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#51
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http://www.eurogamer...sition-face-off

 

"The PC version offers presets ranging from low all the way up to ultra, with the console versions seemingly falling somewhere between medium and high."

 

"By ticking this up to ultra (on PC), however, we noted a dramatic increase in depth of field resolution used during cut-scenes. While the game uses bokeh depth of field on consoles, the lower resolution of the effect results in noticeable pixelation artifacts around edges, leaving scenes looking a bit rough. The ultra setting on PC eliminates these anomalies altogether and produces a much more pleasing effect."

 

"Shadow quality isn't bad on console but it's clear that on the PC, you can enjoy much cleaner shadows that extend further into the environment."

 

"Unfortunately, the higher resolution on PS4 comes with a catch in the form of noticeable performance dips during strenuous sequences. During a normal run of play, the game does a good job of maintaining the target frame-rate but frame-rate faltered sometimes during battle sequences and sometimes even traversal across the landscape. "

 

Also none of the videos you linked are 60 FPS.

 

​Try this one (you need to be using chrome to see 60 FPS).

 

 

Sorry we are going to have to choose to agree to disagree. I've seen that video. I ready every critic review on metacritic and watched just about every video. When I see the Xbox360/ps3 versus PC/xbox one/ PS4 comparison, if I had a last gen system I would have no choice but to upgrade. The pop ins are a last generation of consoles for me would make the game unplayable. Popins and draw distance are what matter most for me and the are virtually the same on PS4/Xbox 1 and PC. In the eurogamer video, unlike the last gen current gen comparison videos, nothing jumps out at me like..OMG those graphics are so much better. The draw distance and pops are basically the same. Maybe if I take a still of the surface of a rock or a still of a picture of their face..the differences are more apparent but who plays like that? The eurogamer article doesn't say anything negative, it just says the word 'sometimes' and talks about shadows which most people will barely tell the difference when they are actually playing. If this was Skyrim or the Witcher 2, I'd totally be with you as those games it was shockingly different between low to ultra settings and with the last gen console. This game, unless its 4K on Ultra...it isn't worth the cost. If you already have a PC capable of playing on high or ultra. then yea, stick to the PC and use a controller. If you don't, then I'd go with the PS4 version without spending a thousand or two to get a game with marginal differences. So yea, we will just have to chose to disagree. With his 660, I would say go with the PS4.



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I was told by two PC players they couldn't rebind controls. I'm glad that isn't the case after all, but it does not compensate for the boatloads of other PC issues - so paramount that BioWare devs created a PC Community Issues thread as a PR move to set minds at ease.

As for Cyberpunk 2077, that game has long been confirmed for PS4.

 

You're right. They said PC is their lead platform though:

 

"“I can tell you we are and we were focusing on powerful gaming rigs. We’re going to do something amazing, so we need extra processors. - So its confirmed that the leading platform of the next-generation Cyberpunk 2077 is the PC which is great to hear. "

 

 



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Sorry we are going to have to choose to agree to disagree. I've seen that video. I ready every critic review on metacritic and watched just about every video. When I see the Xbox360/ps3 versus PC/xbox one/ PS4 comparison, if I had a last gen system I would have no choice but to upgrade. The pop ins are a last generation of consoles for me would make the game unplayable. Popins and draw distance are what matter most for me and the are virtually the same on PS4/Xbox 1 and PC. In the eurogamer video, unlike the last gen current gen comparison videos, nothing jumps out at me like..OMG those graphics are so much better. The draw distance and pops are basically the same. Maybe if I take a still of the surface of a rock or a still of a picture of their face..the differences are more apparent but who plays like that? The eurogamer article doesn't say anything negative, it just says the word 'sometimes' and talks about shadows which most people will barely tell the difference when they are actually playing. If this was Skyrim or the Witcher 2, I'd totally be with you as those games it was shockingly different between low to ultra settings and with the last gen console. This game, unless its 4K on Ultra...it isn't worth the cost. If you already have a PC capable of playing on high or ultra. then yea, stick to the PC and use a controller. If you don't, then I'd go with the PS4 version without spending a thousand or two to get a game with marginal differences. So yea, we will just have to chose to disagree. With his 660, I would say go with the PS4.

