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#1
Menaan

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Seriously, what is this.  I am about to take advantage of the 24 hour return period on Inquisitions because this thing is so bad.  Why would such a crucial part of this series be done so badly?  The thing that made Dragon Age: Origins -> Awakening -> Dragon Age 2 so great is the feeling of my choices having lasting impacts on the world.  Yet this extremely important feature of the game series, you can't bother to have a working save game import we have to go through and remember and manually select every single important choice we've ever made in the series.

And then to further it, some of the choices aren't even possible and it is infuriating.  I've already found 2 important choices that can't be completed.  My warden was in a romance and a lover of Alistair, yet I convinced Alistair to have the ritual with Morrigan so that neither died.  However if I try to say both Alistair and the Warden is alive it won't let me.  Also, if I try to put that the Warden was a lover with Alistair, and Alistair had a baby with Morrigan (as per the ritual) it won't let me do that either.  What is this stupidity?

 

These are both highly important lasting choices.  One being whether this baby is around or not, and the other being whether the warden and Alistair lived or not.  This is infuriating.

 

If this is the quality I can expect for the newest of Dragon Age games I am seriously questioning my purchase.

 

EDIT... and to make it even worse, after going through all the trouble to add all my choices to this tapestry, then exporting to DAI... starting a new game in Inquisition just sits there trying to import for like 30 seconds and then says No Custom World State Found.  .... Horrible *sigh*



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Kantr

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You need to lock down each choice. So lock Warden is Alive, then lock Ali did the DR and that you had a romance. 

 

Save game import would not give you any choices at all and would be horribly bugged.



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Menaan

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You need to lock down each choice. So lock Warden is Alive, then lock Ali did the DR and that you had a romance. 

 

Save game import would not give you any choices at all and would be horribly bugged.

 

I don't want choices here, I've already made my choices, I want them imported and effecting the world as they should.  And horribly bugged?  They managed to do it in Dragon Age 2 and I didn't encounter any bugs there.

 

Also the choices were locked down.  I eventually got them to work but had to do it in without choosing and locking in that alistair was alive and stayed with the wardens.  That choice showed as what was set though after setting everything else, I just can't go in and "Approve" it.  If I chose that regardless of the other locked choices it wanted to say that the warden had died killing the arch demon.



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Well you lock it down so it doesnt change the choice you made



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While it is certainly possible that you may have not encountered any bugs in the import to DA2, that was not common. It was much more common for several bugs to plague the imports including the Warden loosing their romance, Nathaniel dying in transition, and the City/Keep choice in Awakening not having one of the possible variants recognized. Further there were only 20 or so plot points from the entirety of DAO which were transferred. The Keep allows them to recapture the plot points that were shed and fix the errors in the transition (some of which players may have been completely unaware of during DA2).

 

Now regarding importing, you should use this guide to help if you are having any trouble.
http://forum.bioware...to-inquisition/



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Seriously, what is this.  I am about to take advantage of the 24 hour return period on Inquisitions because this thing is so bad.  Why would such a crucial part of this series be done so badly?  The thing that made Dragon Age: Origins -> Awakening -> Dragon Age 2 so great is the feeling of my choices having lasting impacts on the world.  Yet this extremely important feature of the game series, you can't bother to have a working save game import we have to go through and remember and manually select every single important choice we've ever made in the series.

And then to further it, some of the choices aren't even possible and it is infuriating.  I've already found 2 important choices that can't be completed.  My warden was in a romance and a lover of Alistair, yet I convinced Alistair to have the ritual with Morrigan so that neither died.  However if I try to say both Alistair and the Warden is alive it won't let me.  Also, if I try to put that the Warden was a lover with Alistair, and Alistair had a baby with Morrigan (as per the ritual) it won't let me do that either.  What is this stupidity?

 

These are both highly important lasting choices.  One being whether this baby is around or not, and the other being whether the warden and Alistair lived or not.  This is infuriating.

