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[Charcoal15]

ah, so I'm immature now.  Thanks for that snide insinuation. 

Do note that I never mentioned you and in fact never thought of you in my mind at all when typing that, defensive much?

[daveliam]

Lol, I have so many female friends who would have killed to romance Cass with a female Inquisitor.

 

I would have killed to have Cassandra available for my lady dwarf.

 

I'm not thrilled with either f/f romance, so I'm either going to not romance someone with her or, more likely, reimagine the character as bisexual and go for Blackwall instead. 

[Former_Fiend]

Sera isn't a big fan of Dalish or magic, so goes against Xil. 

 

Ah, yea, that makes sense. 

 

Not much to worry about, then.

[TheJediSaint]

Sera....scares me. She's freaking weird. I didn't like her character at all.

She's weird, inconsistent, and I don't understand half the things she says.  I love her!

[Xilizhra]

There are many reasons people may wait that those wouldn't possibly cover, so it is limiting. Also in DAI there is dialogue with the sex scene so those who don't partake in it would miss out on a character building moment, thus isn't fair to those who don't want it. This way everyone experiences the romance and character equally. 

Can you name some?

 

And no, I do not experience the romance equally; I'm screwed out of a major character-building moment.

 

 

But don't you understand that the type of sexual relationship that you are describing as your preference would be "forced" on people who don't like that type, right?  Pretty much all of the other DA relationships attend to the type of relationship that you are talking about, so why not allow others to get their preferences too?

I'm certain that all desires could be covered reasonably well. One doesn't even have to cut out sex-scene based dialogue if one can make an alternate scene at some point if you don't want sex at all, and it can easily be animation-light, like Josephine's actual scene, so it wouldn't involve a significant amount of extra work.

 

Also, Sera can be an absolutely vicious ****** when it comes to any matters elven.

[daveliam]

 

I'm certain that all desires could be covered reasonably well. One doesn't even have to cut out sex-scene based dialogue if one can make an alternate scene at some point if you don't want sex at all, and it can easily be animation-light, like Josephine's actual scene, so it wouldn't involve a significant amount of extra work.

 

 

I wouldn't mind having the option to make either be sexual or non-sexual in a romance.  It might go a long way to please people and would be a fairly easy solution, I would suppose.  I'm not a writer nor designer, though, so I have almost no idea how much work it would entail to create alternate arcs for a romance in reality.

[Ianamus]

I genuinely think it's perfectly fine that Josephine's relationship is not sexual during the course of the game.  It fits her character.  Plus, it's all about offering variety in the romances. 

 

Look at the romances for gay males.  One is a forced BDSM relationship.  That's certainly not everyone's cup of tea, but I have no issue with it being included because it is some people's cup of tea, so why not have that in the game for those people.  The same way that Josephine's romance arc appeals to some players as well. 

 

And there's not even anything to say that it's definitely not sexual over the course of the game. Unlike Iron Bull's, which has very blatant BDSM elements, Josephine's romance is neither explicitly sexual or explicitly non-sexual.

 

Even if it is, there's nothing wrong with taking things slowly. The game over covers a few months. 

[daveliam]

And there's not even anything to say that it's definitely not sexual over the course of the game. Unlike Iron Bull's, which has very blatant BDSM elements, Josephine's romance is neither explicitly sexual or explicitly non-sexual.

 

Interesting.  I've never done it personally.  Josephine isn't really my type of gal (she's too soft and romantic for my liking), so I'm only going off of what people have said on the boards.  If it's up to personal interpretation as to whether there is a sexual relationship, then does this whole thing boil down to being able to see them in the sexual act?  Is that why people are unsatisfied with the romance, because they don't get to actually see them having sex?

[Charcoal15]

People with differing opinions can never seem to get along, this thread proves that. Does it really matter that much if Josie has a sex scene or not? If you got one, some people would say they liked it without one, in the case that you do not get one, this case here, some people say they want one. There are romances with sex in the game and some without, the game is a good game, if you paid for the game and got annoyed because you felt you also paid for a sex scene then thats a bit silly. Do not bite the hand that feeds you, sex in this game exists, want it? Use another romance. Hate the other romances and still want animated sex? Use google.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Can you name some?

 

And no, I do not experience the romance equally; I'm screwed out of a major character-building moment.

 

Player is asexual

Player is demisexual

Player wants to get married first 

Player wants to wait until after Corypheus is dealt with

Player just wants to wait

Player has had bad experience with it in the past

 

I could keep going, but that is six which means more than they could offer in the dialogue wheel(since one would be to retract your statement) thus one of these and all others would be left out. 

 

 

Interesting.  I've never done it personally.  Josephine isn't really my type of gal (she's too soft and romantic for my liking), so I'm only going off of what people have said on the boards.  If it's up to personal interpretation as to whether there is a sexual relationship, then does this whole thing boil down to being able to see them in the sexual act?  Is that why people are unsatisfied with the romance, because they don't get to actually see them having sex?

Yes, people are complaining because they don't get to see the sex. 

[Xilizhra]

Interesting.  I've never done it personally.  Josephine isn't really my type of gal (she's too soft and romantic for my liking), so I'm only going off of what people have said on the boards.  If it's up to personal interpretation as to whether there is a sexual relationship, then does this whole thing boil down to being able to see them in the sexual act?  Is that why people are unsatisfied with the romance, because they don't get to actually see them having sex?

I thought you had no types of gals.

