Who else is hoping we stay as the Inquisitor?
#126
Posté 06 décembre 2014 - 06:13
A lot of people got really upset because Shepard's not going to be the protagonist in the next Mass Effect game, and I guarantee if the Inquisitors story is dragged out another game or two it will happen again
#127
Posté 06 décembre 2014 - 06:20
#128
Posté 06 décembre 2014 - 06:20
The Inquisitor has too much power. I'd prefer to play the underdog.
#129
Posté 06 décembre 2014 - 06:22
Before the game came out, I thought I would definitely be opposed to continuing with a protagonist, but now I've played it, I definitely would not mind what could essentially be Inquisition 2.
Although, I'd definitely want Varric replaced with a new character.
- rda aime ceci
#130
Posté 06 décembre 2014 - 07:40
The Inquisitor has too much power. I'd prefer to play the underdog.
I agree. I can only take only so much miracles one PC can continue to survive through. The Inquisitor is too powerful and I would like to experience different kind of stories.
- Voragoras aime ceci
#131
Posté 06 décembre 2014 - 07:41
I agree. I can only take only so much miracles one PC can continue to survive through. The Inquisitor is too powerful and I would like to experience different kind of stories.
I'm on this boat, too. I look foward to seeing what else the Inquisitor might accomplish in DLC, but another full game's worth of this stuff would be too much.
#132
Posté 06 décembre 2014 - 07:57
So long as I get some extras and some closure with my Quizzys I wouldn't mind new origins and perspectives in DA4, like a tevinter noble for exemple. The only problem I really have with a new PC each time is needing some contrived excuse for why the others aren't helping or whatever, and/or shirking their duties.
One of my main Wardens has like 5 important titles, but she's going around who knows where searching for stuff
#133
Posté 06 décembre 2014 - 08:02
I agree. I can only take only so much miracles one PC can continue to survive through. The Inquisitor is too powerful and I would like to experience different kind of stories.
One extraordinary person doing extraordinary things is more believable than everybody and their mother being extraordinary (multiple PC's, plus 3 entire supporting casts).
- Doominike, Barathos et Niemaina aiment ceci
#134
Posté 06 décembre 2014 - 09:27
Maybe they'll make an appearance in the next game with our romance at his/her side. That would be awesome.
#135
Posté 06 décembre 2014 - 10:05
Actually that would most likely suck because they'd **** up something
#136
Posté 06 décembre 2014 - 10:09
One extraordinary person doing extraordinary things is more believable than everybody and their mother being extraordinary (multiple PC's, plus 3 entire supporting casts).
Agreed.
I actually really loved the ME series BECAUSE you get to follow the same cast, the same people, carry on the same relationships (both romantic and not) throughout the entire game. It builds attachment and you really feel part of the world. Starting fresh every time gets a little annoying because every time you have to go through the "This is the fade! Wow this is freaky!" "What's a darkspawn?! OH THAT'S A DARKSPAWN!" and "Who's the Hero of Feralden / Champion of Kirkwall / Inquisitor".
If people are worried about the inquisitor being too powerful, there are ways to fix that. Really, really quickly.
- jellobell, zeypher, Cespar et 2 autres aiment ceci
#137
Posté 06 décembre 2014 - 10:13
Like what ? Leaving their super high rank title to search for something and mysteriously disappear ?
#138
Posté 06 décembre 2014 - 10:17
Like what ? Leaving their super high rank title to search for something and mysteriously disappear ?
And that's the concern of what I have if they don't make a continuation. They've done this in other games and the hero "mysteriously deals with a danger that's not really known. The end."
They could do a political intrigue where somebody supplants you and you're thrown out of power via other methods. This gives an opportunity to bring some cast in and some not.
