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Why the lack of freedom to improve Skyhold?


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Fabiano79

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I love having a Fortress to call mine and already spent many hours decoring it. 

 

But what made me kind of sad was that many improvements, weirdly the most importants ones, like the main hall, are unlocked advancing the main quests and not doing Skyhold quests or with money. And being like this, the player dont have the option to choose what to do with these spaces.

 

For example, I came back from the Ball in the Winter Palace and, to my surprise, the scalfolding in my main hall were gone and now theres some tables. I was dreaming of placing dragons heads there...

 

So, If I get this right, I need to travel around the continent looking for quarries to upgrade my garden, but I dont have the freedom to design the main hall and others rooms.

 

If Im correct, this is a wasted oportunity to give the player a lot more to do ingame. 


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You can design the main hall. It's in the "Decor" section.



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You can design the main hall. It's in the "Decor" section.

 

But its not only banners and such? 



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Unless I did something wrong, prepared to be underwhelmed with the three 'major improvements' you can buy.  The herbalism garden adds three pots and nothing else changes.  The tower upgrade puts a couple of npcs on one floor, and the rest of the tower stays ruined.  And the courtyard upgrade for soldiers added a 10' circle with two guys hitting each other in it.

 

Huge swaths of Skyhold remain completely ruined the entire game.  Like pretty much every tower room that doesn't have Cullen in it.


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I completely agree. Doing the main quests makes the best improvements tho. I did the other courtyard that wasnt for training and didnt notice a change at all. The banners and most decor is ridiculous. I want real customization. Like the game a lot but i prefer my party camp and the characters.

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I kinda love the way Skyhold looks in general so I never gave it much thought, but yeah more options would've been cool. i guess it'd be much to wish for a big greenhouse in a fortress.
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The upgrades aren't impressive, but I already have a great and beautiful fortress. It's no big matter. Having said that, that parts of the towers remain ruined is not quite satisfying.



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Unless I did something wrong, prepared to be underwhelmed with the three 'major improvements' you can buy.  The herbalism garden adds three pots and nothing else changes.  The tower upgrade puts a couple of npcs on one floor, and the rest of the tower stays ruined.  And the courtyard upgrade for soldiers added a 10' circle with two guys hitting each other in it.

 

Huge swaths of Skyhold remain completely ruined the entire game.  Like pretty much every tower room that doesn't have Cullen in it.

 

The holes and gaps in Skyhold will be fixed as you level up your reputation. Most of the construction platforms will be removed at lvl 9 reputation and the place will appear more complete.



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The Inquisitor's quarters are pretty posh though, and Sera's is about as colorful as I expected. Overall, Skyhold has a lot of beautiful details in its interior.
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The Inquisitor's quarters are pretty posh though, and Sera's is about as colorful as I expected. Overall, Skyhold has a lot of beautiful details in its interior.

 

No doubt, Skyhold is very well done. I just wanted there was more to do with the place. I enjoy this kind of mechanic and I probably spent dozens of hours in skyrim just building my homes. 

 

Imagine the possibilities of improving a whole fortress, its defences, barracks, guest rooms, merchnts quarters, the tavern, companions rooms etc...Maybe we will see some of this on a DLC.


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Hearthfire set my expectations a bit high. I know, its Skyrim, its Bethesda, and I wasn't doing it consciously but when I saw the options the game does provide I realized on a subconscious level Hearthfire was setting my expectations.


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Unless I did something wrong, prepared to be underwhelmed with the three 'major improvements' you can buy.  The herbalism garden adds three pots and nothing else changes.  The tower upgrade puts a couple of npcs on one floor, and the rest of the tower stays ruined.  And the courtyard upgrade for soldiers added a 10' circle with two guys hitting each other in it.

 

Huge swaths of Skyhold remain completely ruined the entire game.  Like pretty much every tower room that doesn't have Cullen in it.

And even poor Cullen has to sleep under a broken roof--illogical because tower roofs would be a priority, not because of comfort (although how his bed isn't completely ruined I don't know, and how effing cold must the poor lad be?), but because tower roofs are where you put defensive catapaults and mangonels and suchlike.

Given

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, you'd think tower defense would be a huge deal.

Although: my tower upgrade was a mage tower, and it looked quite complete. The hospital fixed one crumbled wall.

My guess: DLC incoming. It's EA.



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No doubt, Skyhold is very well done. I just wanted there was more to do with the place. I enjoy this kind of mechanic and I probably spend dozens of hours in skyrim just building my homes. 

 

Imagine the possibilities of improving a whole fortress, its defences, barracks, guest rooms, merchnts quarters, the tavern, companions rooms etc...Maybe we will see some of this on a DLC.

 

Hey, at least in this game, you can fully explore all the rooms in the fortress. Remember Amaranthine? One main hall? Or Soldiers Peak where you could only poke around inside during the quest and it was clearly designed to be a dungeon that looked like a fortress, not an actual fortress?

 

But I agree, Skyrim kind of spoiled us.



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The holes and gaps in Skyhold will be fixed as you level up your reputation. Most of the construction platforms will be removed at lvl 9 reputation and the place will appear more complete.


