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#126
EmperorSahlertz

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Seriously, I've been in the military. Do not underestimate the importance of good food to soldiers.

Although at this point I have a bad reaction to ice cream because one CO used to hand it out before announcing horrible things like "actually we're staying out here another month." ;)

Our XO usually did something similar. He offered packs of smokes on the day before a night mission, during which we weren't allowed to smoke, since that would give away posistions and make us targets.. But it gave us soemthing to come back for  :)



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I like Josie but some of her advice was stupid, like the books in the freaking desert. Um, no thanks, they want food not books. There are times when Josie comes through but most of her advice consists of asking other people to do our job. I admit that I haven't used Josie as much as Cullen and Leliana so when I did decide to trust her advice (to just her a shot) and use her for a mission, it turned out that the people she asked for help were working for the enemy and got a lot of our people killed. Had to reload and go with Leliana. smh.



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The war table stuff was junk to begin with for every adviser, most of leliana's stuff was send assassins or stealthily help someone, josie's was send someone to talk about it, and cullen's was send soldiers... yeah its boring, but that's just what the war table stuff is.

 

However, i was surprised by his character this time around....  im especially noted for hating him with a passion, but i found him a lot more likeable this time around.


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#129
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Frankly, in many situation I agree with Cullen's method and his approach to the problem. There is a time when diplomacy and espionage cannot solve every problem.

 

And honestly, there are many times when he's right about it. The number of times during my first playthrough that either Josephine or Leliana came back with poor results, but on the second playthrough Cullen came back with good ones, is greater than I expected.

 

It may seem like Cullen's approach is heavy-handed. However, some people are going to respond to the military or simply seeing the military in action more than others, and sometimes diplomats and spies will make a mess of things where a well-disciplined military will not. Don't discount Cullen's advice. I was overly dependent upon Leliana and Josephine last game and I believe it cost me in the long run.



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Cullen's seriousness got to the point where I would just burst on laughing. Like when he said "No. This is Ridiculous" over that bard quest, or about *a head on a pike*. He's so serious (or not) to the point that it's really funny. And that "Lake Calenhad on the map looks like a bunny " thing. Bwahahahahahahahahaha


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None makes you use him. You can chose not to use him. You can chose using less effective people or just not doing things which need your army.
The decision is yours and there is no force in picking something just because it is avaiable. Diversity of the game stems from this very choice.
The more choices you make the more different the game experience will be.

 

Really? Seems like I have to use him even when Joise and Leliana aren't on missions.



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Really? Seems like I have to use him even when Joise and Leliana aren't on missions.

 

Could be a bug.  There are some missions where you have to use one adviser and the others are locked out, but those are pretty few and far between.  I used Josie and Leliana quite a bit in my first playthrough with no trouble.



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Another example I can think of is a war table mission after you liberate the Crestwood Keep.

 

There is a war table mission to raise morale.

 

Cullen was like let's get them food cause rations suck (REALLY?)

Leliana wanted to give new shoes.

Josephine wanted to give books.

 

I obviously went with Josephine. I mean, I think it's the nicest thing to give them (I remember getting a nice reward for that. The soldiers were like....ooh books.

 

 

Um...the food is very much the best idea.

 

It's really, really the best idea.

 

I cannot imagine how much their rations must suck.


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#134
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It's up to you when to use subterfuge, when to use diplomacy and when to use the army. It's his job to say how the army could be used, not come up with alternative. Also, there are times when he just says, 'No. That's stupid.' If he can find a way for the army to contribute, h'ell tell you what that option is. If not, he won't. Your choice on when to use it. Also, I suspect that if you picked all subterfuge, the body count would be higher, lol.



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I'm surprised there are people who disliked Cullen as an adviser. As a character, sure, you can't please everyone, but as an adviser I loved him. His cards were hilarious. "No, this is foolish," and "We'll match the blasted thing in with soldiers," had me in stitches. He's practical, pragmatic, and most of the time I felt his cards were the best option and was only too disappointed I had to wait to use him again. After his mage-hating spree in DA:2, I was sure I'd hate him in Inquisition, but the cards are actually what won me over for him.


