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I get why you guys want this. I really do. Thing is, you have to realize that everyone wants to see more of their favorite couple, be it warden/Alistair, Warden/Morrigan. Hawke and whoever (Heh, Aveline and Tallis were the only ones who interested mine, and he doesn't expect anything to happen there, pretty much ever), or the inquisitor and any number of LIs.

 

How do you justify picking one out of the pack and not doing the others? Sure, Morrigan and the warden got a scene together at the end of witch Hunt, but the impetus for that was more dealing with a major plot point--the OGB, dangerous or not, and giving the PC an opportunity not to be a deadbeat dad if applicable, or try to kill her (and it) if he/she deemed it too dangerous to survive.

 

There's no such unfinished business with Solas since the inquisitor doesn't know enough to have a reason to look for him outside the romance angle, making a potential dlc a bit nebulous if you didn't romance him. Why would that inquisitor be looking for him?

They could easily make a reason for the Inquisitor to want to find him. If suspicious, Solas related activity crops up the Inquisitor might want to know about it considering he was a former companion who apparently wasn't completely honest about who he was (Leliana did say that the village he grew up in was centuries old so it's not like Quiz doesn't know something). 

 

If nothing else I know a lot of Inquisitors probably want their stuff back.


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I get why you guys want this. I really do. Thing is, you have to realize that everyone wants to see more of their favorite couple, be it warden/Alistair, Warden/Morrigan. Hawke and whoever (Heh, Aveline and Tallis were the only ones who interested mine, and he doesn't expect anything to happen there, pretty much ever), or the inquisitor and any number of LIs.

 

How do you justify picking one out of the pack and not doing the others? Sure, Morrigan and the warden got a scene together at the end of witch Hunt, but the impetus for that was more dealing with a major plot point--the OGB, dangerous or not, and giving the PC an opportunity not to be a deadbeat dad if applicable, or try to kill her (and it) if he/she deemed it too dangerous to survive.

 

There's no such unfinished business with Solas since the inquisitor doesn't know enough to have a reason to look for him outside the romance angle, making a potential dlc a bit nebulous if you didn't romance him. Why would that inquisitor be looking for him?

 

To counterpoint - there is absolutely no interest for the Warden/Orlesian warden to look for Morrigan if there is no OGB and she is not romanced. Still, Witch Hunt DLC exists. Also, while the Inquisitor doesn't know Solas' real identity, the player does and most people are curious about how he will be involved in the subsequent events because it's clear his story isn't finished. 

 

As for the reason for the Inquisitor to search for him - honestly, there are myriad ways to give them one, from Leliana finding out some clues to Morrigan/Inquisitor (depending on who drank from the Well) getting some information from it about Fen'Harel and his connection to the Anchor. Or Inquisitor could investigate something else initially but eventually it leads them to Solas.

 

Edit: and what SamanthaJ said :)


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They could easily make a reason for the Inquisitor to want to find him. If suspicious, Solas related activity crops up the Inquisitor might want to know about it considering he was a former companion who apparently wasn't completely honest about who he was (Leliana did say that the village he grew up in was centuries old so it's not like Quiz doesn't know something). 

 

If nothing else I know a lot of Inquisitors probably want their stuff back.

See, that's what I'm saying. There's no organic reason for nonromance inquisitors to find him. It would have to be created, and if that's the case, how would they explain to the fans of the other romances why they didn't do the same for their favorite characters? You're asking them to set a precedent that can only cause them a world of pain--or many DLC of limited appeal. I totally get why you'd want that, but I also get why Bioware would want to avoid it.

 

Edit: Re: the Orlesian Warden--they did have a reason--to see if a fellow warden unleashed a demon on the world. I still maintain that there's no such intrinsic reason here.



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See, that's what I'm saying. There's no organic reason for nonromance inquisitors to find him. It would have to be created, and if that's the case, how would they explain to the fans of the other romances why they didn't do the same for their favorite characters. You're asking them to set a precedent that can only cause them a world of pain--or many DLC of limited appeal.

 

Edit: Re: the Orlesian Warden--they did have a reason--to see if a fellow warden unlleashed a demon on the world. I still maintain that there's no such intrinsic reason here.

Because, well, other romances didn't disappear anywhere without explanation? Also, other romanced characters can very well play some role in the Solas-related DLC
(and get more romance content as well if it worries you so :) ), aren't they still around?

And what demon is unleashed on the world if there is no OGB? Basically Orlesian warden just pursues some witch she/he doesn't even know personally because....?