No they aren't. Sure, the main hall gets finished, but the towers are still full of junk, the room before the Inquisitor's bedroom remains trashed, the hallway to the war room has gaping holes to the outside in the walls, if you build the templar tower they use maybe 1.5 out of four floors, with a large crack in one corner open to the outside. The room with the mirror remains trashed even after the mirror shows up, one of the curtain walls, by the stables, remains broken, etc etc. the only place that remains trashed that they bother to address is the dungeon, where you can find a letter from the head engineer that says 'I ain't touching this. Could bring down the whole castle'.
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And even poor Cullen has to sleep under a broken roof--illogical because tower roofs would be a priority, not because of comfort (although how his bed isn't completely ruined I don't know, and how effing cold must the poor lad be?), but because tower roofs are where you put defensive catapaults and mangonels and suchlike.
Given

Spoiler
, you'd think tower defense would be a huge deal.
Although: my tower upgrade was a mage tower, and it looked quite complete. The hospital fixed one crumbled wall.
My guess: DLC incoming. It's EA.


Exactly.

I'll try the mage tower, hospital, and chantry repose garden next time.

Does that building near Cass, behind the Inn, ever get repaired? You'd think they'd need storage space, at least, for the quartermaster, or barracks. And does anything ever get put in the vault aside from bottles of dubious vintage you find out in the world being stuck in an easy to miss side room?

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Slightly off topic but, out of curiosity how much gold does the Chantry upgrade give you?



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Slightly off topic but, out of curiosity how much gold does the Chantry upgrade give you?

 

From what I've heard, nothing so far.



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Slightly off topic but, out of curiosity how much gold does the Chantry upgrade give you?

 

I didn't notice any of the upgrades having an effect beyond (barely) cosmetic.  It is possible there might be a war table mission involved?  Not sure.



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And even poor Cullen has to sleep under a broken roof--illogical because tower roofs would be a priority, not because of comfort (although how his bed isn't completely ruined I don't know, and how effing cold must the poor lad be?), but because tower roofs are where you put defensive catapaults and mangonels and suchlike.

Given

Spoiler
, you'd think tower defense would be a huge deal.

Although: my tower upgrade was a mage tower, and it looked quite complete. The hospital fixed one crumbled wall.

My guess: DLC incoming. It's EA.

 

Does that hole in the roof in Cullen's room ever get fixed? It didn't in my game.



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Dragon Age: InquisiSims.

 

I'd have prefered more customization as well, and also I was really expecting my companions to actually move in to the Skyhold and make parts of it their own...Cullen got himself an office and bedroom...Cassandra has a bedroom but shes never in it, Bull and the Chargers apparently live in the Tavern and Blackwall apparently prefers the smell of horse crap as he sleeps compared to perhaps living in an area a bit further away from the stables.

 

I'm not sure why  there were multiple ruined tower rooms, judging from how they're set up..they look like they were originally designed with the intent of companions taking up residence in them and with the exception of main hall dwelling companions...almost no one other than Cullen appears to understand the joys of civilization.


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I just wish I could restore the castle, rebuild it and put some stuff in. Some rooms just never get fixed, the shrine for Andraste for example. We've been living there for weeks (months?) and nobody ever thought of picking up the debris in there?



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In a game where you cannot even drop a bunch of loot on the ground - in lieu of a trunk, camp or stronghold - you cannot do anything that hasn't been scripted specifically and attached to a button, menu or trigger.

Contrast this to worlds like Morrowind where you could do what you wanted, squat in empty flats and store your ingredient/loot collections in the chests there, and decorate your stronghold to your heart's desire. Or tow your favourite merchants to your favourite teleport landing pad and keep them from moving off ever again by selling them enough loot to weigh them down. No dev had to think of that beforehand and program/script it.

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Come on, even Assassin's Creed got the whole upgrading-buildings right. It shouldn't have been too difficult to factor that in with Skyhold.



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I love having a Fortress to call mine and already spent many hours decoring it. 

 

But what made me kind of sad was that many improvements, weirdly the most importants ones, like the main hall, are unlocked advancing the main quests and not doing Skyhold quests or with money. And being like this, the player dont have the option to choose what to do with these spaces.

 

For example, I came back from the Ball in the Winter Palace and, to my surprise, the scalfolding in my main hall were gone and now theres some tables. I was dreaming of placing dragons heads there...

 

So, If I get this right, I need to travel around the continent looking for quarries to upgrade my garden, but I dont have the freedom to design the main hall and others rooms.

 

If Im correct, this is a wasted oportunity to give the player a lot more to do ingame. 

 

It's not only that...it's all the useless SPACE (come on - why 6 pots for plants only? I wanted a damned greenhouse...or a real chappel if going for the place of worship...or to really forge weapons for my damned army, do research with my mage tower etc. -.- Oh and I wanted that damned hole in the wall next to my war-room (diplomacy-room is more accurate, as you don't really move armies on the "war"-table) fixed...sun is nice, but if it rains/snows it will snow in through the hole...something I don't really like :( )

 

greetings LAX



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Do you guys know if you can have the towers repaired? Or the hallway to my quarters? Or the hallway to the warroom?