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#136
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My favorite card of his was definitely the one about the Grey Warden treaties. I was like **** yeah, I never agreed with a war table decision more. Fake Blackwall or no, the Inquisition shouldn't have to apologize for using something so practical, important, and well-intentioned as those treaties. Especially considering what the Wardens are guilty of. I didn't exile the Wardens, but what happened was still horrible and shameful, and they owe us that much. What does it matter that a criminal helped us get them? They're treaties. Like Cullen said, the Inquisition has every right to capitalize on those treaties without an ounce of shame.



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I don't know if it's just me, but Cullen's take on most of the missions are just...questionable. Like, it's as if his answer to everything is we'll send soldiers. You can't solve everything with soldiers, Cullen! I spend a lot of time, after assigning Josephine and Leliana wondering where to put him and eventually just getting him to pick up rocks.

 

Like...there was the bard who was complaining about someone gossiping about her. And his response was "No. This is ridiculous". Or the Dalish halla he was like, "If it's that important, we'll send soldiers with the blasted Halla." Or like, we'll send soldiers. We'll send soldiers. WE'LL SEND SOLDIERS.

 

We get it. You like soldiers.

 

Like Soviet Russia and tanks. Hungarian uprising? SEND IN THE TANKS. Polish Solidarity? TANKS. Lithuanian resistance? TAAAANKS!!!!!!

 

That being said, though, I love him as an adviser, as I love all of the other ones. I like how their characters are established through their little snippets, and it's one of the things I genuinely enjoy about the War Room, which I otherwise find kinda unnecessary and dull. Like Leliana's response to Varric's works being plagiarised is just "LET'S CONTACT THE CROWS".


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Lol Cullen doesn't like playing games like that, he's direct and straightforward.

Until you flirt with him.. 


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Um...the food is very much the best idea.

 

It's really, really the best idea.

 

I cannot imagine how much their rations must suck.

 

Yeah, especially when you remember that the forces are the Western Approach which is a desert. If normal military rations are bad, those guys have probably be given stuff that'd have been made with those arid conditions in mind, where normal food is going to not remain fresh for very long.

 

Cullen's suggestion to supply them with some fresh food, even if it's a hassle shipping it out in the middle of nowhere and needs to be done regularly because it'll spoil quickly, honestly is the better morale booster as it shows that the Inqusition cares about them and acknowledges that they've got the absolutely worst post out of all three Keeps in the game.

 

Sure, Emprise du Lion has Red Lyrium growing everywhere, but at least their Keep there don't have to worry about refridgeration for their grub. Plus they have rebuilding the town to keep them busy and get to relax by having the odd snowfight or making snowmen on their off-hours... the guys in the Western Approach are stuck between the Abyssal Rift and sulphur pits, with nothing to do!


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The funniest Cullen suggestion I've seen is on
 
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where he wants to send soldiers to storm the Val Royeaux prison. No Cullen, we're not starting a war with Orlais, particularly not when I've just got Celene and Gaspard to stop squabbling with each other.
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#141
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People who are frank and "blunt" as you call him are more trustworthy than people who play with their words. Cullen is honest and straight-forward, he does exactly as he says and I like him and I use him a LOT in missions because I feel he is better suited to majority of the jobs on the table.


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#142
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I must admit, it was good to see Cullen's take on Sebastian, calling out his attempts to annex Kirkwall simply because Anders once lived there as being rather petty and childish revenge. Especially as rather than support him like Josie and Leliana wanted, Cullen's suggestion was to instead help out Aveline and the Kirkwall resistance, since he didn't want to see the city suffer yet another major battle for the third time in less than a decade.


