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[ThomasBlaine]

I'm a dual wielding rogue using Solas as my support mage/ranged DPS for a number of reasons. I like him better than Vivienne, I trust him more than Vivienne and his knowledge about the fade and experience as an apostate is a lot more relevant to the whole breach crisis than whatever it is Vivienne thinks she has going for her. Vivienne might be useful for press conferences or whatever, but Solas is the guy I take with me into the field.

 

And I'm getting creamed on Normal difficulty. And people here keep talking about the Knight Enchanter specialization saving their butts over and over again. Is it really that crucial?

 

 

[themikefest]

It wasn't for me. I finished my first playthrough yesterday without having a knight enchanter. I played as a mage and didn't get my specialization until very late in the game. I became a rift mage, but at that point I didn't need it since I went ahead and beat the game. I don't know how well it will work on hard/nightmare difficulty, but I might play as one when I do my nightmare run to get the trophy.

[Ganen]

tbh I think it makes more of a difference if the mage is your actual main character, cuz between solas and vivi (rift mage and knight enchanter used by the AI) I been having way better results with solas using his rifts CC and debuffs than vivi's tanking/dmg.

 

if not played by you, the AI doesnt know how to use a knight enchanter really, while it used fairly well the rift mage stuff (you can setup favorites to help out even more)

[day83]

You can use the knight-enchanter as a ranged spell caster by turning off the spirit blade ability if you really want the focus heal.   

[Back Lot Basher]

tbh I think it makes more of a difference if the mage is your actual main character, cuz between solas and vivi (rift mage and knight enchanter used by the AI) I been having way better results with solas using his rifts CC and debuffs than vivi's tanking/dmg.

 

if not played by you, the AI doesnt know how to use a knight enchanter really, while it used fairly well the rift mage stuff (you can setup favorites to help out even more)

 

This is the situation I'm in.  I play as a mage Inquisitor, so I'll probably go with KE.  Loved Arcane Warrior in DA:O.  Solas also seems like an important part of the storyline, with his Fade connection, so I'm thinking I'll want him along.  I mostly sub in others only if I'm doing exploration in new areas, just to hear the banter.

[Sevitan7]

Yes, I went through Nightmare with 3 melee + Solas. Upgrading your gear will solve most of your difficulty related problems. The most difficult part of the game I found the period between getting Skyhold and getting Tier 3 schematics (which for me was level 10 to 15), shouldn't have explored so much and picked up the tier 3 schematics sooner.

[Back Lot Basher]

Can you elaborate on the Tier 3 schematics a bit more?  Is it quest related?  Something to be pursued soon after getting Skyhold?

[Sevitan7]

Hissing wastes has Tier 3 armor schematics. The armors cost about 3K each I think and the upgrades around 1K, so it takes some cash. Emprise du Lion has tier 3 weapon schematics, though only after you complete the main area quest. Both areas have the type of ore you will want to use in the armor when crafting.

 

You may need to google the location of Tier 3 merchant in Hissing Wastes, I'm away from the game to take a screenshot, but you can just run in there, avoid all enemies and buy the stuff most likely once you know where it is.

 

[Draining Dragon]

nope

[Sriep]

And I'm getting creamed on Normal difficulty. And people here keep talking about the Knight Enchanter specialization saving their butts over and over again. Is it really that crucial?

No one is indespensable. However that said I always seem to have Viv in the party during any really difficult fights.

[Zoralink]

I had no problems with myself as a rift mage, Dorian as necromancer, Varric as... Varric, and Iron Bull as my tank.

[Murloc Knight]

Deciding on that last party member is really hard for me as a mage, A tank and rogue should always be in the party, while I'm conflicted between solas and iron bull for the last part. I love the banters with iron bull while solas feels like an important part of the story.

[Nathonaws]

It's single player dude, just do whatever you want. That's what hardcore RPG games are all about  - choice. Yes, a lot of people are claiming that KE is overpowered. But once again, it's single player, not a competition. Just use whatever characters/specs you want - you're not required to use anything.

 

I'm running triple mage + rogue right now as my party on Hard/nightmare and its working out just fine, even though we dont have a tank. Just try to keep your party synergized (like having different schools of magic, having at least some spirit support spells, plenty of CC, etc).

[SpaceV3gan]

Absolutely. The only critical moments that Viviene has played an important role in my party were two Dragon fights on which I was only 1 level above them. Otherwise I hardly keep her on my team, though I love her banters.
Regarding those two Dragons, they went down very smoothly, playing on Hard. I increased it to Nightmare after 40 hours in because the game overall was getting too easy. Unless I come across something really challenging I will probably not bring her.
Knight Enchanter is very powerful, but not essential at all - certainly not on Normal.
Probably all you need is to avoid encounters above your level and invest time in crafting.
 

[Deebo305]

Yep, aside from killing Dragons I say you survive just fine without them

[Pi2r Epsilon]

And I'm getting creamed on Normal difficulty. And people here keep talking about the Knight Enchanter specialization saving their butts over and over again. Is it really that crucial?

Not at all.

 

I realize that this isn't all that helpful to say, but if you are getting creamed on normal difficulty when fighting enemies that don't outlevel you it is not because of the party members you have chosen, but because you are doing something wrong, either tactically or strategically.

 

But what?

 

Without further details about how you've invested the ability points for your party and what sort of equipment you give them - you *have* realized the importance of crafting good equipment for your party, I hope - there's no way for us advice on the strategic level. On the tactical level, the game is so simple that it is unlikely you are making any major mistakes on normal difficulty, which is very forgiving of mistakes outside dragon/boss fights, since you have undoubtedly tried several different approaches before asking for help.

 

The two major components in not being creamed is your support mage Solas - it sounds as if you are running a 1 mage party? - and whomever you use to tank. (I assume you use a tank, since playing without anybody tanking, while doable on normal, is rather messier.)

 

Could you please post how you've assigned their ability points, what level they are, and what equipment they have?