 

 

People with differing opinions can never seem to get along, this thread proves that. Does it really matter that much if Josie has a sex scene or not? If you got one, some people would say they liked it without one, in the case that you do not get one, this case here, some people say they want one. There are romances with sex in the game and some without, the game is a good game, if you paid for the game and got annoyed because you felt you also paid for a sex scene then thats a bit silly. Do not bite the hand that feeds you, sex in this game exists, want it? Use another romance. Hate the other romances and still want animated sex? Use google.

Yes, it does matter. And the only other romance with sex that I can have is with someone who's... extremely not compatible with me. I don't consider this fair, and if Bioware is so sensitive that they consider this biting... well, adversor et admorsus.

[Ianamus]

Interesting.  I've never done it personally.  Josephine isn't really my type of gal (she's too soft and romantic for my liking), so I'm only going off of what people have said on the boards.  If it's up to personal interpretation as to whether there is a sexual relationship, then does this whole thing boil down to being able to see them in the sexual act?  Is that why people are unsatisfied with the romance, because they don't get to actually see them having sex?

 

Basically, yes. 

 

You see them kissing and nuzzling on the couch, and at the end Josephine says that she will always be at your side. It's never said what they did or didn't do together beyond what you saw, that's left for interpretation. 

[Xilizhra]

Player is asexual

Player is demisexual

Player wants to get married first 

Player wants to wait until after Corypheus is dealt with

Player just wants to wait

Player has had bad experience with it in the past

 

I could keep going, but that is six which means more than they could offer in the dialogue wheel(since one would be to retract your statement) thus one of these and all others would be left out.

There are [more] options on the wheel from time to time that lead to another tree. You can pack more in.

 

Or you could make the sex scene player-triggered and remove all of those problems at a stroke.

[AresKeith]

Interesting.  I've never done it personally.  Josephine isn't really my type of gal (she's too soft and romantic for my liking), so I'm only going off of what people have said on the boards.  If it's up to personal interpretation as to whether there is a sexual relationship, then does this whole thing boil down to being able to see them in the sexual act?  Is that why people are unsatisfied with the romance, because they don't get to actually see them having sex?

 

Yep

[prosthetic soul]

It's a shame.  Josephine's romance could have been a lot more interesting. 

[EmperorSahlertz]

 

I would like to say that despite my statements I'm not opposed to Josephine's inclusion as she is. Not everyone's tastes are my tastes.

 

I would be lying if I said I didn't wish there was a third option. I do enjoy Cassandra's romance but I think that with her only having been with one person and Josephine having been with no one that there could be a wider spectrum.

Josephine is not inexperienced.. She's been with Lelianna for example.. So... Yeah..

 

Hardly. Create one refusal option and then create another dialogue tree thereafter explaining your reason.

That is a lot of work for something largely irrelevant. Far easier is it, to leave it ambigious so that people can head-canon, and then let people miss out on the bewbs.

[Xilizhra]

That is a lot of work for something largely irrelevant. Far easier is it, to leave it ambigious so that people can head-canon, and then let people miss out on the bewbs.

From an overall story perspective, all romances are irrelevant. If they're going to make roleplaying options like this, they should do them properly.

[Charcoal15]

 

 

Yes, it does matter. And the only other romance with sex that I can have is with someone who's... extremely not compatible with me. I don't consider this fair, and if Bioware is so sensitive that they consider this biting... well, adversor et admorsus.

At the same time, Josie has a romance arc like any other, there is no sex, in return you get two romantic scenes and the duel, some will prefer this, some would prefer sex, they cant please everyone. If you want to see sex then theres plenty on places to see it. Its like saying "rogues use a bow and mages can not, this is not fair, and no I will not be a rogue because it is not compatible with me" but at then end of the day, the option is there, you just do not like it.

[AresKeith]

It's a shame. Josephine's romance could have been a lot more interesting.

Well that's like... your opinion

[prosthetic soul]

At the same time, Josie has a romance arc like any other, there is no sex, in return you get two romantic scenes and the duel, some will prefer this, some would prefer sex, they cant please everyone. If you want to see sex then theres plenty on places to see it. Its like saying "rogues use a bow and mages can not, this is not fair, and no I will not be a rogue because it is not compatible with me" but at then end of the day, the option is there, you just do not like it.

If the other characters get a sex scene, why can't she?

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Josephine is not inexperienced.. She's been with Lelianna for example.. So... Yeah..

No, she hasn't. Sheryl Chee, Leliana's writer, flat out said Leliana and Josephine have never been together like that. Plus Leliana ingame says that Josephine has never been with anyone before, calling her innocent and Josephine says they are like sisters and gets upset if you ask if they were lovers by saying "Did you not just hear me say she is like a sister!".

[AresKeith]

Josephine is not inexperienced.. She's been with Lelianna for example.. So... Yeah..

If you mean sexual, they never did

[Hellion Rex]

 

 

Josephine is not inexperienced.. She's been with Lelianna for example.. So... Yeah..

 

 

Actually, Sheryl Chee came onto the boards to confirm that Josephine has never had sex with Leliana.

[Hellion Rex]

At the same time, Josie has a romance arc like any other, there is no sex, in return you get two romantic scenes and the duel, some will prefer this, some would prefer sex, they cant please everyone. If you want to see sex then theres plenty on places to see it. Its like saying "rogues use a bow and mages can not, this is not fair, and no I will not be a rogue because it is not compatible with me" but at then end of the day, the option is there, you just do not like it.

Hell, I thought the duel scene was so freakin awesome! And its something entirely unique and amazing to Josie's romance.

[AresKeith]

If the other characters get a sex scene, why can't she?

She's not the only one without it