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Because, well, other romances didn't disappear anywhere without explanation? Also, other romanced characters can very well play some role in the Solas-related DLC
(and get more romance content as well if it worries you so :) ), aren't they still around?

And what demon is unleashed on the world if there is no OGB? Basically Orlesian warden just pursues some witch she/he doesn't even know personally because....?

Hmm. You're right. If there's no OGB, the Orlesian warden has zero reason to go after Morrigan. Touché! Ok, they appear to have already set their own precedent. Let the floodgates open, lolol.

 

(What's that sound? Sounds like the DLC team kicking themselves around the block ;) )

 

I suspect they plan any resolution in whatever way they plan to handle the Warden and the warden's romance partners.... Good luck to you though. It's not like you can't make a case for it, lol


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Solas caused the fade rift to happen in the first place. I like him as a character but his crimes are 100x worse than Loghain so he has to die if I ever meet him again.



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I don't think we're going to 'search' for Solas.

 

I think we're going to hear a loud boom in the distance, and we're going to go: "What the hell is going on over there?" 

 

Along the way, we'll run into Solas again. And Solas will have a 50% chance of being the one who caused the boom, or is trying to stop the boom. Given his track record though, it will probably result in mass chaos no matter what. 

 

Whatever Solas is planning, whether for good or ill, will impact Thedas. So I don't think its really a matter of if we run into him again, but when. 


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For anyone with a hankering for loose ends tied up with their Solas romance, I've written the following choose your own adventure story based on whatever game choices you made - It's PG13, contains spoilers, and I did my best to stay as true as I can to the canon I know from the novels and other comics, thedas histories and rpg books I've read:

Solas Romance Epilogue

 

Enjoy. And I'll check other forums to make sure I'm reaching the people that were looking for something.

 

I want to thank you so very much for this, this is exactly how I feel and I like slow revealing of the story along the tale.

But you did reopen the wound so it took me few to get over it again :)

Cannot play the game anymore though, everything appears now small and meaningless somehow. May be after a while...



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I think there are several Romances that need serious closure and another one that needs it is.

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I get why you guys want this. I really do. Thing is, you have to realize that everyone wants to see more of their favorite couple, be it warden/Alistair, Warden/Morrigan. Hawke and whoever (Heh, Aveline and Tallis were the only ones who interested mine, and he doesn't expect anything to happen there, pretty much ever), or the inquisitor and any number of LIs.

 

How do you justify picking one out of the pack and not doing the others? Sure, Morrigan and the warden got a scene together at the end of witch Hunt, but the impetus for that was more dealing with a major plot point--the OGB, dangerous or not, and giving the PC an opportunity not to be a deadbeat dad if applicable, or try to kill her (and it) if he/she deemed it too dangerous to survive.

 

There's no such unfinished business with Solas since the inquisitor doesn't know enough to have a reason to look for him outside the romance angle, making a potential dlc a bit nebulous if you didn't romance him. Why would that inquisitor be looking for him?

 

Untrue.

Even my dwarf wants to look for Solas.

He disappeared after the orb broke, it's really suspicious. The village he grew up in is in ruins for centuries. Super. Suspicious.

 

Leliana reports of him moving west, like the wardens. The Inquisitor doesn't even have to search for him, they may run across him if something happens in the west.

 

Playerwise - a lot of players went 'WTF' after the stinger, many players would like the Inquisitor to confront Solas or to at least find out what's going on.

 

If nothing else I know a lot of Inquisitors probably want their stuff back.

 
Plus, he took some of my better equipment.

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Is it super sad that I loved the Solas romance so much, that when I rerolled and had the option to romance another character, I couldn't do it? No other romance has the depth and sensuality that Solas brings to the table! I shouldn't say I was disappointed when I reached the ending, but I sort of was. SUCH a cliffhanger! I spent hours on the forums and other websites looking for info to see if there was more. 

 

Anyway, the reason I am posting is because I have a request to the bioware guys. I am voicing my hope to you developers/story-writers that they please, please continue the Solas romance with the inquisitors we have created in DA3. Yes, I'm a fangirl, and yes, I really want to see the story with my Lavellan completed. Without saying too much about the story, I cannot stop thinking about what happened at the end of DA3. That being said, yes, you guys did an awesome job, and the story is amazing. But you have to know by now that every gamer girl who romances Solas is just dying after the ending. 

 

Thank you for developing such an awesome game, and here's to hoping the story continues (DLC?). 

- Devoted Fangirl

 

--Oh, and please don't break my heart too hard. ;-)

 

I agree with this sentiment completely. I am deeply suffering right now in that happy way that I really want more there despite the perfection - or perhaps because of it. I can't decide.


