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[Lulupab]

well its cause they will think its Elven plot, they opinion on Elves is low, if human sides with Bri then Inquisitor is a example how is right & that they are wrong, they mite not like it, but they keep their moth shut,  if one powerful Human sees Elves differently its a bigger & harder message that: u Elve haters are Idiots! but if Elven Inquisitor support her its like, he supports her cause hes an Elf to & so they don't take it seriously & they don't see their wrong, & i was not talking about Briala and Gaspard, i was talking about Bri & Celene, if its with out Gas then Inquisitor has to be human or it will be said that only the alliance keeps her on throne, if its human she has no problems, as far as i heard, in ur case cause hes Elf they fear cause ur Herald, they think its like going against their god if they go against u, with human its just that u give a example so they back down, so in ur case they want to go against Bri but holding back cause of u, its like ho people believe more ex con who say's hes innocent or a another ex con who say's he is or a witness who say's he is? witness?  OFC!!! cause Elven Inquisitor  standing up for elves is for them like ex con backing ex con, so its logical, its how humans would behave in Orley people chose

 

Actually if you are not an elf, the nobles rebel. There, another war.

 

 

BDW human warrior is Cannon, i don't really care that it is, but it is, cause only human warrior get 1 extra skill point in the beginning, its like Dev's made it to support cannon char, i so my lvl up sing flashing the hole time sins i started to walk, in games they give bonuses like that only for canon char if only one race with 1 class has that bonus

 

A female elf has the most unique playthrough and most people agree it overshadows all others. Given the fact that ranged damage dealers are the biggest threats in the game, the racial is the best in the game, on all classes.

[thesuperdarkone2]

BDW human warrior is Cannon, i don't really care that it is, but it is, cause only human warrior get 1 extra skill point in the beginning, its like Dev's made it to support cannon char, i so my lvl up sing flashing the hole time sins i started to walk, in games they give bonuses like that only for canon char if only one race with 1 class has that bonus

Humans of any class get the extra skill point, not just warriors. There is no canon.

[Sugram84]

Actually if you are not an elf, the nobles rebel. There, another war.

 

 

 

A female elf has the most unique playthrough and most people agree it overshadows all others. Given the fact that ranged damage dealers are the biggest threats in the game, the racial is the best in the game, on all classes.

well i like Elves more to, i most of my chars are Elves, 2 humans , for some reason i make a lot of Elves

 

 

& about the other thing, that what i wanted to say, got few things mixed up, but that why the ending mentioned events that way, like i explained, cause if human is inquisitor he sets a example, & if a Elf is... then its like my example with Ex Con, that's why they rebel & that's why only ur alliance with her keeps her on her throne, got few things mixed up, i guess i was more tiered then i though

[ctd757]

What do I have to do to reunite them. Celene and Briala?

[ctd757]

When I played as elf I didn't know how to side with Briala and keep Celene alive.

[LobselVith8]

What do I have to do to reunite them. Celene and Briala?

 

The shorthand version: you need to find an elven locket in Celene's room, reveal to Briala (in the ballroom) that Celene kept her locket, present it to Celene's handmaidens (who are also in the ballroom) so you can gain an audience with the Empress, prevent the assassination, tell Celene that Briala helped you, and then tell Celene that Briala should be rewarded.

 

You need to be careful because there are a limited number of halla statutes, and you can't use them to open every door, since it will lock you out of certain doors. You also need to find evidence against Gaspard to present to Celene.

 

When I played as elf I didn't know how to side with Briala and keep Celene alive.

 

You can't support Briala to take control of Orlais and keep Celene alive.

[Anvos]

Personally I found myself favoring Gaspard and at the time of the quest it seems to be an optimal ending for Celene to die a martyr reunifying Orlais against Corypheous and the leader of a rabbit rebellion executed.

 

Also I find it easier to trust an honorable chevalier who is running on a platform of limiting the influence of the Game.  (also outside the in game stuff I found the book left me far more sympathetic to Gaspard)

[ctd757]

How do I make Briala a noble and keep Celene

[Lulupab]

How do I make Briala a noble and keep Celene

 

By reconciling them. Find the amulet in Celene's quarters at the grand apartments, show it to Celene's triple ladies and then show it to Briala. Celene makes Briala Marquise (female Marquis)

[Milan92]

Gaspard has to die as well.

 

You can't exile him, otherwise it won't work.

[Lulupab]

You cannot get an epilogue with stability in Orlais without killing someone. 

[ctd757]

Oh ok thanks guys

[ShallowlLife9871]

I think all three are horrible:

 

Celene had Briala's parents killed to GET her throne, then lied to her about it so she could use Briala as a spy and a means to get sleep. 

also, if she was really for peace for Orlais- she would have said yes to Gaspard's marriage offer and used her knowledge of the game to keep him form war.

 

Briala , while she is in love in celene was more intrested in useing her posistion of mistress and spy master to further her own cause for the elves [ and while i believe this is a good thing, you can't believe that Briala wasn't useing celene even a little bit.]

