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[BubbleDncr]

So you're blaming him for having feelings for her? Or are you blaming him for expressing those feelings? If you're judging him by his actions, then I think breaking up with her was a noble thing to do. He loves her, but he knows that he can't be with her, so stringing her along would be doing her a disservice, and he loves her too much for that. Basically he does what Anders didn't have the strength to do. He's trying to prevent her from being hurt even more in the long run.

 

I do wish he'd told her more, but he obviously feels that he needs to keep his identity a secret. It's a heartbreaking situation all around.

 

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I want to believe he really loved my Lavellan. I really do. But he was very cruel in how he broke up with her. I mean, she literally just found out everything her people believed, everything she believed, was wrong. He permanently alters her face. She will never be able to look at herself without thinking of him. She'll never be recognized as Dalish again, so her own people will likely spurn her.

 

He took her to a beautiful place, told her how special and beautiful she was, kissed her, and then DUMPED HER. And then if you try to talk to him later, he promises to explain everything after the battle BUT THEN HE JUST LEAVES. 

 

My Inquisitor really really really wants to believe him when he said what they had was real. But it's really hard to imagine how he could really love her and be so cruel to her. 

 

I think everyone who romanced Solas is coming to terms with everything because we know he's the Dread Wolf, and we can connect the dots and start theorizing how it all makes sense that he could love her and has good intentions and all that. But the Inquisitor doesn't know any of that. All she knows if that he left her broken and alone.

[Tielis]

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I want to believe he really loved my Lavellan. I really do. But he was very cruel in how he broke up with her. I mean, she literally just found out everything her people believed, everything she believed, was wrong. He permanently alters her face. She will never be able to look at herself without thinking of him. She'll never be recognized as Dalish again, so her own people will likely spurn her.

 

He took her to a beautiful place, told her how special and beautiful she was, kissed her, and then DUMPED HER. And then if you try to talk to him later, he promises to explain everything after the battle BUT THEN HE JUST LEAVES. 

 

My Inquisitor really really really wants to believe him when he said what they had was real. But it's really hard to imagine how he could really love her and be so cruel to her. 

 

I think everyone who romanced Solas is coming to terms with everything because we know he's the Dread Wolf, and we can connect the dots and start theorizing how it all makes sense that he could love her and has good intentions and all that. But the Inquisitor doesn't know any of that. All she knows if that he left her broken and alone.

 

Amen, sister.  That ain't love.

 

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He knows he's going to leg it after the battle.  He knows she won't be able to go back to her clan after he removes her Vallaslin.  He knows he is the world to her.  He knows that all she will have is questions.

 

He knows all of this and he does it anyway.

[Mims]

To be fair, a lot of people are speaking more about how their characters feel in relation to Solas. Which is fine! But once you get into the realm of, 'well, my Inquisitor feels X', that's not really something that can be debated. One person might see Lavellan as being completely devastated by the breakup. Others might not. 

 

I don't think Bioware would ever put you in a situation where you couldn't end it with Solas if this storyline is continued into a future DLC. If you hate Solas for what he did to your Inquisitor, I don't doubt you'll get that opportunity to vent your feelings.

 

As far as what Solas himself feels, all we know is that he feels regret. We know that whatever cause it is he has committed himself to, he values it more than his own happiness or rest. Whether what he did was right or not, we know he thought breaking it off with Lavellan was the right thing to do for both of them. I don't think you can say that's not love.

 

It just might not be the sort of love you want to reciprocate. That is the subjective part.  

 

Personally, I loved the romance. I did not see that final scene as some plot by Solas to leave her heartbroken. I think if anything, he thought they were going to have a romantic evening. He'd do some magic, spend time in an amazing location...and then he realizes he's finally gone too far. If he goes any further with Lavellan, then he might start to second guess his 'mission', whatever that might be. So he leaves, fullstop. Yes, he chooses his plans over Lavellan. Maybe his plans are righteous ones, or maybe they are downright villainous. We don't know. That's what makes it so compelling. 