 

If this is the quality I can expect for the newest of Dragon Age games I am seriously questioning my purchase.

 

EDIT... and to make it even worse, after going through all the trouble to add all my choices to this tapestry, then exporting to DAI... starting a new game in Inquisition just sits there trying to import for like 30 seconds and then says No Custom World State Found.  .... Horrible *sigh*

 

1) The Keep is still in beta, so there are bound to be issues with it.

 

2) I've seen other people complaining about this issue too.  I did a world-state where my f!Surana romanced Alistair, made him king, had him do the DR, but didn't stay with him because he wasn't hardened.  There are ways to get around these issues.  Just try selecting that Morrigan did the DR with Alistair first, lock it in, then select that your Warden romanced Alistair, made him king, and stayed as his lover.  I've had issues too, but it's pretty easy to get around them if you switch up the order in which you select them.

 

3) There are known issues with save game imports and many people have encountered them.  For example: if you didn't bring Nathaniel with you to fight the Mother in Awakening, there was a serious chance that DA2 wouldn't register him as being alive and the Act III quest where you have to save him won't trigger.  There's also similar things where if you import an Awakening save, some romances won't carry over because DA2 reads approval flags or something like that since Awakening didn't have romances.  I haven't encountered any of those issues, but that doesn't mean they don't exist.

 

4) I've had that issue with world-state imports too.  You have to get out of DA:I, import your world-state, and go back into DA:I.  It doesn't seem to work while DA:I is running.  Simple fix.

 

Honestly, despite not having any issues with save game imports, I prefer the Keep.  It really helps if you're carrying a world-state across console generations or you're switching from consoles to PC, PC to consoles, or going from one console to another.  BW's sticking with the Keep, so just grin and bear it.

 

This gif sums it up perfectly:

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rprm1987

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Just calm down. All your problems can be easily fixed if you follow the posts above.



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Having to put your decisions into the keep isn't that big of a deal and I personally had fun with it. It actually brought me back into the Dragon Age universe is a way that simply importing a save couldn't. Then, as has been said, there were things imported incorrectly in both Dragon Age 2 and Mass Effect 2. The Keep will help eliminate that.

 

As for your technical problems, you MUST select that Morrigan had the Old God Baby with Alistair FIRST. Locking actually doesn't have anything to do with this, though it may help with other issues. This is due to the autosolver running after every decision so the only way to have both Warden's survive is for Morrigan to have the Old God Baby. If you set that first, you should have no problem setting up the other choices.

 

Many people have had trouble importing their worldstates. This is a problem, but they are aware of it.



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I bought DA I but i cant play it. Why? Coz i cant set my story line from original game. Similar problem. I want to go with:

 

- warden is allive

- morgana and alistar had baby

- alistar kill the dragon

- alistar is alive

- alistar is king

 

This app want kill me or Alistar all the time. Can someone tell me step by step how to set this right? Is it possible? 

 

BTW sry for my bad english.



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BronzTrooper

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I bought DA I but i cant play it. Why? Coz i cant set my story line from original game. Similar problem. I want to go with:

 

- warden is allive

- morgana and alistar had baby

- alistar kill the dragon

- alistar is alive

- alistar is king

 

This app want kill me or Alistar all the time. Can someone tell me step by step how to set this right? Is it possible? 

 

BTW sry for my bad english.

 

It's impossible in-game for Alistair to kill archy if he did the DR with Morrigan.  The Warden will always take the final blow if the DR has been preformed.

 

That's probably what's screwing up your world-state options.  You can't have the DR be preformed and have Alistair kill archy.  Closest you can get is letting him get the last hit on archy in the actual in-game fight.  Otherwise, either the Warden or Alistair commits suicide by archdemon.



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I just had to change one thing. In battle of Denerim i switch from Alistar kill the dragon to warden kill dragon. Thank you m8 i did not remember that thing. Even when Alistar and Morgana did this ritual warden still made a final blow. I waste about 3h :/ Thank you very much. Now all pieces of puzzles fit perfect.


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