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[Esteed789]

That mission was clearly important to my bard. And the bard is really important to the Inquisition. The fact that both Lels and Josie would go out of their way to help her...and Cullen would go "No. This is ridiculous." I don't understand. He would rather pick up herbs than help the bard? I can't see his logic there (and to be honest, this was the war table mission that prompted me to create this thread.)

 

Like, is he against bards? Does he not like music? He hangs out at the tavern at times. Does the bard not talk to him, or is she afraid of him? Why won't he want to help her? As mentioned, he has so many resources but he thinks the bard's fights are not important. It honestly bothers me.

 

He thinks Maryden's mission is unimportant because it is.  She's asking her powerful boss to lay the smackdown on some girl that pulled her hair once in school.  It's petty schoolyard bullshit, should never have even made it onto the war table to begin with, and treating it as anything other than a ridiculous waste of resources is ridiculous at best.

 

You pointed out that Leli wants to go out of her way to help.  Her "help" is cutting out the poor girl's tongue over a schoolyard disagreement.  If that doesn't read as cartoonishly psychotic to you, well...

[AtreiyaN7]

I agree with Esteed - the whole situation was ridiculous. That being said, if I actually wanted a reward, I would have sent Jojo in - I'm certainly not about to send Leliana in to cut out someone's tongue over some elementary school incident a bazillion years ago.

 

I like you, Maryden, you're a great bard and all...but I don't think that what you want is all that important! As for you, Cullen, you're right, you're 100% right about just how silly the whole situation is, and I support you on this matter!

[revan017]

Another example I can think of is a war table mission after you liberate the Crestwood Keep.

 

There is a war table mission to raise morale.

 

Cullen was like let's get them food cause rations suck (REALLY?)

Leliana wanted to give new shoes.

Josephine wanted to give books.

 

I obviously went with Josephine. I mean, I think it's the nicest thing to give them (I remember getting a nice reward for that. The soldiers were like....ooh books.

[Former_Fiend]

Another example I can think of is a war table mission after you liberate the Crestwood Keep.

 

There is a war table mission to raise morale.

 

Cullen was like let's get them food cause rations suck (REALLY?)

Leliana wanted to give new shoes.

Josephine wanted to give books.

 

I obviously went with Josephine. I mean, I think it's the nicest thing to give them (I remember getting a nice reward for that. The soldiers were like....ooh books.

 

I don't know, I remember them appreciating the hell out of the food.

 

Personally if I was a soldier stuck all the way out there, as much as I like a good book, I'd prefer a decent meal every day.

[EmperorSahlertz]

Another example I can think of is a war table mission after you liberate the Crestwood Keep.

 

There is a war table mission to raise morale.

 

Cullen was like let's get them food cause rations suck (REALLY?)

Leliana wanted to give new shoes.

Josephine wanted to give books.

 

I obviously went with Josephine. I mean, I think it's the nicest thing to give them (I remember getting a nice reward for that. The soldiers were like....ooh books.

Knowing soldiers, the food would probably have been appreciated more..

[Lianaar]

 

Like...there was the bard who was complaining about someone gossiping about her. And his response was "No. This is ridiculous". Or the Dalish halla he was like, "If it's that important, we'll send soldiers with the blasted Halla." Or like, we'll send soldiers. We'll send soldiers. WE'LL SEND SOLDIERS.

 

I loved both. I actually chose him for the bard. Because that was exactly what my inquisitor thought: leave me alone with this crap. So he sided with him.
Obviously he is responsible for the soldiers, so he adds what he can do. You can not ask him to lead the spies, for he is not leaders of the spies. You decide how your inquisitor is handling matters. If your inquisitor's personality is that who only sees soldier work everywhere, you'll rely heavily on Cullen. If however you are more prone to diplomacy, obviously it is not the army you ask to dance with nobles, right?
You can not expect a cook to make tables, it is not his pot. Or you can, but don't be surprised, if it won't bring the desired results.

[Esteed789]

Another example I can think of is a war table mission after you liberate the Crestwood Keep.

 

There is a war table mission to raise morale.

 

Cullen was like let's get them food cause rations suck (REALLY?)

Leliana wanted to give new shoes.

Josephine wanted to give books.

 

I obviously went with Josephine. I mean, I think it's the nicest thing to give them (I remember getting a nice reward for that. The soldiers were like....ooh books.

 

"Inquisition soldiers!  We know you are in a dank, undead-and-demon infested swamp!  We know the food we have been able to put together from this inhospitable place makes you wish you didn't have tongues!  We know these rations are barely enough to keep your bodies from beginning to consume themselves!  SO WE GOT YOU SOME BOOKS!"

 

...Yeah.  I'ma still go with Cullen on that one.

[Cerulione]

Another example I can think of is a war table mission after you liberate the Crestwood Keep.

 

There is a war table mission to raise morale.

 

Cullen was like let's get them food cause rations suck (REALLY?)

Leliana wanted to give new shoes.

Josephine wanted to give books.

 

I obviously went with Josephine. I mean, I think it's the nicest thing to give them (I remember getting a nice reward for that. The soldiers were like....ooh books.

 

It's possible that many soldiers don't like to read, or even don't know how to read. Food is always what everyone will enjoy. And believe me, for many people knowing that you'll get good hot food at the end of the day is always a welcome sight.

 

Just say that when it concerns soldiers, Cullen knows much better than Josie...

[dantares83]

u need him for some of the quests, if not u will fail. particularly if you are Dalish. U need him to save your clan.

[Cerulione]

u need him for some of the quests, if not u will fail. particularly if you are Dalish. U need him to save your clan.