 

It's funny you mention pop-in, because one of the main differences is the foliage pop-in, which is horrendous on consoles, grass just materializes a few away from the character. That doesn't happen on PC.

 

Awesome move, trying to insinuate you need a "couple of thousand" in order ot beat the PS4.  So ridiculous. A $500 PC matches the PS4 or actually outperforms it by a little bit (a 750 ti), a $600 beats it, and an $800 completely outclasses it.

 

The 660, isn't a mid range card anymore, but it will beat the PS4:

 

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That's a GTX 660 running the latest COD game at 1600p or TWICE the resolution of the PS4. At an average 46 FPS. It's ALSO running the game at a higher graphics settings than a PS4. 

 

I'm done with this thread. The OP should have enough info to make up his mind, and the console fanboyism in here is just out of control.



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Well you can buy the PS 4 version but when the mods do eventually show up which is always on the PC version, you are going to have to buy the PC version all over again.

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There were several people, including you, who don't even own the PC version of the game, calling the PC version more buggy. When that's not borne out by actual articles online and benchmarks. The only reason you are saying that is to promote your platform of choice, because youa re fanboy.

As I pointed out to the OP: My suggestion is the PC because his PC hardware is better than his PS4. If it wasn't I'd happily suggest the PS4 version. My suggestion is based on objective facts. Your suggestion is based on your fanboyism.

OK.. flameboy. I'm guessing you're 12 years old, so you don't have any sort of job where you are "tinkering" with tech, unless you're talking about your parent's DVD player.


Nope, basing my point on the gazillions of angry threads about PC. I didn't say he was guaranteed to have problems, just that the chances were higher for THIS GAME AT THE MOMENT. I have nothing against PC, I use it from time to time for PC exclusive games. Find one thing I said that was fanboyism; I don't give a rat's ass if Sony sales more than MS or PC, as long as they keep putting out good games.

Just so you know, I'm 35, a dad, and I don't fix my mom's DVD player, I buy her a new one. I work in telecom and networking; so when a stupid Sonicwall made me rage all day, I don't want to touch a pc or laptop with a ten foot pole. Plus my SO wouldn't approve of a PC in our family rooms.

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#XboxOne900pmasterrace or gtfo :D

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The issues on the PC aren't about bugs or performance so much as they are about the lacking mouse and keyboard controls and the obviously dumbed down and consolized 10 foot UI.

 

The inventory screen for example is a list of like 5 items before you have to start scrolling. You kind of need that sort of clunky interface when you're playing with a gamepad from a TV 10 feet away from you, but on a high resolution monitor 3 feet away it's a complete and utter failure of UI design.

 

In Diablo 3 on Pc I can go through an inventory 3 times as large as DA:I's and in 10 seconds I know what gear I'm keeping and what I'm selling. That process takes me closer to 10 minutes on PC with a gamepad or on the consoles.

 

These are the issues PC gamers are upset about. Things that won't be affecting the OP, since he can use a gamepad on PC too and suffer through the consolized UI, just like every other console gamer out there playing this game.



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Nope, basing my point on the gazillions of angry threads about PC. I didn't say he was guaranteed to have problems, just that the chances were higher for THIS GAME AT THE MOMENT. I have nothing against PC, I use it from time to time for PC exclusive games. Find one thing I said that was fanboyism; I don't give a rat's ass if Sony sales more than MS or PC, as long as they keep putting out good games.

Just so you know, I'm 35, a dad, and I don't fix my mom's DVD player, I buy her a new one. I work in telecom and networking; so when a stupid Sonicwall made me rage all day, I don't want to touch a pc or laptop with a ten foot pole. Plus my SO wouldn't approve of a PC in our family rooms.