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If things are what they seem...... then Solas might be the enemy in the next game/DLC/expansion so i doubt you guys would be able to continue romancing him, i however hope you get your wish and for those of us  who play malequisitors to get a chance to give him a beating for that whole breach stuff.



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I get why you guys want this. I really do. Thing is, you have to realize that everyone wants to see more of their favorite couple, be it warden/Alistair, Warden/Morrigan. Hawke and whoever (Heh, Aveline and Tallis were the only ones who interested mine, and he doesn't expect anything to happen there, pretty much ever), or the inquisitor and any number of LIs.

 

How do you justify picking one out of the pack and not doing the others? Sure, Morrigan and the warden got a scene together at the end of witch Hunt, but the impetus for that was more dealing with a major plot point--the OGB, dangerous or not, and giving the PC an opportunity not to be a deadbeat dad if applicable, or try to kill her (and it) if he/she deemed it too dangerous to survive.

 

There's no such unfinished business with Solas since the inquisitor doesn't know enough to have a reason to look for him outside the romance angle, making a potential dlc a bit nebulous if you didn't romance him. Why would that inquisitor be looking for him?

First of all Solas romance is unfinished so I think it deserves a closure. There is also less romantic content with Solas so getting more of that in DLC could be considered as justified. Although I think it would be best that if there is a DLC then it would add romantic content to other romances as well not just to Solas romance. I think getting more Solas could also happen in a way that you would be investigating some weird events that occured because he had done something. You may not find him but maybe he could come back to explain things to you. I would also be happy if the DLC would concentrate on whatever things but just in the end Solas would came back. So I would only need one scene with him where I could get him back or join him where ever he is and leave the inquisition.

 

I made Alistair to do the DR. So it was weird for me to go looking for Morrigan because the child wasn't mine and Alistair wasn't with me and my PC thought that if she doesn't want to be found so why she should go looking  for her?


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#189
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I think there are several Romances that need serious closure and another one that needs it is.

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If things are what they seem...... then Solas might be the enemy in the next game/DLC/expansion so i doubt you guys would be able to continue romancing him, i however hope you get your wish and for those of us  who play malequisitors to get a chance to give him a beating for that whole breach stuff.

 

Sure we can! I just will doom the world and totally not care, thus romance continued.

I'd be delighted to discover more here regardless of his romance, but the implications of having won the love of an Elven god is just too good a story to leave alone - I'd be sorely disappointed if they didn't expound on this at least just a little bit.


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Again, I disagree.  Yes, he has regrets.  Yes, they bother him.  

 

And yet, he's aloof towards the modern elves.  Whatever his plan is, I don't think it is to save the modern elves.  I think his plan is to relieve himself of his guilt.

 

He falls in love with Lavellan and ends it too late in the most crushing way possible, imho.  To me, that says everything.  A truly noble person would not have done that, no matter how he felt.

 

Actions define a person, not words and not inner feelings.

@Tielis 

                    According to Solas's writer, Patrick Weekes, Solas was planning on telling Lavellan the truth about himself and his involvement with Corypheus and the elves during their scene after Temple of Mythal. But he lost his nerve and covered it up with the the Vallaslin as an excuse as to why he brought her out there. When he kisses her, he almost loses himself and forgets about his mission, but as soon as he pulls back he realizes that he can't betray himself and needs to break off what the have. It's so sad, I'm really hoping in the dlc or next game perhaps, there's some closure or some r

 

Again, I disagree.  Yes, he has regrets.  Yes, they bother him.  

 

And yet, he's aloof towards the modern elves.  Whatever his plan is, I don't think it is to save the modern elves.  I think his plan is to relieve himself of his guilt.

 

He falls in love with Lavellan and ends it too late in the most crushing way possible, imho.  To me, that says everything.  A truly noble person would not have done that, no matter how he felt.

 

Actions define a person, not words and not inner feelings.

 

omance if both characters are there. *fingers crossed*


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  I agree that it was a heartbreaking romance, but conflict is a good thing, it adds depth, suspense, emotion, where as, if it was like any other, choosing a few dialogues and suddenly everything is playing out perfectly, it wouldn't have all of those elements.  

 

Solas was continuously struggling with his emotions,, thus all of Bi-Polar effection and confusion.  Witch I found to be quite romantic, he wants to be close to her, but doesn't want to hurt her, or be hurt, and risk getting to close.

 

Who knows what may happen in the future, there is alot in the romance and in the main storyline with Solas to ponder on.