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#143
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Cullen is no more pigeonholed than the other two, and his straightforwardness can be quite refreshing. Plus, sometimes it feels like Cullen is the only one who still sees and cares for people (normal people, not influential nobles with vaults full of gold) instead of just the big cause. That early mission with the refugees is the best example. Josie is a good character, and her work is crucial, but dear Andraste, all that noble-(s)mooching is not for me. And Leliana? Let's just say I'm powerfully glad that my Warden is dead, because she wouldn't even recognize this Leliana anymore.


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I had to chime in s well.  Cullen's got some great use of soldiers, such as when they relieve the refugees by handing out food and blankets, when they rescue the captured spy by taking custody, or smuggling out an operative hidden in the ranks of his soldiers.

 

But sometimes Cullen's suggestions also have a brilliant sense of timing and synergy that has to be noticed.  Like in the redeemed Grey Warden-Darkspawn chain of War Table missions, you can't open with Cullen, and there's a few choices that can go different ways- but for the second to last mission (it feels like a forceful coup de grace unless you read the walkthrough) Josie suggests you wait just long enough for her to borrow a noble's trebuchets, and if you do that, then follow up with Cullen's forces, the mission is a total rout for the enemy and you don't end up decimating the Grey Wardens. 

 

I've since begun keeping my eyes open for one-two combos like that.


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But like Leliana and Josephine were at least CREATIVE with their suggestions. There was always a way to outmanuever it. It was...The Game as they both say. Cullen just likes to stab things. Like, I noticed it the most when the Skyhold bard was complaining about a fellow bard gossiping about her. It was obviously important to her but Cullen was like, No. This is ridiculous. Even Leliana wanted to cut the bard's tongue out! (Forgot what Josie's option was. I liked the tongue-cutting.)

 

 

It is fascinating how various people can percieve things so differently. That mission actually made up my mind about never ever supporting Leliana as the future Devine. To cut somebody's tongue out because of something so petty as a playground squabble I found absolutely frightening. Leliana is a sweet girl, but completely unhinged. Cullen was right in his approach, but because I liked the bard (I think her songs are really rather nice), I went with Josephine.

 

Cullen is the voice of common sense on the wartable. I love his dry remarks about the more bizzare missions. And of course, nobody is forced to use him.


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#146
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I think some of the remarks favoring Cullen's approach to handling Maryden's rival oversimplify the situation a bit, if I understand them properly. Maryden makes clear she has a more than professional interest in seeing this rival bard hurt, but Maryden's description of the situation (if true) really does seem to give the Inquisitor a stake in making her shut up. I can see Cullen's reaction's appeal, especially given how much Maryden's rival will otherwise suffer over so little (even Josephine seems to be asking your permission to ruin her professionally, if I understand that option correctly) but at the end of the day Cullen really is advising you to ignore a PR problem, rather than merely advising you to ignore an inconsequential schoolyard rivalry.



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Well... that's the point.

Josephine's answer to everything is "Let's appeal to the nobles", while Leliana's answer is always "We'll murder/ Blackmail them".

It just so happens that the military approach isn't a good choice as often. But there definitely are situations that demand strength and a direct approach rather than beating around the bush with spying and politics.

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How could Cullen do anything else on the War Table? He can't send forces to skulk about; that's Leliana's realm. How can he really be creative, give one example please, if all other avenues have been locked out for him?



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How could Cullen do anything else on the War Table? He can't send forces to skulk about; that's Leliana's realm. How can he really be creative, give one example please, if all other avenues have been locked out for him?

He can order the men under him to build a bridge. The avenue that everyone here seems to expect of him would be the rather less creative "force someone else to do it."



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Honestly I get a sense of the advisers from the Civilization games sometimes from the DA advisers. 

 

Like how in Civ Revolution the opening shows a scientist saying "We can use this design for space travel!!" and the general goes "But have you considered.... using it for world domination?"

 

Then in the game proper the general's like "THEY'RE NO MATCH FOR OUR MIGHT".