I have to ask. Aside from the writers and Gaider and such. What stops my Inquisitor from booting Cullen to the curb? Not like my Advisers can overrule me can they?
With that kind of reasoning, you could question everything in the game. He is in charge of the troop training along with Cassandra from the start of the Inquisition, and all other advisers and soldiers seem to think he is doing fine so?
With that kind of reasoning, you could question everything in the game. He is in charge of the troop training along with Cassandra from the start of the Inquisition, and all other advisers and soldiers seem to think he is doing fine so?
That doesn't answer my Question. The Inquisitor calls the shots correct? So what stopping them from changing their staff?
That doesn't answer my Question. The Inquisitor calls the shots correct? So what stopping them from changing their staff?
Same reason you can't join Corypheus: because it'd break the game and create too many divergence points.
That doesn't answer my Question. The Inquisitor calls the shots correct? So what stopping them from changing their staff?
You don't call all the shots.
I know Bioware is obsessed with catering to the player's ego and power fantasy but despite that, you have to take into account your troops morale and performance. If your troops are doing great in their duties and have confidence in the person commanding them, changing your commander might not be advisable or even possible while you are trying to save the world.
I have to ask. Aside from the writers and Gaider and such. What stops my Inquisitor from booting Cullen to the curb? Not like my Advisers can overrule me can they?
It would take a good deal of effort to find someone else who has been as high-up in a relatively large army as Cullen has and who's between jobs the way Cullen was. And then there's the troop morale stuff that's already been mentioned. And for that matter my understanding is that until you get to Skyhold, Cullen's membership in the Inquisition is Leiliana and Cassandra's decision, not yours.
And while this gets into the writing and mechanics stuff you didn't want to get into, the scripting to fire him would be extra effort to write, and would very possibly require a new character to be written since the only other obvious candidate I can think of among the characters in previous games (Ser Cauthrien) is not only at least as easy to find issues with but also very possibly dead. And then there's writing all the new dialogue that would require.
I still believe Cassandra would've made a much better choice as an advisor than Cullen will ever be. She is in a higher position than him and was the hand of the 2 divines. A seeker so she'd have nearly the same POV as templars
Additionally, since they're going by the "practical" pov for his advice then I'd say she's as practical and to the point as Cullen
I didn't like how his "accomplishment" in Kirkwall was just a footnote. It's pretty clear they added him as fan service. Which is fine, although I think most would've preferred him as a companion.
With that kind of reasoning, you could question everything in the game. He is in charge of the troop training along with Cassandra from the start of the Inquisition, and all other advisers and soldiers seem to think he is doing fine so?
This. His people love him. On more than one occasion, an enemy will tell you "someone's trained them well" regarding your soldiers. Whether you like him as an advisor or not, he's doing a good job there, at least. Dumping him would be counter-productive.
Also, someone has to be there just to look pretty. (Thanks, Varric 
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I have to ask. Aside from the writers and Gaider and such. What stops my Inquisitor from booting Cullen to the curb? Not like my Advisers can overrule me can they?
Cassandra picked them. Those 4 are essentially the core of the Inquisition. They are the ones who gave IQ any power. It would be extraneous and illogical for the game to give you the option to kick out your advisors and pick someone else. It's the same reason why Cass is a companion who can't leave no matter how low her approval goes.
I still believe Cassandra would've made a much better choice as an advisor than Cullen will ever be. She is in a higher position than him and was the hand of the 2 divines. A seeker so she'd have nearly the same POV as templars
There's no doubt Cass can give great advice. But it is not in her character or interests to take on a role that would make her stationary at the Inquisition. They did not make Cullen the military advisor solely for the sake of representing "practicality", but because he was a notable military figure who proved himself when it counted (stabilizing Kirkwall) and naturally would have special interest in resolving the Templar/mage conflict.
Bleh, its all so very annoying. I would at least have hope that Hawke would but heads with him. In my game anyway. The man took your sister! Have some self-respect!
Bleh, its all so very annoying. I would at least have hope that Hawke would but heads with him. In my game anyway. The man took your sister! Have some self-respect!
