My inquisitor was shocked and hurt. She felt betrayed. but she also admired what the man had become. She remembered those chats she had with him as he carved wooden horses in Skyhold.
She choose to get him released into her custody. And then she gave him that second chance. The team would not have been the same without him.
Yup, i'm even romancing her rn and she says nothing about religion at all. Idk where ppl get it from.
There will always be exaggerations when hating a character, smh @ bsn and everyone else who does that.
Same I romanced her with a human though so I wasn't sure if she said anything to an elf.
*huggles her Bull close* ;-;
Same I romanced her with a human though so I wasn't sure if she said anything to an elf.
*huggles her Bull close* ;-;
He's my Bull, you have to share! *tug*
D:
But...but..
A wild dorian? SHOO. *takes Bull and flees*
Also playing my archer and I keep saying eat it after using leaping shot. I blame Sera's influence.
I accidentally sent forces to free him and it was a bloodbath. Oops
lol yeah I read that option and I can't see that ending well
I'd like to know how a statement like 'how can others defend him' is not about what others are saying about him?
@BAC PARTY, if you have him engaged in servitude he continues 'living the lie' most people won't know he's Thom Rainier, hence I'd argue a measure of protection for the inquisition's reputation.
Yeah I strongly considered that option. And its not of the table, but that seemed a tad too cold for me. It makes a lot of sense and I may end up doing it, but if Blackwall is going to hate me for it do I really want him fighting with me. My inquisitor is more tactful he rawly goes all iron fist unless he has too. I should decide soon. I think I'm almost done. I've just got to finish Emprise De Lion (half way done), Hissing Waste/Sands and the Main story stuff.
The thing is he announces to Val Royeaux that he's not Blackwall. And you also get a WT mission called the consequences of "Blackwall's" lie. Clearly, people are aware that you had a fake warden in your service.
So that non-punishment seems the most ridiculous of all of the other non-punishments.
darn.
@BAC: With regards to the bandits and the note, it does make it clear that at least one of the bandits was one of Rainier's men if you put the pieces together (whether the rest of them were also were, I'm not entirely sure - have to reread the note because it's been a while...ah yes, someone reposted part of it, and it definitely looks like more than one of the bandits were his former men). Now if you bother to listen to what is said during the encounter while he's trying to talk to the bandit:
- Bandit: You're dead, bastard! Dead!
- Blackwall: I wasn't here to fight! Stop and think!
Whatever Blackwall was there for, it didn't look like he set out to use those fishermen to help defend himself. The bandits were clearly already robbing people (based on the note), and I suppose that that village may have been next on their banditry hit list. Blackwall may have wanted to intercede to stop his former soldier(s) peacefully and to keep the bandits from attacking the villagers. But bandits being bandits - and with what I assume would be deep bitterness of the part of the ex-soldier(s) - I don't think things were going to work out that way.
Even if Blackwall had hypothetically had some sort of selfish motivations there (and I don't believe that that's the case based on all the dialogue during the initial encounter), those people did need to be taught to defend themselves. And the next time it happens (if it happens), they'll actually be able to do that. I rather doubt that this particular group of bandits is the only group of bandits in Thedas.
maybe your right. idk. I may do a replay just for this scene.
To be perfectly honest, I thought Blackwall was really boring and underwhelming as a character. In fact, I kept forgetting he was a character. He was such a great tank I think I filed him in my mind as an actual walking black wall I brought around everywhere to absorb damage. So when he was revealed to be a fake, my character was shocked and horrified, but I just thought, "That's why there were so many holes in your stories about what you were doing during the 5th Blight, why you didn't know where your fellow Wardens were, and why you weren't affected by Corypheus' false Calling!"
My Lavellan strongly believed that people can change for the better if they really want it, and saw that he had done his part acting the hero he wanted to be, so she rescued him and brought him back under her service. Never brought him along in the party after that though, come to think of it. >_>
I didn't think he was boring, but he wasn't the most interesting companion. He was more middle of the road out of my party. This was actually one of the better parties for a dragon age game imo. For once a game where I didn't hate any of my companions. Unlike Dragon Age 2, where I disliked half my party. Dragon Age 2 I loved Bethany, Aveline, Varric and Isabella and strongly disliked the rest of my party. Merrill was dangerously clueless she's gonna get herself killed or posed by a demon or worse. Than you had Anders and his craziness. He came very close to an arrow in the face on multiple occasions. Fenris I just didn't care for. Never used him and had to fight him at the end. Suffice to say this made my party very unbalanced most of the time because I would use Aveline and up to 2 sometimes 3 rogues.
But I digress...... Back to Blackwall! He was good as a tank, but I always preferred Cassandra in my party she was more interesting as a character to me and I gave her better armor. And when stuff got hard I just go Knight Enchanter Vivienne and tank. So as far as warriors go Cassandra would be my go too, but lately I've been enjoying Iron Bull. I brought Blackwall along for Adamant and any time I was hunting down Memory of the Grey Warden items.
As the game progressed. Blackwall got kind of dull he didn't have the personality some of the other companions had. Heck even Solas showed more at times. But to me his most compelling aspect was being a Grey Warden, and just everything that entailed. But over the lat 5+ hours of gamely Blackwall kind of sunk near the bottom of favorite companions. Even Sera and Cole surpassed him. Sera who I use to find annoying is actual a worthwhile character. And ever since I made Cole more human I've started to like him. I use to dislike Cole he was this weird ghost dude, who I never brought along because my inquisitor is a duel wielding assassin too.
For the most part I think Bioware did a great job with all the companions. I'll have to make a decision with Blackwall but him not being an actual Grey Warden hurts his value a little bit. I'll probably just flip a coin to decide what I want to do with him.