 

[You also can't really blame the guy for not explaining himself. The game ended. Until DLC or another game comes out, everything after the credits is just null time.]

[jellobell]

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I want to believe he really loved my Lavellan. I really do. But he was very cruel in how he broke up with her. I mean, she literally just found out everything her people believed, everything she believed, was wrong. He permanently alters her face. She will never be able to look at herself without thinking of him. She'll never be recognized as Dalish again, so her own people will likely spurn her.

 

He took her to a beautiful place, told her how special and beautiful she was, kissed her, and then DUMPED HER. And then if you try to talk to him later, he promises to explain everything after the battle BUT THEN HE JUST LEAVES. 

 

My Inquisitor really really really wants to believe him when he said what they had was real. But it's really hard to imagine how he could really love her and be so cruel to her. 

 

I think everyone who romanced Solas is coming to terms with everything because we know he's the Dread Wolf, and we can connect the dots and start theorizing how it all makes sense that he could love her and has good intentions and all that. But the Inquisitor doesn't know any of that. All she knows if that he left her broken and alone.

 

Amen, sister.  That ain't love.

 

He knows he's going to leg it after the battle.  He knows she won't be able to go back to her clan after he removes her Vallaslin.  He knows he is the world to her.  He knows that all she will have is questions.

 

He knows all of this and he does it anyway.

But he gives her a choice. She don't have to let him remove her vallaslin (and the game gives you a good way to explain why she might not want to). He wanted her to have the truth, and give her the choice to keep them or not, while knowing the whole truth. And he respects her decision, whatever it is. He still loves her and thinks she's beautiful. Remember, Solas believes a hard truth is better than a comforting lie.

 

And even though it might have been easier for both of them for him to pretend that he didn't love her, he couldn't. Maybe it's just me, but throughout the game what always struck me was now earnest Solas was. You'd think an immortal godlike being would be more callous, but no, it's obvious that he cares very deeply about the world and the people in it. In fact it'd probably be easier for him if he didn't care so much. I recall some banter with Varric where Solas expresses dismay at how far the dwarves have fallen, noting that there's nothing worse than just giving up.

 

So maybe this is just a fundamental difference in our perceptions of him, but I think he ends their relationship because he loves her.

[mindoirs]

Agreed. His plan is likely something that he considers far bigger than just himself. It's bigger than him, and he had to sacrifice his happiness with Lavellan in order to bring order back to the world again. I personally interpreted the break up as him not wanting to involve her in his plans. And to me that is love, because for once he was not alone anymore. For once, he was respected and liked for being who he was while others judged him and called him crazy. For once, he knew what it was like to have such feelings for someone (let alone a mortal). And he knew that he had to stick to his plan and fix his mistakes, and he refused to drag her down with him because he likely doesn't know what will happen especially now that the orb is destroyed. He'd sacrifice his feelings in order to set things right, which I think is part of why he can be described as an earnest person. From the very beginning he had advised against the relationship, but he wanted happiness and he reciprocated Lavellan's feelings. He likely knew that he wouldn't be able to resist them as she pressed on, anyway. And you can say he was selfish, because despite understanding him, he was and he definitely admits it. It's not like he's not aware of his mistakes.

 

Also, he NEVER forced Lavellan to remove her markings. That was your decision.

 

I don't expect a happy ending. I think from playing BioWare games, a concrete happy ending is very unlikely to happen. It'll likely be bittersweet, or there won't even be full closure in the DLC/expansion. But I do think we expect and want some closure, and it should be given. And I trust that it will, in whatever form it comes.

 

He's sort of like an embodiment of his belief that the world isn't black or white. He has various shades of grey himself. But I don't think he can really be called narcissistic or a mastermind manipulator. A liar and selfish, yes. But he also cared about saving refugees, cared deeply about his friends, and was honest with Lavellan with the things he could allow himself to say. And he did love her, because he could not bring himself to say that he did not care about her. That he loved her I think is something that can't be doubted.

