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[EdwinLi]

Well you read the title so here is the best ending for this main story quest that someone posted....

 

It appears the requirement is to find a person behind the 5 statue door, elf slave, and Merc in side the Empress quarter which happens if you choose to continue investigating.

 

the quest only have 10 statues but only 1 statue will be used to progress the story. The other 9 statues are scattered around the map but it should be easy to find at least  statue for the door if you don't spend any of them. I don't know the location of all statues but if you can keep up with only finding 5 or 6 it should be easy to stay above 85 to 100 approve without spending too much time away from the party.

 

[Mellon]

But he didn't even dance with Josephine! Best ending my ass!

[Alanosborn1991]

Finally the best outcome is shown great job.

I was pulling my hair out the first time I tried the mission because I had no idea where to go.

[TK514]

Given the epilogue regarding this resolution, I'm not entirely convinced it is the best one. Gaspard is the viper at Celine's breast, the elves are in open revolt, and Celine is only managing to keep her throne because she clutches so tightly to her alliance with the Inquisition. The Orlesian leadership is very much up for grabs there. Seems like it might actually be better to consolidate power with only one of the contenders, since the three for all clearly doesn't work.

[Alanosborn1991]

My first time I got Gaspard executed and Briala exiled so I think atempting to get all 3 to work together is 100 times better.

[EdwinLi]

Given the epilogue regarding this resolution, I'm not entirely convinced it is the best one. Gaspard is the viper at Celine's breast, the elves are in open revolt, and Celine is only managing to keep her throne because she clutches so tightly to her alliance with the Inquisition. The Orlesian leadership is very much up for grabs there. Seems like it might actually be better to consolidate power with only one of the contenders, since the three for all clearly doesn't work.

 

It actually better because all three finally agrees to stop trying to kill each other. The Civil War ends and now all three work together to make Orlais a better place that they alone could not accomplice unless all three worked together.

[bluebullets]

i got briala and celine to make up.. didn't have the option for all 3

[Alanosborn1991]

How did they make up? What did they say?

[TK514]

It actually better because all three finally agrees to stop trying to kill each other. The Civil War ends and now all three work together to make Orlais a better place that they alone could not accomplice unless all three worked together.

 

This is what they hope will happen, during the scene.  However, the epilogue makes is perfectly clear that is not what happened.  It is explicit that Gaspard becomes an even greater threat to Celine's power, and the elves go into open revolt.  Orlais goes into decline, and the only reason the Empress stays on the throne is because the Inquisition is propping her up.  It's a worst of all worlds scenario, which is a nice reversal of the usual 'get everyone to kiss and make up' result.

[Lvl20DM]

This is the scenario that probably benefits the Inquisition the most - a weak Orlais reliant on the Inquisition

[Dabrikishaw]

This is the scenario that probably benefits the Inquisition the most - a weak Orlais reliant on the Inquisition

Best ending for you, worst ending for Orlais. I like it.

[InfinitePaths]

So many...options...Can someone make a summary of all possible outcomes?

[Aimi]

This is the scenario that probably benefits the Inquisition the most - a weak Orlais reliant on the Inquisition

Depends on your definition of "benefit". If Orlais is reliant on the Inquisition to maintain order, then the Inquisition has to constantly expend power, troops, cash, and resources propping up the Orlesian throne instead of doing something else. In systemic terms, whenever there is a significant power imbalance like this between allies, the weaker ally is often paradoxically in the stronger position within the alliance. It is under threat of collapse if ever the stronger ally fails to support it, regardless of what the weaker ally actually does.

Under this model, the Inquisition might very well be more able to exert direct influence within Orlais through its close relationship with a weak crown, but that direct influence would be very much mitigated by the increasing faction within the court and the need for the Inquisition to take over more and more of the actual government of Orlais. If and when the Inquisition is unable or unwilling to continue to back the crown in every crisis, there is a potential for regime change resulting in a dramatically unfavorable circumstance for the Inquisition.

[Rhelna]

I just completed this quest and I've never been more stressed in a game ever. Had no idea what I was doing, before, during, or after the quest and I'm still not even sure what happened.

