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Has Rogue claimed title of heaviest auto hitter? #HEAVY HITTERS


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Julius Caesar

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See, in DA2 Warrior was the top dog for auto attack damage I believe (I've actually forgotten the damage that could be done with bow, but I'm still thinking warrior 2h took the title of heaviest hitter, mind the pun) and it was amazing at skill damage, however the rogue (obviously with it's modifier and stats in favour of crit damage) had taken title for hardest hitter with talents.

 

I've also heard about the KE being overpowered, has the mage joined the party now and if not who takes the crown, rogue or warrior?

 

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I think KE is great only for solo play... It's not the most damaging class, but rather a good DPS class with high survivability.


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kE doesn't do the most damage, it just makes you almost unbeatable if you play it right. Rogues are definitely the highest dps when it comes to auto attacks and Archers can do serious single shot damage.


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I just finished a playthrough with a dual wield tempest rogue and I have to say that the damage it can dish out is impressive to say the least. Flask of lightning is haste for you and you can shatter things on your own with flask of frost.(towards the end of the game i was getting about 7-k crits with shatters and 10k deathblows on bosses) dont even get me started on thousand cuts. I hear assasins can crit with mark of death for ridiculous amounts.

So bottom line dual wield rogue seems like the best dps class at the moment, although i still haven't tried rift mage yet.


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On nightmare dual wield rogues can't survive



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brazen_nl

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On nightmare dual wield rogues can't survive

 

You mean you can't survive?


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On nightmare dual wield rogues can't survive

 

Raven (DWR) plays on nightmare:

 

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BTW she is the little sister of Anders, tried to make her the youngest i could, I had no trouble by using the stupid DA2 skill tree, while it is still broken at least is not as ridicoulus as it used to be


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On nightmare dual wield rogues can't survive

It's more about people who can't survive nightmare. Any class can do nightmare well.


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Inferno KE gets 7-8k Fire Mines with up to 18k Crits on it late game. I use KE only for the passives and spirit blade and my KE's do not even use spirit blade because they are busy with Immolate, Fire Mine, Energy Barrage and Winters Grasp. I think Inferno KE is the damage king for an AI controlled character and can only beaten by an good skilled player controlled rogue. Two AI controlled Inferno KE will destroy almost any nightmare group in 10 seconds or less at Lvl15-17+. My KE build use 20 skillpoints and every skillpoint after this 20 core skills is only icing on the cake.

 

I play only on Nightmare, so Dragon-Rage Reaver is not an option. But I think the Reaver will be damage king on lower difficulty. Give him "Heal on Kill" mastery crafts and he should get his HP back up. Thats not tested but I think it will work.


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Given that Flask of Fire is currently bugged. Any rogue playing as a Tempest who spams Flask of Fire and then lets loose with a rank 3 Thousand Cuts can solo dragons in about a minute.

 

Here's a video of it: 



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Julius Caesar

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Yeah knowledge on the game has obviously increased for all of us since my last post.

I thank all of you for your replies

I initially did have a 2h build that I will still do, but I feel I enjoy the rogue play more - so I will do that and then get back onto my reaver.

They say the assassin can do more single target damage than the tempest, is it true? 

How does the artificer compare to the other 2 ?

otherwise thankyou, all



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They say the assassin can do more single target damage than the tempest, is it true? 

 

 

Yes and no. With focus? No. Tempest' focus ability is broken. Without focus? Mark of death is the heaviest damage ability in the game. The damage you, and your whole team, do in 8 seconds will be dealt after the 8 seconds. Coupled with the fact assassination is built on burst: 25k+ damage is not unusual there. 
Tempest do, however, have a more versatile play style and got an intense survivability/control. 
 
How does the artificer compare to the other 2 ?

 

As DW? I am unsure. Not many have tried, but I have yet to hear good about it. Probably the worst specialization for DW. Though I am not quite giving up on that one yet!

 

As Archer? Above Tempest, just under Assassin. A constant stream of 7k-12k crits isn't anything to sneeze over! It doesn't change the playstyle, so that could be seen as boring to some. It also requires some knowledge of the game, and crafting. 



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knight enchanter is the most defensive of the mages.



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KE deals some heavy damage when specced properly. Blade allows for very low cooldowns (maybe not as good as an artificier in a high crit party, but you're only constrained by mana anyway) plus KE has one of the best damage/mana abilities. 1000% damage for 20 mana while also making you invulnerable? Yes please. WB on necro deals 2000% + 600% explosion but it's a DoT and costs 65 mana, so Fade Cloak is still more efficient. Rift might have a higher damage potential because of unlimited mana, but I'm not sure. Melee chars also lose out on some dps due to the need to reposition so it's another consideration.

 

KE damage potential is probably not as good as rogue specs but it still can mow down pretty much everything very fast while being in zero danger.

 

In terms of auto attack, 2h reaver has the highest auto with proper gear, but it does not matter much since most OP builds can spam some abilities 24/7. In terms of best sustained damage it's artificier most likely (but it's a very late bloomer, so I have to say KE for the most part of the game).



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Not sure but it feels like Sera does well over half the party's damage. Ok I have given here first priority as far as weapons are concerned, but it only makes sense. Still who has the best weapon is going to have a head start as far as auto attcke is concerned. Escept dagger rogues who can't be automated.

 

I am currently playing a champion, so non stater there, and try to build characters to theme.



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See, in DA2 Warrior was the top dog for auto attack damage I believe (I've actually forgotten the damage that could be done with bow, but I'm still thinking warrior 2h took the title of heaviest hitter, mind the pun) and it was amazing at skill damage, however the rogue (obviously with it's modifier and stats in favour of crit damage) had taken title for hardest hitter with talents.

 

I've also heard about the KE being overpowered, has the mage joined the party now and if not who takes the crown, rogue or warrior?

 

Pce.

KE is overpowered because it converts 30% of the damage it does into a barrier. That starts to matter a whole let less when you have T3 gear and warriors are basically only taking 1 damage though. KE's are not damage machines though, they do pretty shitty damage. If you want DPS mage you go necro you can produce well over 1000% weapon damage a second with them and most of it AOE.



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I think I've finally found the answer after a while. The title still goes to the warrior, with the reaver specialisation. 

We are talking thousands of damage here, as opposed to 100's from the mage and the rogue, but again I haven't looked into the rogue and mage too much I've simply been working on my warrior since I made the post. 

 

Again it seems this time round the other 2 classes don't even come close in terms of auto damage, however with skill damage no class comes as close to doing as much damage as the rogue. 

So there ya have it. 

 

p.s. haven't checked the KE actually, so don't quote me on that. ;)