[laxlily]

These responses are so thought provoking! I think we can all agree that DA3 is an amazing, compelling game. And yes, i am selfishly hoping for a happy ending for my inquis and the dread wolf. Can't a girl dream?

Please release dlc ASAP bioware!!!

[Kath]

+1  would kill for some closure. Not even expecting a happy ending, just some follow-up that includes my inquisitor and Solas meeting again. 

I began my pining for DLC the second I finished the game, haha.

Bioware pls. (◉‿◉✿)

[jellobell]

I'd be lying if I said I wasn't hoping for something happy.   Though I'd be over the moon if it's about as happy as Witch Hunt.

[Kirie]

I'd be lying if I said I wasn't hoping for something happy.   Though I'd be over the moon if it's about as happy as Witch Hunt.

If not happy (which I would love, pleeeease Bioware), at least something ambiguous so we could fill in the blanks ourselves and make our own happy ending via headcanon > >;

[SamanthaJ]

I'd be lying if I said I wasn't hoping for something happy.   Though I'd be over the moon if it's about as happy as Witch Hunt.

Yessss. In Witch Hunt Warden and Morrigan were able to be together. Even in DA:I when they had to be apart they were together. Together is all I want and need.

[Mims]

I would love ambiguous. I feel like open endings tend to resonate the best, as everyone can read what they'd like to in them. 

 

Barring that. I would love if we could actually convince Solas to invest in the future, and the Dalish people. Leave the ancients to the past, and start working on the new elven empire. [At least, this is what I imagine my Inquisitor will say five seconds before all hell breaks loose and the elven gods get out anyway.] 

[Solas]

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As others said, the face altering is entirely optional. He doesn't truss you up and do it against your will.

 

We do not know for certain that removing your vallaslin means your clan won't accept you back. The Lavellan clan has been shown to be quite open and liberal anyway. I hardly think they would turn away their beloved da'len if she came back to them, especially since she just saved the world, including them. Some people in this thread keep speaking in certainties about things we don't actually know the truth/facts about.

 

He never actually promises to explain to her, that isn't quite what he says.

 

And like mims said, we're getting now into "my Lavellan felt" territory. My Lavellan isn't broken. She's angry, grim and resolute, just like she always was. Not that it matters, because everyone's Lavellan is different.

[Addai]

He tells her he cares for her and wishes it could have been different AFTER they get that close?  Seriously.  Yes, I know Lavellan grabbed him and he was vulnerable because he feels like nobody cares for him and all, but come on...  taking her to a nice romantic place, telling her about the Vallaslin and offering to remove it, then just a flat  "I will not distract you from your duties again."  Cold.  Stone cold.
 
Everything else you said I agree with.  All I'm saying is that he's not to be excused for how he treated Lavellan and how he treats the modern elves.  Yes, it may very well be that his plan makes things better for them, but it's not his first priority.  
 
As trite as it sounds, hurt people hurt people.  And those are the toxic ones to stay away from.

I don't see him "treating" the modern elves any way at all. He wants the Inquisition to help people, and he has compassion for the suffering. He often comments on the tragedies of the land, elven and otherwise. What's the big mystery about his disdain for the Dalish? They combine ignorance with arrogance and unwillingness to question their assumptions. These are Solas Disapproves buttons.

It's certainly understandable to feel jilted and abandoned. I don't think that calls for writing him off as manipulative or mean-spirited. He's fallible, not exactly an expert in romance, and conflicted. He doesn't cut it off sooner because he's thinking about what it means that Levallan is so different from anyone else. "You change everything."

If there's a pitfall, I think it's that he might be more in love with the idea of her than capable of being in a relationship. I can't hate him for wanting to believe he won't have to be alone forever. He outright tells her it's a bad idea. Levallan makes her own choices.

[Sanctuary74]

My Lavellan fell for Solas the moment he opened his mouth. I need more!! I was so sad after beating the game. 

[Addai]

One thing I'll add, in talking to him again about Corypheus, it did seem that when he refers to "my people" he means something more specific and ancient, not the race of elves. So I do think his reference to "the People" could be ambiguous, despite Flemythal's usage that includes the Dalish.

