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Genuinely not liking Cullen as an adviser


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#326
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That sort of thinking is what makes an Inquisitor unpopular and nothing more than a child throwing a hissy fit.

Eee what not at all it doesn't make him in any way unpopular lol like saying that firing leliana would make whole world hate inquisitor what is ridiculous inquisitor could even accuse any adviser of treason even if not true and then execute them for that and people still would take inquisitor word over any of them and still been seen as hero and herald of andraste.



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I would think people would be a bit more accommodating to the only person on Thedas that can save their sorry arses.

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Eee what not at all it doesn't make him in any way unpopular lol like saying that firing leliana would make whole world hate inquisitor what is ridiculous inquisitor could even accuse any adviser of treason even if not true and then execute them for that and people still would take inquisitor word over any of them and still been seen as hero and herald of andraste.

 

Does the Inquisitor have any proof to accuse their advisors of treason?

 

"Because I said so" isn't really a compelling argument.



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Does the Inquisitor have any proof to accuse their advisors of treason?

 

"Because I said so" isn't really a compelling argument.

Who would question that in first place lol you can free blackwall from jail and no one ask questions despite guy was criminal.Your word against advisor and good luck if you think advisor would have edge here.  



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Eee what not at all it doesn't make him in any way unpopular lol like saying that firing leliana would make whole world hate inquisitor what is ridiculous inquisitor could even accuse any adviser of treason even if not true and then execute them for that and people still would take inquisitor word over any of them and still been seen as hero and herald of andraste.

 

So basically you think the Inquisitor should be exactly like how the Envy demon would have acted as Inquisitor.... that's fantastic plan...



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So basically you think the Inquisitor should be exactly like how the Envy demon would have acted as Inquisitor.... that's fantastic plan...

What is hilarious because envy demons if inquisitor dies succeeded but no envy demon started from what i recall burn heretics philosophy and it worked what im talking about is removing adviser one way or another.



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Who would question that in first place lol you can free blackwall from jail and no one ask questions despite guy was criminal.Your word against advisor and good luck if you think advisor would have edge here.  

 

You're leading people, not herding sheep.



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What is hilarious because envy demons if inquisitor dies succeeded but no envy demon started from what i recall burn heretics philosophy and it worked what im talking about is removing adviser one way or another.

 

What you're talking about is doing whatever you want and expecting people to follow your every command, no questions asked, just because you're the Inquisitor.



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You're leading people, not herding sheep.

Well very little difference. :P

 

As solas says my little minions :devil:

 

 

What you're talking about is doing whatever you want and expecting people to follow your every command, no questions asked, just because you're the Inquisitor.

Pretty much hell it is even in case in our times after all disobedience is not welcome in military.But as i said start burn people on the streets is one thing frame one of members of your organisation is another.



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What is hilarious because envy demons if inquisitor dies succeeded but no envy demon started from what i recall burn heretics philosophy and it worked what im talking about is removing adviser one way or another.

 

Actually when the Envy Demon is in your head one of the things it shows you is accusing people falsely of treason just because you don't like them or they disagree with you... which is exactly what you suggested doing.



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Arent the bodies of inquisition soldiers, men and women who pledged themselves to your cause? Who says that they would object to having their bodies continue to serve?

 

The problem here is that those soldiers never had the chance to consent. What if they were opposed to being raised as undead?



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The problem here is that those soldiers never had the chance to consent. What if they were opposed to being raised as undead?

At least they aren't now.



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Actually when the Envy Demon is in your head one of the things it shows you is accusing people falsely of treason just because you don't like them or they disagree with you... which is exactly what you suggested doing.

You asked that inquisitor should have act exactly like envy demon what isn't true falsely accusing people of treason isn't limited only to demons envy demon wanted did far more than that.Pretty much disagreement between leader and and subordinate is very serious matter and in fact not once it finished badly for one of them as for reason i accused him because i don't like him well it can be dangerous as well if it is on both sides if not petty thing to do but well as well a lot of things that human do.



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Don't engage him. I used to wonder if he was a troll or just insane, and it was about the time he compared himself to Hitler that I realized he's both.



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Don't engage him. I used to wonder if he was a troll or just insane, and it was about the time he compared himself to Hitler that I realized he's both.