 

Gaspard just want's war and belives that he can rule a empire that loves it's game of manipulation and power with soldiers. not a wise move. the only point in his favor was that he did try to end the power struggle peaceful with the marriage proposal.[ and yes, this was a play for him to get power, but he tried to end it before it began]

 

the only characters I ended up likening was that Dalish Elf [ i forgot his name] and  Ser Micheal. 

[dragonflight288]

Personally I found myself favoring Gaspard and at the time of the quest it seems to be an optimal ending for Celene to die a martyr reunifying Orlais against Corypheous and the leader of a rabbit rebellion executed.

 

Also I find it easier to trust an honorable chevalier who is running on a platform of limiting the influence of the Game.  (also outside the in game stuff I found the book left me far more sympathetic to Gaspard)

 

He is also running a platform of declaring war, and outright tells the Inquisitor this if you talk to him. 

 

If you think this is a good idea then by all means, I just know that my Inquisitor was fighting to restore order and stability and he disagreed with war being a stabilizing force. 

[Steelcan]

He is also running a platform of declaring war, and outright tells the Inquisitor this if you talk to him. 

 

If you think this is a good idea then by all means, I just know that my Inquisitor was fighting to restore order and stability and he disagreed with war being a stabilizing force. 

and as we see in the war table mission, he is perfectly amenable to a peace treaty with Ferelden and abiding it

[dragonflight288]

and as we see in the war table mission, he is perfectly amenable to a peace treaty with Ferelden and abiding it

 

Ah. 

 

I haven't done that since he wasn't the emperor without limits in any of my playthroughs. I was about to roleplay an Inquisitor who does that though.

 

Tell me, does the epilogue show him abiding the peace treaty?

[Lulupab]

I think all three are horrible:
 
Celene had Briala's parents killed to GET her throne, then lied to her about it so she could use Briala as a spy and a means to get sleep. 
also, if she was really for peace for Orlais- she would have said yes to Gaspard's marriage offer and used her knowledge of the game to keep him form war.
 
Briala , while she is in love in celene was more intrested in useing her posistion of mistress and spy master to further her own cause for the elves [ and while i believe this is a good thing, you can't believe that Briala wasn't useing celene even a little bit.]
 
Gaspard just want's war and belives that he can rule a empire that loves it's game of manipulation and power with soldiers. not a wise move. the only point in his favor was that he did try to end the power struggle peaceful with the marriage proposal.[ and yes, this was a play for him to get power, but he tried to end it before it began]
 
the only characters I ended up likening was that Dalish Elf [ i forgot his name] and  Ser Micheal.

Briala is willing to forgive, we shouldn't be passing judgement when its all on her. Besides what's one relationship compared to fate of a whole nation? Celene reconciling with Briala provides best epilogue with best stability for Orlais (Gaspard killed). There will be no one and nothing left to oppose. The Empire will prosper, foreign relations getting even better and elves getting better lives without damaging Orlais itself.

[Steelcan]

Ah. 

 

I haven't done that since he wasn't the emperor without limits in any of my playthroughs. I was about to roleplay an Inquisitor who does that though.

 

Tell me, does the epilogue show him abiding the peace treaty?

yes

 

he moves troops away from the Ferelden border, and deploys them along the Tevinter one instead, but he doesn't seem to declare war on them

[thesuperdarkone2]

Ah. 

 

I haven't done that since he wasn't the emperor without limits in any of my playthroughs. I was about to roleplay an Inquisitor who does that though.

 

Tell me, does the epilogue show him abiding the peace treaty?

Do note that nothing in the game indicates peace is an option so you help him on the belief he's going to war. You could also let him invade as nobody knows what that epilogue does.

[Steelcan]

Do note that nothing in the game indicates peace is an option so you help him on the belief he's going to war. You could also let him invade as nobody knows what that epilogue does.

>nothing indicates peace is an option

>war table mission for peace between the two

[dragonflight288]

yes

 

he moves troops away from the Ferelden border, and deploys them along the Tevinter one instead, but he doesn't seem to declare war on them

 

Thanks. 

[Barquiel]

Celene had Briala's parents killed to GET her throne, then lied to her about it so she could use Briala as a spy and a means to get sleep. 
also, if she was really for peace for Orlais- she would have said yes to Gaspard's marriage offer and used her knowledge of the game to keep him form war.

Celene tried to send Briala away after that but she came back. And I don't think a marriage would have worked. Gaspard was too power-hungry for this to work out and his ideas (especially the war with Ferelden) were simply not compatible with Celene's goals.

[Steelcan]

Celene tried to send Briala away after that but she came back. And I don't think a marriage would have worked. Gaspard was too power-hungry for this to work out and his ideas (especially the war with Ferelden) were simply not compatible with Celene's goals.

it was Gaspard's idea though, he was clearly ok with marrying her and ruling jointly

[dragonflight288]

Oh please, as if players never used metagaming to get an optimal outcome before.

 

I know I do. 

[AutumnWitch]

Celene and Briala

Sitting in tree,

K I S S I N G.

First comes lust,

then comes sedition.

Then comes a dagger,

thrust by the Inquisition.

 

(Moral of the story: Don’t screw with a red-headed Elf unless you mean it.)