D:
But...but..
A wild dorian? SHOO. *takes Bull and flees*
Also playing my archer and I keep saying eat it after using leaping shot. I blame Sera's influence.
...Fine. *snuggles with Dorian*
I've started yelling "take that!" And i never yell in battle!
No, it seems like Solas and Cullen generally get a pass. Though at least in the case of Cullen, there isn't much to meaningfully object to.
I did see this though: http://thepunchlinei...solas-they-said
...Fine. *snuggles with Dorian*
I've started yelling "take that!" And i never yell in battle!
XD yeah is there a youtube of all the combat cries yet? I wanna hear em.
lmfao maybe not here on the BSN, but I assure you, I have seen "Cullen is a monstrous rapist abuser" on tumblr many times.
What? Cullen is the one guy who seems as if he's the least likely to offend anyone.
lmfao maybe not here on the BSN, but I assure you, I have seen "Cullen is a monstrous rapist abuser" on tumblr many times. Solas seems to get the biggest pass which is hilarious because he has so much problematic stuff in his romance. Shrug.
Wait that wasn't about his DAO and DA2 self? That was about him in Inquisition?
lmfao maybe not here on the BSN, but I assure you, I have seen "Cullen is a monstrous rapist abuser" on tumblr many times. Solas seems to get the biggest pass which is hilarious because he has so much problematic stuff in his romance. Shrug.
Oh boy. I haven't seen much post-Inquisition Cullen critical stuff myself, but that might be due to mostly sticking to BSN, as you imply. I agree with you about Solas. I like the character well enough (though not as a romance) but have tended to keep my more critical thoughts of him to myself. They're very present though.
What? Cullen is the one guy who seems as if he's the least likely to offend anyone.
My husband calls him "oatmeal," and ever since he did, that's my name for him too. Still like him though, as basic as he is.
Oh no it was about DA:O/2 but carried over cuz you know, once a rapist always a rapist etc.
Ah, I see...but...he didn't do anything like that...ever???? Then again, after the whole Blackwall experience, I guess I shouldn't be surprised by this.
My husband calls him "oatmeal," and ever since he did, that's my name for him too. Still like him though, as basic as he is.
LOL! I think Cullen is a decent guy with some depth, but yeah, I can see why your hubby says that.
Yeah, my husband isn't as familiar with Cullen's character evolution as I am. That, and he's a bigger b!tch than me. *tsks*
Anyway,Cullen does have more depth than he's given credit for, but I am not sure that Inquisition conveys that very well. It is helpful to have played the previous games in order to fully appreciate his development, imo. As presented in Inquisition alone, I find him a little underwhelming. Again, just my opinion.
Wait, Cullen is a rapist now? I swear to God, people in this fandom love throwing the r-word around far too much.
And yeah it's hilarious to me how Solas is basically exempt from criticism despite arguably doing far worse stuff than any of the other companions (I like him, but jeez).
Wait, Cullen is a rapist now? I swear to God, people in this fandom love throwing the r-word around far too much.
And yeah it's hilarious to me how Solas is basically exempt from criticism despite arguably doing far worse stuff than any of the other companions (I like him, but jeez).
Yeah, same - I like Solas and find him an interesting character, but not only did he lie - or at least made sure to omit certain truths (about the focus in particular) for most of the game - he gave the focus to Corypheus. I don't blame him for doing something out of desperation, but seriously, there was a whole heck of a lot of collateral damage as a direct result of what he did. Even so, Solas is one of my mainstays, and I still like him despite the later revelations about his role in events (which certainly seemed to be the result of some sort of miscalculation on his part/misjudgment of Corypheus).
Someone in tumblr's "dragon age confessions" said that Cullen is a "generic blonde pretty boy" and that they're judging anyone who romances him, does that count? Not sure if they were serious or trolling though.
I've seen Solas referred to as a 'racist grandpa', not here though.
racist in terms how he addresses dwarves and qunari and the grandpa bit is from where he says stuff and youre not given recourse to address it or refute it, you're expected and just nod as he says stuff like this to your quizzy.
I think it might have been said tongue in cheek though.
and lets face it Cullen totally has the face of a serial jaywalker. That and his ruffled coat looks criminally warm and cosy.
I've seen the racist grandpa comment too, and while I totally get why the comment exists and even agree to an extent, I've avoided adopting that label for him. It tends to get used as a way of pointing out the hypocrisy of liking Solas while not liking Sera (her racism) or Blackwall (his age and dishonesty) The tendency in fandoms to create "opposing" character factions is something I find ridiculous, tbh. Not saying you're doing that- you're not, of course- just noting it as something I've noted that I bet y'all have too.
But! Since this is a Blackwall topic, and he is apparently EBILLLL to the core, I wanted to share a preview of patch 3's Blackwall redesign:
Nothing can express how awesome that is.
Nothing.
Krampus Blackwall is totally a thing!
B-but wait! He should be standing atop of a pile of dead puppies whilst gazing at someone rapaciously!
(That is amazing, Doll. I'm cackling so hard I gave myself a coughing fit.)
B-but wait! He should be standing atop of a pile of dead puppies whilst gazing at someone rapaciously!
(That is amazing, Doll. I'm cackling so hard I gave myself a coughing fit.)
Hehe, thank you! My terrible image editing shenanigans are a way of relieving stress. Alternative Muahaha Blackwall here:
Oh no it was about DA:O/2 but carried over cuz you know, once a rapist always a rapist etc.
lol
Honestly he did strike me as a bit creepy in DAO tho. Just saying 
Also I have to agree with the racist grandpa remark. I like Solas but by god I wanted to give him the stink eye at times.
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