[yummysoap]

I got this to happen on my first playthrough purely by constantly dinging my little loot medallion. I think you only need an extra 2 halla statues to get into Celene's room to acquire the blackmail.

 

The epilogue makes it clear that the second the Inquisitor isn't around to baby them anymore they just go straight back to their bickering and political scheming, though, so for some this probably isn't the "best" outcome.

[TheRaccoon]

I got this to happen on my first playthrough purely by constantly dinging my little loot medallion. I think you only need an extra 2 halla statues to get into Celene's room to acquire the blackmail.

 

The epilogue makes it clear that the second the Inquisitor isn't around to baby them anymore they just go straight back to their bickering and political scheming, though, so for some this probably isn't the "best" outcome.

 

I'm not sure which is the best outcome. I also tried support Celene, execute Gaspard, not reconcile Celene&Briala and the epilogue said Celene was merely a pet empress to the Inquisition... 

[LinksOcarina]

One of the best missions in the game if you ask me.

 

Can't wait to play the Great Game again. 

[Nefla]

I didn't read the book so I don't care about any of these people or which butt is on the throne. I did get all three to work together but it was because I'm a snoop and find all the stuff and things.

[FuzzyThoctar]

I just completed this quest and I've never been more stressed in a game ever. Had no idea what I was doing, before, during, or after the quest and I'm still not even sure what happened.

 

Yep, this was me. Trying to find secrets, following the blinking indicator, searching for all the things, being attacked, watching the court counter tick down. By the end, I didn't give a flip who got the throne. But hey, I accidentally got points for being "fashionably late". So, yay me.

[Zoralink]

The best ending for this isn't forcing all three to work together, it's reconciling Briala and the Empress while Gaspard gets his head lopped off for being a bad cousin. Stable Orlais, improved situation for the elves, alliance with the inquisition. Everyone is happy. Except Gaspard. But he attacked the palace, which is positively rude so he deserved it.

[Ailith Tycane]

How do you get Briala and Celene to reconcile? I showed them both the elven locket and then supported Briala against Gaspard in the last big talk but then Celene walks off to make a speech and you don't even see Briala. Is that how you reconcile them or am I missing something?

[taranoire]

My Inquisitor is Dalish and hates shems, so she let Celene die and let Briala subversively take over. 

[MikeFL25]

There are three thought processes on this, whether in the world of Dragon Age or the real world. 

 

The first option is that a strong ally is one that is self-sufficient, independent and domestically stable makes the best ally because you need not worry about them and therefore do not have to micromanage their internal affairs.  This alliance works best when both nations share the same interests.  The second option is that having weaker allies who are dependent on you for continued stability/support are the best allies to have, because they are not in a position to betray you or back out of commitments.  The third option is the combination of the two, a strong-ish, somewhat stable nation that is not utterly dependent but still concludes that the continuation of the alliance is in its best security interests.

 

I applaud BioWare for how they handled the situation with the Orlesian leadership, and I think the "best choice" depends on your characters and your World State.  For me, my Warden had no hate for Orlais but also had the bigger view in mind...ultimately, political issues like "The Game", the Assembly in Orzammar, Loghain's treason, etc. are all smaller issues compared with the Blight or the Breach.  My Inquisitor also has a similar view.  While he wants the situation in Orlais to be under control and to reduce any marginalization to specific groups, but ultimately he doesn't care what the best, mot optimal outcome for Orlais is.  He cares what is best for the Inquisition and the people of Thedas.  

 

So for me, having Gaspard, Celene and Briala rule together is the best option because it allows Orlais to end the Civil War and add Gaspard to the ruling council, which strengthens domestic stability, political leadership and legitimacy.  However, they all still kinda hate each other and it can be assumed that somewhere down the line they will try to assassinate each other again.  This keeps them on their guard, and they cling to the Inquisition alliance and support more than they might without the threat of the others.  The perfect middle ground between dependence and outright independence.

[De Vulus]

Best ending my ass!!  Stannis the rightful King  Oops, I mean Gaspard is the rightful Emperor!