while the inq storms through the battlefield and then it cuts to the final boss stage.

[Wolfen09]

because bioware considers hawke op and your computer or console would explode

[CrystaJ]

Sloppy writing.

 

I didn't get the impression anywhere that Hawke would relent in his quest to redeem himself by killing off Cory for good, even if he felt partially responsible for warden friend's demise and may seek to at least inform his warden bros; he'd probably go right back after Cory, probably with the Inquisition. Killing giant Fade spider is not killing Corypheus.

 

But you can't have too many chefs in one kitchen, I guess.

[Han Master]

Originally looking at the early screen shots, you are suppose to chose between the DAO warden or Hawk to leave in the fade to die.

[Arl Raylen]

because bioware considers hawke op and your computer or console would explode

 

This might actually be the case. He did after all defeat Corypheus once. By having him go off into darkspace to find the Reapers, they saved themselves from having to answer the question of "hey so why didn't the OP Hawke we crafted in DA2 who also killed Corypheus help us take him down at the end?"

 

And I have a completely unrelated question. Is Hawke the only male human in the game who has a unique height? He's got like 2 inches on human male Inquisitor. Seemed to like looking down at me too.

[Chrom72]

It's just your typical continuity issues forcing a railroaded plot. It's not like this sort of thing is new. That's the problem with attempting to give important decisions in a game with inevitable sequels down the line. You feel forced to include the Hawkes/Strouds/Alistairs/Loghains in the world but then you have to do something with them. How many different branching possibilities will there be for the next game? They're better off going to Seheron or something and limiting all the cameos next time around. 

 

I don't say this to try to criticize Bioware. They're doing the best they can with a tough challenge. But the only way to breakout of having cookie-cutter choices like this is to stop including every character possible. I'm just glad they didn't include The Warden in any serious way this time. The small mentions were just fine. 

[Arl Raylen]

It's just your typical continuity issues forcing a railroaded plot. It's not like this sort of thing is new. That's the problem with attempting to give important decisions in a game with inevitable sequels down the line. You feel forced to include the Hawkes/Strouds/Alistairs/Loghains in the world but then you have to do something with them. How many different branching possibilities will there be for the next game? They're better off going to Seheron or something and limiting all the cameos next time around. 

 

I don't say this to try to criticize Bioware. They're doing the best they can with a tough challenge. But the only way to breakout of having cookie-cutter choices like this is to stop including every character possible. I'm just glad they didn't include The Warden in any serious way this time. The small mentions were just fine. 

 

I think they can do it, it's just a matter of their priorities. Bioware has been experimenting a lot recently and we see it in Inquisition's open world. While it's GREAT you're not going to have as much choice as you'd want.

 

I wish the best devs from Bioware and CD Projekt Red would split off and form their own studio. Then you'd have characters you care about and a world with Game of Thrones esque meaningful decisions.

 

If Bioware wanted to, they could craft such a game. For a company backed by EA, can it really be hard to create multiple branching paths for a significant character? I mean, if they can't do it with Hawke or Alastair, there's no hope for any of the sidequests. I would have been happy with three fewer zones in Inquisition had they fleshed out our choices from previous games more.

[Kamui71]

Maybe the HoF has finally found a cure to the taint and send it to Weisshaupt so the leaders of the GW can cure them all.... But something  really really bad has happened due to the cure...

[sylvanaerie]

Yeah, i'm doing another series playthrough and this time i'm making Carver a warden, so this whole plotline makes more sense. Does he say anything about Bethany in your universe?

 

After the initial introduction you can ask Hawke about her family.  My first had Circle Mage Bethany, my second Grey Warden Carver.  They will also talk about their LI in that line of dialogue as well.

 

As for why she leaves to go to Weisshaupt, I don't know.  Whenever nothing makes sense in a book/movie/game I just shrug and say "They did it because it's 'in the script'?"

[l7986]

Maybe because some people just left him in the Fade and it would have complicated things for future once again. Still unfortunate. 

I really hate these types of answers and how companies won't do something for a character because some others might not make that choice. That just seems like a super lazy cop out.

[chomesoon74]

There is a lot they could have done here. The banter between Hawke, Cassandra, and Varric could have been epic.

 

Sending Hawke off with the Wardens was a really stupid move imo. They already had hired the previous voice actors of Hawke so they had that. They even let you customize Hawke so why they didn't allow Hawke to join as a playable character to help end Cory makes zero sense. That would have been epic in the end fight for Cory to see Hawke walk up with the Inquisitor.

 

As far as the decision to who to leave in the fade? Easy. Don't have one. Always have Stroud volunteer to stay behind. Problem solved.

[EdwinLi]

Well as of now all we can do is wait for more information about what is going on with Weisshaupt.

 

Events happening their most likely is the reason why Hawke was not able to return since his goal was to go there to inform the Northern Wardens about what happened in Southern Thedas and after he had the time to return.

 

Though I could see how if Hawke stayed that he or she could have provided some interesting operations involving us to send our Advisors to find the surviving members of Hawke's group so they can aid the Inquisition.

 

Isabela most like would have provided her pirate armada for our Naval forces.

 

Fenris may have provided information for Venatori slave operations.

 

Merrill may have provided some Dalish Clan and Mage support due to her help with keeping the other Dalish clans and Mages safe from the war.

 

Aveline may have provided some new recruit for the Inquisition.

 

Carver or Bethany may have provided some information or support for the faction they are in due to DA2 choices if they are alive.

[Draining Dragon]

I wish they had made you choose between the Warden and Hawke.

They could have included the warden by letting you determine the warden's personality and beliefs in the keep, but it would have been a lot of work for a brief cameo.

[N7KnightSabre]

I think the reason they didn't have Hawke stay was because Bioware wanted this game to be about the Inquisitor.  They probably thought that having Hawke's presence through the whole game would've detracted the significance of the your new main character.  

 

Personally, I would've loved to have Hawke along with me through the game.  It makes more sense since she does want Cory dead.