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[Treacherous J Slither]

What.

The.

****?!

 

Apparently you can train for a year and somehow become immune to mind control and demonic possession. Why isn't this training being given to every mage and every Templar? Cassandra told me this and it blew my mind. It makes no sense whatsoever for the Chantry to not give this training to the needed parties. It doesn't matter how difficult it is. If someone doesn't make it then so be it but for them to not even try? Come on man. That's just absolutely ridiculous.

 

How do you guys feel about it? Am I making a big deal out of nothing or what?

Modifié par JSlither, 27 novembre 2014 - 10:23 .

[wcholcombe]

You fast and meditate for a year. There is something else to it as well that is revealed later.

[Treacherous J Slither]

You fast and meditate for a year. There is something else to it as well that is revealed later.

 

Which is? Spoil it for me please. I don't mind. 

 

It better make sense too...

[WhatGoesHere]

i think the conversation happens after finishing 'Promise of Destruction'

Spoiler

seekers are made tranquil and then they are 'cured' by being touched by a spirit. during the quest you also discover that corypheus cast aside the seekers because he can't control them like he can the templars. this is probably why

[Treacherous J Slither]

i think the conversation happens after finishing 'Promise of Destruction'

Spoiler

seekers are made tranquil and then they are 'cured' by being touched by a spirit. during the quest you also discover that corypheus cast aside the seekers because he can't control them like he can the templars. this is probably why

 

How can you tranquil a mundane?

 

Wait, so they don't dream anymore? Where do the "gifts" come from then? Whatever they are.

 

What are they?

[WhatGoesHere]

How can you tranquil a mundane?

 

Wait, so they don't dream anymore? Where do the "gifts" come from then? Whatever they are.

 

What are they?

ok so...luckily i had a save right before this conversation~

 

Spoiler

cassandra explains to the inquisitor what the rite of tranquility is, and then goes on to explain that it is used as a punishment against the mages. she tells the inquisitor about how the discovery that the rite of tranquility (see: pharamond) could be reversed is what started the mage rebellion in conjunction with what happened at kirkwall.

 

she reveals that it turns out her order has always known how to reverse the rite of tranquility. it's used on new seekers during their period of meditation, and afterwards a spirit of faith touches them, reversing the process and giving them their abilities. this is not revealed to the rank and file seekers themselves. to her it was just a period of meditation, and she had no clue about the whole tranquility thing. she knows all of this now because, when you finish her personal plot quest (promise of destruction), she gets the book thingy that's passed on from one lord seeker to the next

 

so basically the seekers undergo the rite of tranquility and have it reversed. afterwards they can't be controlled by the red lyrium anymore (i guess) and they get their special powers

[themageguy]

I wish my Inquisitor could be a Seeker instead of a templar.

The abilities would've come in handy against not only demons, but mages and Templars.

sigh.

[Treacherous J Slither]

ok so...luckily i had a save right before this conversation~

 

Spoiler

cassandra explains to the inquisitor what the rite of tranquility is, and then goes on to explain that it is used as a punishment against the mages. she tells the inquisitor about how the discovery that the rite of tranquility (see: pharamond) could be reversed is what started the mage rebellion in conjunction with what happened at kirkwall.

 

she reveals that it turns out her order has always known how to reverse the rite of tranquility. it's used on new seekers during their period of meditation, and afterwards a spirit of faith touches them, reversing the process and giving them their abilities. this is not revealed to the rank and file seekers themselves. to her it was just a period of meditation, and she had no clue about the whole tranquility thing. she knows all of this now because, when you finish her personal plot quest (promise of destruction), she gets the book thingy that's passed on from one lord seeker to the next

 

so basically the seekers undergo the rite of tranquility and have it reversed. afterwards they can't be controlled by the red lyrium anymore (i guess) and they get their special powers

 

Thanks man.

 

I doubt that it has to be a spirit of faith specifically. Any strong enough spirit should be able to pull it off. Wow man. The Chantry is so full of ****. They have the cure to the threat of demonic possession in their hands and still see fit to oppress mages. smh

[Kevs]

Thanks man.

 

I doubt that it has to be a spirit of faith specifically. Any strong enough spirit should be able to pull it off. Wow man. The Chantry is so full of ****. They have the cure to the threat of demonic possession in their hands and still see fit to oppress mages. smh

You're right, it doesn't have to be a spirit of Faith. Remember how in DA2, Anders/Justice temporarily restored Karl's mind? In that case, Justice was just in close proximity of Karl, plus he's a spirit of Justice and not Faith.

 

The Seekers (or rather the Lord Seekers), however have always known about the Rite of Tranquility and how to reverse it. I just have to point out that the Lord Seekers kept it a secret, even from other Seekers and from the Chantry.

 

See http://dragonage.wik...ersing_the_Ritefor a quick background on how reversing Tranquility works. It should be noted that mages don't get their magic back even if Tranquility was reversed.

[Sifr]

I think the reason it is a Spirit of Faith is because of that meditation and year they spend contemplating their religious beliefs, which makes it easier for the Spirit of Faith to be summoned across the Veil to "cure" them once the Rite is performed on them. Sure it might be harder to summon them, but it's probably considered more acceptable than any other form of Spirit (or Demon) that could be used in it's place.

 

As for how it's possible to make a non-mage Tranquil, all mortals (save for Dwarves apparently) are still connected to the Fade, since otherwise, they'd not be able to venture there within their dreams.