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[nt95]

What I don't like is Bioware sold the idea of upgrading Skyhold to be a big part of the game but it's actually a VERY small part and VERY small impact on the game. 

[Skyrunner_Morgan]

By the end of my first game Skyhold was filled with broken roofs, still damaged walls, non repaired zones/towers, Skyhold's main building STILL had holes in its roof and wooden scaffolds were still all over the place.

The "major" cosmetic changes are a little bit of a joke considering a closer look at them:
- The Infirmary is a small building where wounder or ill patients are being treated on straw beds instead of lying in proper beds while grass glithces through the floor. Sometimes the room is empty while the physician is tending to an invizible patient or cleaning the floor of glitching grass. (I picked this first because I was tired of seing wounded or ill people being treated in the dirt instead of being tended to properly)

- The Practice Ground is a bit better if you ignore the sometimes un-syncronized participants in their spars.

- The Mage/Templar tower is nothing "major" with the exception of a banner and a different floor setting. Templars have nice carpets and a miniature prayer shrine to Andraste like Leliana has, while the mages have more books and book shelves lying around.

- Chantry Garden, I was expecting statues crafted like the ones of Andraste in the Emerald Graves or the Origin versions of her statue. Instead you get a modern art version of something that looks like her and another thing I think is a totem of some sort.

 

I still love Skyhold and I love wondering around it to my heart's content. I just wanted to find a use for all those construction materials from quaries and logging stands I kept marking in hopes that the keep might fix itself up either by gathering materials or by questing. it was neither in the end of me.

Perhaps in future pathces or DLC's BioWare might look into this matter. 

[Haidaes]

I still wonder why no one bothered to pick up the chandalier in the prayer room. While my character kept telling everyone he doesn't believe in the maker crap, it still leaves a bad impression for all those pilgrim morons . Especailly considering I took the chantry garden upgrade (at least it was pretty compared to 3 flower pots...). And while the mage tower was pathetic (took me ages to find it, because I always thought they talked about the round tower and not that tiny house on the outer wall) it was refreshing that for a change no one was bitching about me choosing sides...

[pvpgirl]

 

 

Huge swaths of Skyhold remain completely ruined the entire game.  Like pretty much every tower room that doesn't have Cullen in it.

I would point out that is the only room that matters...but his roof never gets fixed.  And there's always messy piles of rotted wood laying around.  

 

I agree, though.  So much of improving Skyhold was underwhelming.  The Chantry garden looks like a bunch of weeds.  The herb garden is barley worth bothering with.  There really doesn't seem to be a difference between which tower you pick.  If you pick a triage station for the courtyard, there are still sick people all over the place, just now the building next to the quartermaster is fixed and has sick people in it, too.  I haven't seen the troop training courtyard upgrade, but I hear it's equally blah.  I suppose I was expecting something more impressive...perhaps a fully cobbled courtyard where a squad could drill? Or more than 6 pots to put the herbs in.  The minor changes that occur now, I don't see why both upgrades couldn't be picked simply because each changes that little.  

 

Meanwhile, that hall on the way to the War Table never gets fixed.  

[dmc24]

bioware needs to make a patch or dlc for skyhold and customization in general. so we can finally fix the towers and put a roof over cullen, fix the outside wall by the stables and the wall by the war room needs to be fixed as well, and huge more grand customizations for the three main upgrades. yes they need to fix the bugs in the game but once that is done they should get on this immediately.

[Kleon]

DLC

[Demon Velsper]

but I already have a great and beautiful fortress.

 

There's a giant hole in the hallway leading to your War Room.

There's scaffolding and birds pooping in the staircase to your Quarters.

There's a huge part of the outer wall missing.

There's weeds, puddles and a building that's fallen over in your courtyard.

Cullen has a frickin' hole in the roof of his bedroom.

 

I mean, "I love you, warts and all" is fair enough but let's not pretend that these are beauty marks.

 

As an aside, has anyone actually been able to collect that tithe the Chantry Garden promises when you build it?

[cljqnsnyc]

LOL! You really don't know the reason why Skyhold was left in such a state of disrepair?

 

Paid extra content, AKA, DLC

 

Another reason why there aren't any modding tools.

 

But, as I type, modders are working to unlock this engines secrets.

 

Let's see who gets there first.

[outherelistening]

I'm inclined to think a "ran out of development time" narrative rather than "cash grab." The game is massive and had to be developed for a LOT of platforms; BioWare would've had to prioritize features, and I suspect "appearance of mostly-unused portions of Skyhold" fell to the bottom. From Scylla Costa's message last week: "As massive as Dragon Age: Inquisition already is, there were some things the team wanted to get in at launch, but we just ran out of time. We’ll be creating these new features and content and adding them into your game over time because we love our DAI players."