Don't delude yourself man, at that point, she wanted dat Circle life 
j/k
Cullen does a good job training the soldiers and they respond well to him. The rantings and ravings of a fan are not a good reason to create such a divergent point
All I know is, I hope his story ends with Inquisition. After three games I say he has overstayed his welcome
All I know is, I hope his story ends with Inquisition. After three games I say he has overstayed his welcome
I mean, he might make cameos, but unless the next PC starts as a low-ranking Inquisition member he's unlikely to be as major a character as he was in 2 or Inquisition. Or at least I hope so, since he really does seem like he's had a good run as a character and he has a job that seems to be good for him.
I mean, he might make cameos, but unless the next PC starts as a low-ranking Inquisition member he's unlikely to be as major a character as he was in 2 or Inquisition. Or at least I hope so, since he really does seem like he's had a good run as a character and he has a job that seems to be good for him.
The only capacity I want Cullen to be in DA4 if any is a decaying Lyrium addict in a alleyway.
The only capacity I want Cullen to be in DA4 if any is a decaying Lyrium addict in a alleyway.
I mean, decaying lyrium addict is a thing he could wind up being, but if you don't intervene I think he probably kicks the habit. And even if he does fall off the wagon hard enough to leave a crater I'm sure someone will make sure he never falls that far.
Josephine is an ink quill, Leliana is a surgical tool, Cullen is a bo staff.
All of them have their respective uses.
I mean, decaying lyrium addict is a thing he could wind up being, but if you don't intervene I think he probably kicks the habit. And even if he does fall off the wagon hard enough to leave a crater I'm sure someone will make sure he never falls that far.
Unless I stop that someone.... 
For observation sake Killdren88, I think you may have an obsession with hating a FICTIONAL character.
But back on topic. I have no problem if he has a cameo, minor, major or doesn't show up at all. He has already been in three games and his story arc looks to be finished. All I know is its out of our hands.
For observation sake Killdren88, I think you may have an obsession with hating a FICTIONAL character.
But back on topic. I have no problem if he has a cameo, minor, major or doesn't show up at all. He has already been in three games and his story arc looks to be finished. All I know is its out of our hands.
Obsession? Oh no, hating Cullen doesn't dominate my thoughts whenever I have Dragon Age on the Brain. Simply threads that pertain to Cullen that criticize him or threads which discuss characters we dislike. As a result I don't have to go to the Fan thread to know I have no friends there.
The man took your sister! Have some self-respect!
Bethany easily takes a liking to the Circle life, and it's fair to argue that living in the Circle is a kinder fate than being chained to the taint.
I'd say one can have 'self-respect' while accepting the fact that Cullen just happened to be doing his job. You can hate Templars all you want, I dislike the Order myself, but I think most people can agree that Cullen is a guy who always worked earnestly towards the well-being of society. That is why he devoted himself to the Chantry and the Order in the first place, and why he retired from it after they lost sight of themselves, and joined the Inquisition.
Trailing back to the original topic- that's all that is important in regards to having him as an advisor. He ain't there to please you with his personality or his lustrous past, but to serve a greater good.
Ah, I see. It just came off as such.
Trust me if you want obsessive hate towards a fictional character Try ME3 when it came out with the Catalyst.
Bethany easily takes a liking to the Circle life, and it's fair to argue that living in the Circle is a kinder fate than being chained to the taint.
I'd say one can have 'self-respect' while accepting the fact that Cullen just happened to be doing his job. You can hate Templars all you want, I dislike the Order myself, but I think most people can agree that Cullen is a guy who always worked earnestly towards the well-being of society. That is why he devoted himself to the Chantry and the Order in the first place, and why he retired from it after they lost sight of themselves, and joined the Inquisition.
It still doesn't change the fact after that he acts like you old buddy. And there isn't even an option to tell him off over it.
It still doesn't change the fact after that he acts like you old buddy. And there isn't even an option to tell him off over it.
A templar, the second-in-command of the Order no less, isn't going to apologize for doing his job. As for your second comment, that's a complaint against the game/dialogue design.
Unless I stop that someone....
You honestly think you'll be given that option?
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