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[Rawgrim]

I bet it stems from customizing Hawke in some way.

 

Probably not, actually. I never customized Hawke. I used the default Hawke in DA2, and stuck with it in this game.

[LinksOcarina]

I'm not sure why this is some revelation to people.

 

I can beat every BW game within 25 - 30 hours. Always.

 

Those 50+ hour playthroughs of DAO baffle me. That game does not take that long.

 

To be fair, it did for me the first time I played, because I didn't know where everything was yet. 

[LinksOcarina]

Probably not, actually. I never customized Hawke. I used the default Hawke in DA2, and stuck with it in this game.

 

Wow. Then yeah, that's a strange one. I wonder what is causing it. Maybe the recent patch that was put out for consoles?

[Rawgrim]

I'm not sure why this is some revelation to people.

 

I can beat every BW game within 25 - 30 hours. Always.

 

Those 50+ hour playthroughs of DAO baffle me. That game does not take that long.

 

I agree. DAO is still my favorite, but it never took me 50 hours to complete. 30 something, at the most. DA2 took me around 20, I think. Without the DLC.

[Rawgrim]

Wow. Then yeah, that's a strange one. I wonder what is causing it. Maybe the recent patch that was put out for consoles?

 

The conversations are a bit cutscene'ish, so maybe the problem is there. Some bad scripting or whatever. The Dorian convo was more or less a cutscene too, now that I think of it.

[Nyaore]

I agree. DAO is still my favorite, but it never took me 50 hours to complete. 30 something, at the most. DA2 took me around 20, I think. Without the DLC.

It's pretty much the same for me, hell even ME1 could be beaten in 15-18 hours pretty easily. Less if you jump through the dialogues quickly. I'm actually curious what the speed run statistics will be for DA:I. I've seen 0:35 minutes for Origins.

[Ryzaki]

I agree. DAO is still my favorite, but it never took me 50 hours to complete. 30 something, at the most. DA2 took me around 20, I think. Without the DLC.

 

Yeah BW games tend to hover around the 20 - 30 mark for me. Only times I get over that are when I spend time wandering around aimlessly or leaving the game running while I google that damn tower of haori puzzle yet again.

 

 

To be fair, it did for me the first time I played, because I didn't know where everything was yet. 

 

Ah so half that time was spent wandering about aimlessly? that's always fun.
 

[TheRealJayDee]

Others have already proven that the quote doesn't exist, or was taken out of context. I don't even know why this thread is still open honestly. 

 

 

Starting at about 10:27. You're welcome. 

[Rawgrim]

It's pretty much the same for me, hell even ME1 could be beaten in 15-18 hours pretty easily. Less if you jump through the dialogues quickly. I'm actually curious what the speed run statistics will be for DA:I. I've seen 0:35 minutes for Origins.

 

The 35 minute one involves a glitch, though.

 

Still, a Speedrun isn't anything to go by at all. When you skip conversations all the time, you basically skip the story. It is like reading a two page summary of LOTR and then claiming the book can be read in 3 minutes.

[ryno113]

I did pretty much every thing except collectibles I'm about halfway through all the shards/Astrariums etc. And my playtime clocks about 71 hours on normal.

 

That includes all the war table operations I could finish. I've always considered companion missions to be main quests that sort of stuff and since you can't skip all the side stuff because of power requirements I'd say the bare minimum is about 25-30 hours if you include companion missions.

 

There isn't 150-200 hours worth of content here though like was mentioned in the previews unless you replay. If I really want to do everything outside of finish the game on nightmare it would take about 80-90 hours ish. I reckon.

 

Origins took about 30 hours, DA2 took about 20 maybe a bit more.

[Rawgrim]

The main story + the side quests seems to be on par with DA:O, give or take. Not counting the fetch or grind quests though.

[TheRealJayDee]

As for my opinion on the topic: if I learned anything due to my experiences with DA2 and ME3 it was not to listen to pre-release PR talk. Before those games I kind of did believe in things devs said, but afterwards I was told that I'd been a fool for ever doing so. Because apparently marketing is somehow supposed to exaggerate or plain lie, and everything said about a game before release is marketing. Lesson learned.

 

So since I knew there was no way I'd purchase DA:I anytime near release (and because I simply didn't care all that much) I just skipped everything except the main trailers. Seemed like the healthy thing to do to me, and while I'm glad so many of you are enjoying the game I have no trouble at all with waiting until after the release of the last DLC before getting it myself.

 

 

 

Edit: And to me it doesn't really matter how long a game is, unless it isn't drastically short or artificially stretched out. I play in my own time, and as long as the game provides reasonably entertaining content for it's duration I'm good. DA:I sounds like a game in which I have a lot choice about how much time I want to invest, and that's a good thing as far as I'm concerned.

[blahblah]

I never believe the length of the game in the pre release talk to begin with. I always have a rule which is at mimumum 1/2 the length of what is claimed.

[Father_Jerusalem]

Hi everyone. Let's try to keep it civil in here.

 

If you actually care about civility, then this entire topic should be deleted. All it is is another "BIOWAREZ LIED TO US OMGZ THEY SUCK!" thread. There is utterly nothing productive about these things.