 

I just wish there was more scenes, I didn't like how the romance progression depended highly on the progression of the main storyline, but I cling to hope for the future and what it shall entail.



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I would really love a romance continuation. Heck, if my character could choose to be evil in the end and side with Solas then I would even be game for that!!! I would even be satisfied if at the end Solas is sent into the fade and my character is like, "Well this has been nice everyone, thanks for helping me save the world, but ah, I'm going to go with him to keep him out of trouble and make sure he never has to be alone again." (And then the inquisitor was never herd from again.) Then in roll the credits and I wait for DA4 with a broken, but satisfied heart. 


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Hah, I feel like such a geek for being so broken hearted by my Solas romance.. I really hope our dear devs listen to our pleas. I would be so bummed if nothing else was mentioned between the two. I have now played through the game two more times since Solas and have yet to stick to my "gotta romance someone else" goal. It's just the best no matter how tragic.
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Solas caused the fade rift to happen in the first place. I like him as a character but his crimes are 100x worse than Loghain so he has to die if I ever meet him again.

 

Well unless it turns out Solas is a pimp with an elf girl in every town. Then I'd keep him around out of mad respect. 



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Just popping in to add my agreement. Easily my favourite character in DAI!

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Im joining as well please i need dlc i would def buy it. It must be story. Come on he can't just leave inquisitor and just show up after. First time i played female just to romance him cuz i liked him and was sad he not romance man's. So played for him and in the end he just end it. It must be explanation my inquisitor deserves it. :/

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Is it super sad that I loved the Solas romance so much, that when I rerolled and had the option to romance another character, I couldn't do it? No other romance has the depth and sensuality that Solas brings to the table! I shouldn't say I was disappointed when I reached the ending, but I sort of was. SUCH a cliffhanger! I spent hours on the forums and other websites looking for info to see if there was more. 

 

Anyway, the reason I am posting is because I have a request to the bioware guys. I am voicing my hope to you developers/story-writers that they please, please continue the Solas romance with the inquisitors we have created in DA3. Yes, I'm a fangirl, and yes, I really want to see the story with my Lavellan completed. Without saying too much about the story, I cannot stop thinking about what happened at the end of DA3. That being said, yes, you guys did an awesome job, and the story is amazing. But you have to know by now that every gamer girl who romances Solas is just dying after the ending. 

 

Thank you for developing such an awesome game, and here's to hoping the story continues (DLC?). 

- Devoted Fangirl

 

--Oh, and please don't break my heart too hard. ;-)

Solas's story and romance matured the elves in Dragon Age for me. Until he came along I did not really respect them that much. I disliked Merrill with a passion because she was annoying and really did nothing to make me take the elves seriously. But Solas blew me away. The writing, choreography, lore and romance came together beautifully and now I really enjoy the elves in Dragon Age. I take them seriously because of him. If there isn't more of him and his romance in the next installment then BW are missing a golden opportunity.


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I'd like the follow up to the Solas plot to involve the Inquisitor whether you are in a romance or not.    To my mind, that epilogue made me feel that instead of the story having finished, it had in fact only just begun.    Solas was involved in some way with Corypheus but we don't really know how or why.    Clearly it had a bearing on his desire to help us but also the destruction of his orb hasn't stopped him from pursuing his original plan.   Now he appears to have merged in some way with Mythal.    The gradual reveal of new elven lore that climaxed in the Temple of Mythal only wetted my appetite for more.

 

The Inquisitor still has the anchor which probably has more potential than we realise.    We have now built up this organisation so it would be a shame not to use it for at least one more important storyline.    If Solas' plans involve releasing the elven gods, coupled with restoring the glory of the ancient elves, this is going to be high powered stuff that can only be dealt with by high powered characters.   In any case, I can't see something like that occurring, the Inquisitor not getting to hear about it and thus wanting to get involved.    Plus I really don't want to wait another 3 years or more before we get to know how this resolves itself.  

 

So I hope the DLC that is being worked upon as we write does in fact involve Solas. 


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It's definitely not the last that we will see of him. I'd just really like to see him again as the Inquisitor, not another new protagonist who has no ties to him and just listens to Solas fleetingly mention the Inquisitor or something.

 

His romance is the best romance story I've seen in any video game. Because in spite of the fact that it left on such a bittersweet note AND had the least amount of content, it is so full of depth and emotion. Even a few days later I still tear up when listening to the love theme!

 

Really hope we get some more substantial content on him, and that it covers the relationship between him (if romanced) and Lavellan.

  
You're so right! I'd never seen a character like him!


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