:lol:

Oh boy you are hilarious boy as you try make up things i didn't say to make look bad just because you dislike me and try convince yourself that you are right and im just insane.In fact i never compared myself to Hitler if something i was compared by others but keep trying.



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:lol:

Oh boy you are hilarious boy as you try make up things i didn't say to make look bad just because you dislike me and try convince yourself that you are right and im just insane.In fact i never compared myself to Hitler if something i was compared by others but keep trying.

Details. But anyway you didn't do much to refute the comparison.



#342
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Details. But anyway you didn't do much to refute the comparison.

Very important details and why should i as reason why they started compare me to hitler was my solution on mage problem that people saw as just vile and smiliar to what hitler did.



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Very important details and why should i as reason why they started compare me to hitler was my solution on mage problem that people saw as just vile and smiliar to what hitler did.

 

Was your solution to the mage problem "kill them all?" o.O



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Was your solution to the mage problem "kill them all?" o.O

Pretty much save for few mages under strict supervision to prepare joining but well better don't start mage-templar discussion because it will go far from point of this thread.



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You can't kill the people who gave you ldeadership without consequences. They can kick you out of that position without breaking a sweat.

 

Cullen has his soldiers, Leliana her spies and Josephine her diplomatic talent. These three could ruin your reputation in a heartbeat. Especially Leliana and Josephine.

You'd be cramped back into your damp little cellar in chains, and dragged about the countryside only to close rifts.

 

What you're doing now, is joffreying around.



#346
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You can't kill the people who put you in a leadership position without consequences. They can easily kick you out of that position just as easily.

 

Cullen has his soldiers, Leliana her spies and Josephine her diplomatic talent. These three could ruin your reputation in a heartbeat. Especially Leliana and Josephine.

You'd be cramped back into your damp little cellar in chains, and dragged about the countryside only to close rifts.

 

What you're doing now, is joffreying around.

:lol:

 

Oh but i can their a mistake was to give me leadership and no they can't because in first place im leader of inquisition and now people see me as their leader that advisors allowed that is another matter and they formed inquisition but inquisition became power under inquisitor control and because of him.

 

Cullen don't have his soldiers , leliana don't have her spies and josephine don't have her diplomats those are members of the inquisition and inquisitor is leader of the inquisition as i have said cullen only is responsible for inquisition forces so no cullen can't start war with somone because he wants to he will only carry orders if inquisitor will start with someone.Pretty much chain of command with inquisitor on top of that



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Actually, I think a lot of the first Templars that joined the inquisition were under Cullen in Kirkwall. They followed him when he joined the inquisition.

 



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Actually, I think a lot of the first Templars that joined the inquisition were under Cullen in Kirkwall. They followed him when he joined the inquisition.

 

When inquisition started inquisition had only very few people and was formed by said people but as i said people started to join under inquisitor command and because whole herald of andraste thing in fact before inquisitor took leader role even as figurehead (until skyhold) inquisition wasn't even officially started.So pretty much inquisition raised to power under herald of andraste (inquisitor) as leader.



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:lol:

 

Oh but i can their a mistake was to give me leadership and no they can't because in first place im leader of inquisition and now people see me as their leader that advisors allowed that is another matter and they formed inquisition but inquisition became power under inquisitor control and because of him.

 

Cullen don't have his soldiers , leliana don't have her spies and josephine don't have her diplomats those are members of the inquisition and inquisitor is leader of the inquisition as i have said cullen only is responsible for inquisition forces so no cullen can't start war with somone because he wants to he will only carry orders if inquisitor will start with someone.Pretty much chain of command with inquisitor on top of that

 

I feel like you have a fundamental misunderstanding of how leadership works and what actually builds fellowship and makes people want to follow someone.


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#350
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When inquisition started inquisition had only very few people and was formed by said people but as i said people started to join under inquisitor command and because whole herald of andraste thing in fact before inquisitor took leader role even as figurehead (until skyhold) inquisition wasn't even officially started.So pretty much inquisition raised to power under herald of andraste (inquisitor) as leader.

 

Actually, it was officially started way before Skyhold. Remember Haven and marking all those places in the Hinterlands with "under the protection of the Inquisition"? There was a small army and diplomats and a spy network way before Skyhold. People were in the Inquisition before the Herald was even a thing. Remember the part about the Divine gathering people together for it in Haven and sending Cass to find Hawke. The Inquisition was a thing before we showed up.