 

Really?? I haven't play Dalish yet, but I'll in next PT. From what I remember from gameplay video's he wants to send soldiers... I thought it'll really like conquering or something else. So the clan won't be saved if you send Josie/Leliana?

[Xilizhra]

Really?? I haven't play Dalish yet, but I'll in next PT. From what I remember from gameplay video's he wants to send soldiers... I thought it'll really like conquering or something else. So the clan won't be saved if you send Josie/Leliana?

DO NOT send soldiers for your first move; your clan will get killed. Josephine will then get them killed in the second operation. After that, it branches depending on whether you chose Leliana or Cullen for that one.

[Earende]

There is a particular war table mission where Cullen's suggestion is by far the best.

 

Spoiler

One of your spies has been captured and you need to get them back before they talk.

Josephine suggest negotiating their release.

Leliana suggests either springing the guy or silencing him.

Cullen suggests claiming the spy is wanted by the Inquisition and sending a contingent to demand they be released into our custody. That is fricking brilliant. The mission report is hilarious too.

 

Never went with Cullen for that mission, so I don't know his outcome. I went with Leliana's, who suggested sending the spy tools to escape, but everything else is up to the spy.

 

Honestly, if I captured a self-proclaimed 'Orlesian spy' and immediately receive a bunch of soldiers requesting me to hand over the spy because they believe the spy have information they want, I'd be mighty suspicious.

[lyin321]

 I wish there was a dialogue about how Cullen is managing with leading the mages (especially if you give them full freedom). It would have been interesting discussion. Also merceneries....

[frylock23]

Yeah, I went with Cullen on giving the soldiers good food. If you check the list of things they suggest you send to actual soldiers serving overseas, those lists are always full of food items and personal hygiene gear even today, then you see some items like playing cards and maybe current magazines ... but it's mostly nonperishable convenience food and hygiene gear.

 

If the soldiers of today (who presumably have a much higher level of literacy than you average medieval peasant conscript) want stuff that tastes good instead of MREs, why would the soldiers in my Inquisition be much different?

[EmperorSahlertz]

Yeah, I went with Cullen on giving the soldiers good food. If you check the list of things they suggest you send to actual soldiers serving overseas, those lists are always full of food items and personal hygiene gear even today, then you see some items like playing cards and maybe current magazines ... but it's mostly nonperishable convenience food and hygiene gear.

 

If the soldiers of today (who presumably have a much higher level of literacy than you average medieval peasant conscript) want stuff that tastes good instead of MREs, why would the soldiers in my Inquisition be much different?

Trust me. Food is ALWAYS appreciated.

[Killdren88]

I hate how they make me use Cullen for certain things when I'd prefer not using him at all.

[LOLandStuff]

Trust me. Food is ALWAYS appreciated.

 

But what about shoes? Shoes are so pretty. Might as well sweat under the scorching sun in fashion.

[frylock23]

@EmperorSahlertz, I know food is always high on the list. I do/did have family in the military, so my posting was somewhat tongue in cheek.

[EmperorSahlertz]

But what about shoes? Shoes are so pretty. Might as well sweat under the scorching sun in fashion.

Oh trust me.. Serbia wasn't exactly a tropical vacation site, so any sneakers would've just gotten muddy.. Though sandals for walking around base? Sure why not, though it would be nice if I could eat something while walking around..

...

We are simple creatures when we are deployed.

[PrinceLionheart]

Your commander of your army recommends using your army. Weird.

 

 

Another example I can think of is a war table mission after you liberate the Crestwood Keep.

 

There is a war table mission to raise morale.

 

Cullen was like let's get them food cause rations suck (REALLY?)

Leliana wanted to give new shoes.

Josephine wanted to give books.

 

I obviously went with Josephine. I mean, I think it's the nicest thing to give them (I remember getting a nice reward for that. The soldiers were like....ooh books.

 

 

Cullen's response was actually the correct one though. He's improving what was actually wrong at the base while the other two are offering trivial token suggestions that have absolutely nothing to do with them. "I'm freezing my balls off and the food sucks. You know what would put me in a better mood? ****ing nice looking shoes and Swords and Shields."

[Monica21]

I don't know, I remember them appreciating the hell out of the food.

 

Personally if I was a soldier stuck all the way out there, as much as I like a good book, I'd prefer a decent meal every day.

 

I'm a librarian, and I approve of this post.

[Esteed789]

Look, guys, the Inquisition isn't just a spy network, or just a diplomatic force, or just a military organization.  You can run it that way if you want, but of course you're going to get some goofy-ass results.  If, however, you use your advisers wisely, sending them each on missions that suit their skillsets, you may be pleasantly surprised.

[Lianaar]

I hate how they make me use Cullen for certain things when I'd prefer not using him at all.

None makes you use him. You can chose not to use him. You can chose using less effective people or just not doing things which need your army.
The decision is yours and there is no force in picking something just because it is avaiable. Diversity of the game stems from this very choice.
The more choices you make the more different the game experience will be.

[Doominike]

I didn't really pay attention to the actual advice they all gave, I just picked how I wanted to deal with situations and chose who fit the best, or picked the one who'd do it faster in the case of situations I don't care about, which is most of them. My Adaar picked his solution most of the time cause she was the brute force/direct/blunt type. It's what she did in person her whole life and it always worked fine so she ruled the same way basically

[GoatLady]

Knowing soldiers, the food would probably have been appreciated more..

Seriously, I've been in the military. Do not underestimate the importance of good food to soldiers.

Although at this point I have a bad reaction to ice cream because one CO used to hand it out before announcing horrible things like "actually we're staying out here another month."