 

I'm inclined to believe that. The Skyhold customization really feels unfinished (and I guess that sort of appropriate.) There's a disproportionate number of logging stands and quarries given the number of Skyhold upgrades that make any difference, and just about everyone has sounded disappointed about how little the two we have matter.

 

I have mixed feelings about Skyhold, myself. At first, I found it tremendously impressive - because it is - but I ultimately found there's very little reason to access maybe half of it, and it feels like there are missing features all over the place. For instance, the first time my Inquisitor served judgment, I sentenced them to jail, assuming that I'd be able to still interact/change my mind later. I was really disappointed to find that, although the character did, indeed, show up in the jail, it was cosmetic. The guard keeps remarking on how there are no prisoners.

 

I'm bugged by the seemingly random nature of the unfinished areas, too, as well as the empty, ramshackle rooms. It doesn't detract from my enjoyment all that much, though; it just leaves me with fewer reasons than I'd like for exploring Skyhold.

[Jukaga]

Unless I did something wrong, prepared to be underwhelmed with the three 'major improvements' you can buy.  The herbalism garden adds three pots and nothing else changes.  The tower upgrade puts a couple of npcs on one floor, and the rest of the tower stays ruined.  And the courtyard upgrade for soldiers added a 10' circle with two guys hitting each other in it.

 

Huge swaths of Skyhold remain completely ruined the entire game.  Like pretty much every tower room that doesn't have Cullen in it.

 

Yup. What were they smoking when they decided that was good enough. The stairs up to your quarters stays in ruin the whole time as well, with an out of place templar banner hanging there. There are dozens of layabouts in skyhold. Get a trowel and some bricks and get to work, or GTFO of my castle. This isn't a 'hide from the end of the world for free' stronghold. You want to eat? You work.

[Jukaga]

The more influence you gain, the more repair the tower becomes. That is why I am taking my time with the main mission, have two to go but I am focusing on all the side objectives now.

 

 

No. It's tied to your progress in the main story. You could max out influence and the ruined parts of the castle stay ruined.

[RepHope]

I'm really disappointed in Skyhold. The customization is rather pathetic and unimpressive. I seriously hope Bioware patches options in rather than charging ANOTHER 10$ to fix the holes in the damn wall.

[zeypher]

Skyhold is functionally useless. IT is more or less a bigger normandy with all the bs running to find your companions, serves no real purpose. Honestly the party camp from origins was by far the best thing, simple, quick to load to, everyone nearby. Now i have 3 merchants when 1 would do the job a LOT of pointless running around to get to stuff and the best part i have no clue how anyone even gets to the damn place.

[Lucky Thirteen]

Every time I did an upgrade, I'd spent a good 30 minutes going around Skyhold trying to figure out what exactly upgraded.

 

It kind of reminded me of when I played Assassins Creed Black Flag, and when I'd upgrade the ship, it'd do that whole cut scene showing the ship all shiny but I couldn't see any changes. 

[Joseph Warrick]

To be clear, is nothing at risk if I don't invest any money or effort in Skyold?

[pvpgirl]

To be clear, is nothing at risk if I don't invest any money or effort in Skyold?

Correct.  The 'upgrades' are so minor that there is barely a difference at all.  Six pots in the garden instead of two.  Weeds instead of...weeds if you go the Chantry garden route.  A make shift practice ring where two guys are fighting or that building in the corner by the quartermaster gets fixed for a first aid station...the practice ring is pathetic, and there's still people lying around where the surgeon was originally tending to the sick.  A tower with a mage banner, or a tower with a templar banner.  The changes are so minor, I don't see why you shouldn't be able to do both (except maybe the tower, there is, afterall, only one tower).

 

Yet the keep wall by the stable never gets fixed, or the hall wall on the way to the war room, and no one ever picks up that damn chandelier in the 'chantry'.  

 

Good thing Cory doesn't decide to assault the keep.

[ChloeT]

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Skyhold is functionally useless.... honestly the party camp from origins was by far the best thing

I agreed. The only thing I ever do in skyhold is sell my good (can't hoard stuff anymore), talk to people and leave. I was really impress with skyhold at the beginning I had spend countless hour looking for quarry and logging station to fix skyhold but sadly the construction was disappointed. Lot of the area is still in ruin. My poor command (my romance choice) still has no roof over his head (can't believe they did that to him). I barely go in or uses my room because I can't do anything in there. As least in origin I can constantly demand Allistair to spend the night with me in my tent, but here, all I can do is ask for a kiss. There is no use for the damn room.

[Korhiann]

To be clear, is nothing at risk if I don't invest any money or effort in Skyold?

 

As far as anyone here knows there is no reason to spend time or resources on the keep upgrades, besides perhaps the garden one if you really want those extra pots. Other than that you won't be punished in any way if you just ignore that part of the game.