[Nathair Nimheil]

Starting at about 10:27. You're welcome. 

As I expected, he sorta, kinda said something more or less similar to but not actually what was "quoted" in the HE'S A BIG LIAR! vitriol posts.

Strawman, overreaction, RAGE! SSDD.

[KaiserShep]

When did this vicious, adversarial view of the people who develop the games we love become "cool"? Lately way too many gamers seem to just constantly seethe with nearly incoherent rage, eagerly inventing targets and manufacturing reasons to explode at them, smacktalking butterflies that happen to drift past the basement window...Over 100 posts into this thread and I still haven't seen the actual quote from Mike Laidlaw asserting 50 hours, but the rage infected monkeys are in full poo-flinging frenzy about it anyway. Is RAGE the new fun or something?

It makes them strong. Gives them focus.

[TheRealJayDee]

There is kind of a fast way through it. If all you wanna do is just story, story, story, and you wanna just kind of optimize for that... I don't know, 50?

 

Yes, that's not exactly what was said here in the thread, but it does insinuate there's 50 hours of playtime if you just focus on the main story and that that's the fast way through the game. He obviously wasn't giving the impression he was quite sure, and he did say it was hard to put an actual number out, but it doesn't seem like he or anyone disagreed when the "50 hour main story" news were published based on that interview.

 

So I wouldn't say he's a big mean old liar based on it, but the Biowarians simply need to be careful about stuff like this. I don't care in this case anyways, but I did care about ME3, and even if I qualify some of the things we had there as "no purposeful deception, but simply misleading statements that got misinterpreted" they were still annoying and should be easily avoidable.

 

And that's the last I'll be saying on this here. I have no emotional investment or else in this, and I don't want to dwell on the past.

 

Everyone enjoy DA:I to the best of your platform's abilitites! 

[connors3605]

Iam sitting around 85 hrs. I am just finishing up emerald graves area and have done all side miisions in each area so far and ive killed 5 dragons so far

[Sternesy]

It baffles me how some people finished it in such a short time. I did the bare minimum side quests to get influence and it took me 45 hours. That includes the time taken to do all the companion quests. 50 hours seems pretty accurate to me.

[AlanC9]

I suppose the only way we'll ever figure out what's going on would be for someone who finishes in 50 hours and someone who finishes in 25 hours to both do gameplay videos. Anyone want to be a contestant? The test would best work with new content, but I suppose a DLC would work. Unless the different play times reflect interacting with stuff that won't be in a DLC, but that would be interesting data too.

For my own part, my playtimes generally come in at the low end of Bio's predicted ranges.

[Sardoni]

114 hours nearly 100% completion on my first play-through.  All shards looted, all 10 dragons, missing a few bottles, missing one song, and missing 7-ish mosaic tiles.

[samuelkaine]

What example? It's obvious, a short good story is nowhere as good as a long good story.

 

What would you say if your favourite movie would be 20 minutes instead of 90-120?

The latest Godzilla is an excellent, atmospheric 25 minute monster movie wrapped in 2 1/2 hours of sub-Pearl Harbour nonsense. I would far, far rather have watched the edit.

 

This is the PC Gamer article. It's not a quote by Laidlaw, it's an attribution by a journo who may or may not have understood, but couldn't find a direct quote.

http://www.pcgamer.c...arc-at-e3-2014/

[inquartata02]

The conversations are a bit cutscene'ish, so maybe the problem is there. Some bad scripting or whatever. The Dorian convo was more or less a cutscene too, now that I think of it.

 

Have you tried waiting? I mean, don't hit skip, just... wait. I had the glitch with Cassandra, and waiting a couple minutes (or more; I didn't time it, I just read stuff as I waited) cleared it up, at least for that convo. The whole staring awkwardly is just weird.

 

 I had the same problem with Dorian earlier, but I didn't know to try to long wait, and the skip worked and never hit a forever-stare wall, so I don't know if the same thing will work with his cutscene-ish dialogue.

[Vroom Vroom]

 

(Do not mistake me, I love DA:I. But I wanted to address this.)

 

Bioware was right about the game being huge, and that doing everything could take a very long. But Mike Laidlaw was completely full of it when he said the game would take 50 hours if we ignored every sidequest. Remember this?

http://www.pcgamer.c...arc-at-e3-2014/

 

I know most of us thought he was exaggerating. But this isn't exaggerating. Exaggerating would be if he inflated the real truth by about 10-15 hours. But he's off by at least 30 hours. That's just flat out misinformation, to put it kindly.

 

I appreciate the great game that Mike and his team brought us. But come on now. 

 

Well, we also have to consider cut content. I remember a video (I think it was at gamescom 2014) where the Red Templars were assaulting both an Inquisition Keep and Crestwood, you had to choose which one to save and if you didn't save Crestwood it was gone forever and Varric was super sad. I never saw that in Inquisition and I did nearly everything I saw, therefore it was likely cut from the game at some point in 2014. If that is the case, then who knows what else was cut before release? 

What I am trying to say is that Mr. Laidlaw could have been spot on, but it changed because the game changed over time and therefore he did not lie.