[DragonRacer]

Totally signing this with my full support!

 

Patrick Weekes owns a part of my soul now. I'm sure it even weeps fan tears for him on command. I hope he at least put it in a nice jar. 

[BubbleDncr]

Personally, I loved the romance. I did not see that final scene as some plot by Solas to leave her heartbroken. I think if anything, he thought they were going to have a romantic evening. He'd do some magic, spend time in an amazing location...and then he realizes he's finally gone too far. If he goes any further with Lavellan, then he might start to second guess his 'mission', whatever that might be. So he leaves, fullstop. Yes, he chooses his plans over Lavellan. Maybe his plans are righteous ones, or maybe they are downright villainous. We don't know. That's what makes it so compelling. 

 

[You also can't really blame the guy for not explaining himself. The game ended. Until DLC or another game comes out, everything after the credits is just null time.]

 

I like your interpretation. 

 

And I don't dislike the romance. I like it very much. I want to believe that he did really love her. Which is why I really hope they make this dlc. 

[Arendale]

Is it super sad that I loved the Solas romance so much, that when I rerolled and had the option to romance another character, I couldn't do it? No other romance has the depth and sensuality that Solas brings to the table! I shouldn't say I was disappointed when I reached the ending, but I sort of was. SUCH a cliffhanger! I spent hours on the forums and other websites looking for info to see if there was more. 

 

Anyway, the reason I am posting is because I have a request to the bioware guys. I am voicing my hope to you developers/story-writers that they please, please continue the Solas romance with the inquisitors we have created in DA3. Yes, I'm a fangirl, and yes, I really want to see the story with my Lavellan completed. Without saying too much about the story, I cannot stop thinking about what happened at the end of DA3. That being said, yes, you guys did an awesome job, and the story is amazing. But you have to know by now that every gamer girl who romances Solas is just dying after the ending. 

 

Thank you for developing such an awesome game, and here's to hoping the story continues (DLC?). 

- Devoted Fangirl

 

--Oh, and please don't break my heart too hard. ;-)

@laxlily, you took the words right from my heart. I'm really glad to find people thinking the same as I do.

 

This romance between Solas and Lavellan was so deep and the end not only breaking their hearts.

So please BioWare, please please please continue the romance between Solas and Lavellan and give them ther Happy End.

(Maybe in an big Addon like Awakening or an DLC.)

Please don't let us down.

[RedWulfi]

Did anyone else have the cut scene where Flemeth transfers herself to Solas? My mouth dropped.

[jellobell]

Did anyone else have the cut scene where Flemeth transfers herself to Solas? My mouth dropped.

Yeeep.

 

Though I interpreted that as her giving him her/mythal's power. 

[RedWulfi]

I did NOT see it coming its okay. He didn't like me, anyway.

[Commander of the Grey]

Adding my voice to this. As someone who only played as an Elf once in DA:O (who was dumped by Alistair and swore to never play one again because that broke me ha ha), I was captivated by Solas' voice and had to stop my Cullen romance half way through just to start over for the mysterious Elf.

I was not disappointed. Tragic and beautiful. A surprise to me seeing as his romance content is shorter compared to others but there was so much emotion packed into those few and I regret nothing. I would love closure. There is a great need in fact and not just from a romance standpoint.

All of my love for the beautiful way it was handled and extra kudos to his VA for such an amazing job.

[Tielis]

All of my love for the beautiful way it was handled and extra kudos to his VA for such an amazing job.

 

Yes.  Like Alistair, the VA completely made the character.

[Ceoldoren]

I have a feeling you're gong to be disappointed.

 

I don't know if their's a way this one can end happily. 

[Ajna]

I have a feeling you're gong to be disappointed.

 

I don't know if their's a way this one can end happily. 

 

Ceol, have you learned nothing from being a Varricmancer? , it's never to lose hope.

 

Edit:  Plus, you had a feeling we were going to get Varric so