 

I wonder if people who work at Bestbuy don't want to watch Tv because all they do is sell 'em. Do mechanics hate getting in a car? Programmers must also hate PC gaming.. Oh no, wait, I'm a programmer, and PC gaming >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> console gaming any day of the week ;)



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I was told by two PC players they couldn't rebind controls. I'm glad that isn't the case after all, but it does not compensate for the boatloads of other PC issues - so paramount that BioWare devs created a PC Community Issues thread as a PR move to set minds at ease.

As for Cyberpunk 2077, that game has long been confirmed for PS4.

 

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I wonder if people who work at Bestbuy don't want to watch Tv because all they do is sell 'em. Do mechanics hate getting in a car? Programmers must also hate PC gaming.. Oh no, wait, I'm a programmer, and PC gaming >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> console gaming any day of the week ;)

 

Plummers hate the smell of **** though :D



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Plummers hate the smell of **** though :D

 

Yeah but I'm pretty sure they still smile when take one ;)


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That's the point! I don't care! You just made ten posts about how PC is superior in graphics than PS4. I'm not arguing with that! I'm talking gaming experience; in 35 hours I had to save, exit to main menu and load last save twice; and there is no patch yet. (PS games usually get somewhere from 5-10 in the first year, so I'm not worried).

And after over a decade of bringing work home, you get to a point where enough is enough. You have to choose between quality time with your family, or spending nights up on your own time for a customer whi won't say TY. Those moments with my son won't come back, but I'll always have work waiting for me.

My PC is for games like Divinity, and my bench tests. So yeah, I have a love-hate relationship with it. It's a HL Proliant 8gb server; bought a run of the mill 2gb video card with hdmi output so I could plug it on my projector. Didn't really care for the gaming capacity, I basically run VMs, ftp server, IP PBXs andd the likes.

That, and sports games. EA/2K has let PC gamers out to dry, and only Sony has a good baseball sim.

Why am I sharing all this??
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I'm done with this thread. The OP should have enough info to make up his mind, and the console fanboyism in here is just out of control.

Continued immaturity at its best. Sorry, I dont have any popin issues.



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Actually there are already mods for the PC version.

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You're right. They said PC is their lead platform though:

 

"“I can tell you we are and we were focusing on powerful gaming rigs. We’re going to do something amazing, so we need extra processors. - So its confirmed that the leading platform of the next-generation Cyberpunk 2077 is the PC which is great to hear. "

 

I never said it wasn't on PC. 

 

It's on all three platforms.  :rolleyes:

 

Discussion = over. :)



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Plummers hate the smell of **** though :D


I'm a software developer myself and I don't hate my PC at all in fact I can switch on the fly from work mode to entertainment mode :D
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People get hostile real quick round here. *leaves*

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please avoid flaming and hostility guys.

 

the topic has been very helpful for me now and i appreciate everyone's opinion and the info they give.

 

no one needs to agree with everyone else, doesn't mean we need to turn it hostile.

 

thanks again, even though i haven't made up my mind yet.



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please avoid flaming and hostility guys.

the topic has been very helpful for me now and i appreciate everyone's opinion and the info they give.

no one needs to agree with everyone else, doesn't mean we need to turn it hostile.

thanks again, even though i haven't made up my mind yet.


Well the thread must have attracted some trolls. Or dumb teenagers. Both?

I still stand by the ps4 recommendation. Just read the feedback section to get an idea.

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please avoid flaming and hostility guys.

the topic has been very helpful for me now and i appreciate everyone's opinion and the info they give.

no one needs to agree with everyone else, doesn't mean we need to turn it hostile.

thanks again, even though i haven't made up my mind yet.

Well a stability and graphic patch will come out soon looking at past PC games.

http://www.youthheal...tion-update.htm

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Yea I'm DEFINATELY not rushing buying it, I think I'll wait for the patch and see how it does.

It's not as bad as unity so I assume the patch is not that much rushed.

I'm still playing unity and warlords of draenor anyway :D