#139
Posté 06 décembre 2014 - 10:22
But if some new uber threat attacks the Inquisition, what will the explanation for them not getting immediately killed by the essentially godlike Inquisitor ? It'd be like if Corypheus attacked Denerim with a Queen/King/Chancellor/Alienage Bann warden-commander there, he'd have died right then
#140
Posté 06 décembre 2014 - 10:26
I'd prefer to play as the Inquisitor in the follow up (DLC/expansion, preferably) to the stinger, tbh. Though, I'm just really attached to my Lavellan and
#141
Posté 06 décembre 2014 - 10:31
But if some new uber threat attacks the Inquisition, what will the explanation for them not getting immediately killed by the essentially godlike Inquisitor ? It'd be like if Corypheus attacked Denerim with a Queen/King/Chancellor/Alienage Bann warden-commander there, he'd have died right then
Actually, if he hit Denerim first and not Haven then he would've knocked out the entire army that might've been stationed there. Not to mention sowing chaos everywhere because the King/Queen are dead.
And just because a character killed a main character / is level 25 doesn't mean they're "all that". Cassandra herself has killed a dragon before the Inquisition, so why isn't she kicking Corypheus in the face? Because she had a lot of help along the way, same as the Inquisitor. The Inquisitor just has the privilege of being a little bit more diplomatic and the consequence of him being in the right place at the right time.
#142
Posté 06 décembre 2014 - 10:45
One extraordinary person doing extraordinary things is more believable than everybody and their mother being extraordinary (multiple PC's, plus 3 entire supporting casts).
I disagree. The world is full of extraordinary people.
Besides, we're talking about 31 companions, 4 protagonists counting Awakening and MotA. Granted, I'm not sure what the total population of Thedas is, but that's still a rather insignificant portion of the population.
- flabbadence aime ceci
#143
Posté 06 décembre 2014 - 11:24
Actually, if he hit Denerim first and not Haven then he would've knocked out the entire army that might've been stationed there. Not to mention sowing chaos everywhere because the King/Queen are dead.
And just because a character killed a main character / is level 25 doesn't mean they're "all that". Cassandra herself has killed a dragon before the Inquisition, so why isn't she kicking Corypheus in the face? Because she had a lot of help along the way, same as the Inquisitor. The Inquisitor just has the privilege of being a little bit more diplomatic and the consequence of him being in the right place at the right time.
The PCs are all "all that", the archdemons are what Corypheus himself worshipped as deities and the Warden defeated one in battle. You can use support from the armies and ballistae but you don't have too, I just attacked it upfront with my party (who all got downed) and I won so in my version of Thedas I consider that's what happened, the warden-commander fought the archdemon effectively one-on-one and she won. And she also provoked Flemeth into a fight and she won that too, basically the same way. Hawke fought Corypheus before and she beat him, if he attacked her again he'd likely lose again. Left out Varric dialogue from DA2 refers to Hawke as being "without peer, a god among mortal men" and I'd argue that Hawke is actually the weakest of the 3 PCs.
So I find it totally reasonable to think that if Corypheus attacked Denerim he and his dragon would have died. Besides how is it so hard to imagine, the Quizzy kills the dragon and defeats Corypheus at the end, why couldn't the Warden ?
#144
Posté 06 décembre 2014 - 11:30
I've always really loved the protagonist and companions in Dragon Age. If we didn't have a new one each game I'd never know the joy that is a sarcastic Female Hawke. Or the Wicked Grace scene in Inquisition. Would it have been great to play as the Warden again, or Hawke as the PC in this game? Yeah, but I was ok with a new PC each game. The stories felt, for me, resolved enough for a new cast of characters.
I know I am more than likely in the minority here. But for the first time in this series, I hope we continue on with the Inquisitor and however many of his/her companions that choose to stick around. With the things that have been set in motion I feel like the Inquisitor needs to see it through.
If we are going to have an all new PC and companions in the next game then I hope we get extensive DLC for Inquisition. I'm not ready to move on yet.
- jellobell aime ceci
#145
Posté 06 décembre 2014 - 11:34
The PCs are all "all that", the archdemons are what Corypheus himself worshipped as deities and the Warden defeated one in battle. You can use support from the armies and ballistae but you don't have too, I just attacked it upfront with my party (who all got downed) and I won so in my version of Thedas I consider that's what happened, the warden-commander fought the archdemon effectively one-on-one and she won. And she also provoked Flemeth into a fight and she won that too, basically the same way. Hawke fought Corypheus before and she beat him, if he attacked her again he'd likely lose again. Left out Varric dialogue from DA2 refers to Hawke as being "without peer, a god among mortal men" and I'd argue that Hawke is actually the weakest of the 3 PCs.
So I find it totally reasonable to think that if Corypheus attacked Denerim he and his dragon would have died. Besides how is it so hard to imagine, the Quizzy kills the dragon and defeats Corypheus at the end, why couldn't the Warden ?
I think you misintrepreted what I said.
If he attacked Denerim first and not Haven, there would be a completely different outcome.
1) He would've picked a location for the rift to open, the inquis would've come along and ruined it blowing up the entire area and leaving a nice crater. Demons pouring out would consume a lot of the population fairly quickly. The armies would also be in for a heap of trouble.
2) The Warden could, not saying that, but in-lore he had several armies backing him up. In-game that's not really represented...
#146
Posté 06 décembre 2014 - 11:45
The armies were for dealing with the darkspawn while you dealt with the Archdemon technically, you *can* ask for their aid in defeating it and use ballistae but you don't *have* to so it's perfectly possible that the AD was defeated by just you and a few followers. Historically there's another AD who was defeated in single combat by a warden so it's not that far fetched that our PC warden could do it too.
Considering he went for the divine as his sacrifice at Haven, if he had picked Denerim instead, wouldn't he have picked the royalty as the sacrifice ? And speaking of that, is there a reason he specifically picked Haven ? Might have been to attack the andrastian faith I guess but he coulda done that after becoming a god
#147
Posté 06 décembre 2014 - 11:59
I'm all for a new (hopefully Tevinter) protagonist. Like most, I expect we'll get enough story-based DLC to successfully conclude our Quizzy's tale. I'm guessing Tevinter/Seheron for DA4, so the Inquisition's probably not a huge presence, but I'll be surprised (and disappointed) if we don't at least run into their agents/soldiers.
#148
Posté 06 décembre 2014 - 11:59
The armies were for dealing with the darkspawn while you dealt with the Archdemon technically, you *can* ask for their aid in defeating it and use ballistae but you don't *have* to so it's perfectly possible that the AD was defeated by just you and a few followers. Historically there's another AD who was defeated in single combat by a warden so it's not that far fetched that our PC warden could do it too.
Considering he went for the divine as his sacrifice at Haven, if he had picked Denerim instead, wouldn't he have picked the royalty as the sacrifice ? And speaking of that, is there a reason he specifically picked Haven ? Might have been to attack the andrastian faith I guess but he coulda done that after becoming a god
He's a narcissist and he hates the Chantry. The Conclave is the biggest gathering of important religious figures, including one of the most beloved Not-Popes in history, so it sends a bigger message of "if the Maker didn't save his most faithful, what hope have you?", in the same kind of NERR NERR *blows raspberry* as Kai Leng's child taunt after Thessia in ME3.
#149
Posté 07 décembre 2014 - 12:00
I'm torn between preferring to play as an underdog with his ragtag group of companions and feeling like carrying on the inquisitor and his companions would allow for Mass Effect levels of attatchment and character development. I don't really enjoy being thrust into a position of huge power. Maybe the inquisition can just be totally decimated at the start of DA4 by the new villain ala the Normandy being blown up at the start of ME2? That would be grand.
Tbh, inquisition would go from an 8.5 to a 6 for me if the Inquisitor wasn't the protagonist of the next game. It feels good as the start of a series of games. As a singular adventure? Not so much. There just isn't enough time to truly bond with or get to know the companions and it'd feel strange following through on that post credits cliffhanger with a different character.
- jellobell et Niemaina aiment ceci
#150
Posté 07 décembre 2014 - 12:05
He's a narcissist and he hates the Chantry. The Conclave is the biggest gathering of important religious figures, including one of the most beloved Not-Popes in history, so it sends a bigger message of "if the Maker didn't save his most faithful, what hope have you?", in the same kind of NERR NERR *blows raspberry* as Kai Leng's child taunt after Thessia in ME3.
Ya but wouldn't it have been a better message if he had become a god beforehand and then attacked the chantry gathering so that all the grand clerics could see masses of faithful get killed and the maker not doing crap to help them ? It'd have been despair galore and stuff. As opposed to just blowing them all up in one go and staying secret to everyone. That woulda been my plan if I had that goal.





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