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[Warden Commander Aeducan]

The funniest Cullen suggestion I've seen is on
 

Spoiler

the operation to get Blackwall out of jail

 
where he wants to send soldiers to storm the Val Royeaux prison. No Cullen, we're not starting a war with Orlais, particularly not when I've just got Celene and Gaspard to stop squabbling with each other.

While I do agree and share your idea that the Inquisition shouldn't try to start a war with Orlais, but Cullen's suggestion can't be the only one that worse. You should see Leliana's suggestion on "Deal with the Angry Varghests" war table mission, and if you followed her suggestion that the Inquisition should have their veteran rangers leading the beast to other place, where they can establish themselves, it result in Rylen wrote a bitter report about the Inquisition lost soldiers to the sandstorms, yawning pits of death while the local wild life is safe, and that's what's important right?

 

Honestly, all advisers can give you poor suggestion or bad advice from time to time, it's not just Cullen alone.

[Deebo305]

Cullen earned alot of respect from me recently after I did the Jaws of Hakkon final war table mission

Spoiler

If you decide to reveal Inquisitor Ameriden was an elven mage, you get a WT mission that reveals an Orlesian noble house has been profiting off his name for centuries, pretending to be his descendants.

A Dalish Clan (his actual descendants) want reparations from the nobles that have been doing everything they can to hide the truth for decades so you get 3 choices

Josie- Hide the truth, appease the noble (dafaq O_o)

Leliana- Recruit the Dalish, Hide the truth, blackmail nobles (ehh...)

Cullen - Reveal the truth, make the snobs pay up, earn elven respect (thats what I'm talking about. )

[TEWR]

wait.... how do you get that war table mission? I never got that. Like what did you do specifically to reveal he's a mage and open it up? 

[BabyPuncher]

Spoiler

If you decide to reveal Inquisitor Ameriden was an elven mage, you get a WT mission that reveals an Orlesian noble house has been profiting off his name for centuries, pretending to be his descendants.

A Dalish Clan (his actual descendants) want reparations from the nobles that have been everything they xouls to hide the truth for decades so you get 3 choices

Josie- Hide the truth, appease the noble (dafaq O_o)

Leliana- Recruit the Dalish, Hide the truth, blackmail nobles (ehh...)

Cullen - Reveal the truth, make the snobs pay up, earn elven respect (thats what I'm talking about :cool: )

 

Gee, sticking it to nobility by handsomely rewarding people because their long dead ancestors did something. No hypocrisy there.

[Deebo305]

wait.... how do you get that war table mission? I never got that. Like what did you do specifically to reveal he's a mage and open it up?

Talk to the Professor(forgot his name lol) after beating Hakkon, reveal Ameriden lineage and you get the misson

@Babypuncher

They were profiting off his name and the mission suggest they were entirely aware of it, so why not let his actual relative get their just due

[BabyPuncher]

They were profiting off his name and the mission suggest they were entirely aware of it, so why not let his actual relative get their just due

 

Is the actual relative somehow deserving of it?

 

Better idea: Reveal the truth. Confiscate the money and donate it wherever. The elven family gets the right story heard. That should be enough for them.
 

[TEWR]

Checked the wiki for the details, but thank you Deebo for the info nonetheless.

 

Is the actual relative somehow deserving of it?

 

Better idea: Reveal the truth. Confiscate the money and donate it wherever. The elven family gets the right story heard. That should be enough for them.
 

 

The truth is more important then some Orlesian git's social standing amongst other gits and gitettes by using a claim they know to be false as their backing.

 

The clan in question had been arguing it for years, saying they were his descendants, and were always shouted down and disbelieved by authorities for no other reason then they were Elves. I'd say they deserve the reparations because the D'amerides were profiting off of the man's name. All the things they took through their lies are the rightful property of the clan in question.

 

The nobles' make reparations that will see the clan through the winter, at least, but that's only the start. They knew the truth and now it's biting them in the ass so it's really their own damn fault for misusing it.

[BabyPuncher]

 

The truth is more important then some Orlesian git's social standing amongst other gits and gitettes by using a claim they know to be false as their backing.

 

The clan in question had been arguing it for years, saying they were his descendants, and were always shouted down and disbelieved by authorities for no other reason then they were Elves. I'd say they deserve the reparations because the D'amerides were profiting off of the man's name. All the things they took through their lies are the rightful property of the clan in question.

 

The nobles' make reparations that will see the clan through the winter, at least, but that's only the start. They knew the truth and now it's biting them in the ass so it's really their own damn fault for misusing it.

 

I actually did read the first post on what happened. So you aren't convincing me of anything by repeating it to me. Why are you telling me this as if I'm not aware that profiting off a false name is not a nice thing to do?

 

You would think, given the Inquisitor is the Bestest And Most Awesomest Person in all Thedas ever, they would just dismantle the whole nobelity by sheer power of being the Bestest And Most Awesomest Person.

[Bugsie]

Actually, it's Cullen's role as advisor that sold him as a character to me.  I'd been absolutely indifferent to him prior to that.

[Xilizhra]

Is the actual relative somehow deserving of it?

 

Better idea: Reveal the truth. Confiscate the money and donate it wherever. The elven family gets the right story heard. That should be enough for them.

Dalish clans tend to be impoverished anyway, so the money will do good going there regardless.

[MoonDrummer]

While I do agree and share your idea that the Inquisition shouldn't try to start a war with Orlais, but Cullen's suggestion can't be the only one that worse. You should see Leliana's suggestion on "Deal with the Angry Varghests" war table mission, and if you followed her suggestion that the Inquisition should have their veteran rangers leading the beast to other place, where they can establish themselves, it result in Rylen wrote a bitter report about the Inquisition lost soldiers to the sandstorms, yawning pits of death while the local wild life is safe, and that's what's important right?

 

Honestly, all advisers can give you poor suggestion or bad advice from time to time, it's not just Cullen alone.

I should really start reading the war table messages. I wonder how many atrocities I have committed. 

[Warden Commander Aeducan]

I should really start reading the war table messages. I wonder how many atrocities I have committed. 

More than we think, especially when we listen to the wrong person's suggestion for the job. I know this thread is about criticize Cullen's approach to the problem, but sometimes Josie and Leliana manage to deliver toe worst possible outcome. 

[Fiery Phoenix]

I thought he was okay.

[Xilizhra]

While I do agree and share your idea that the Inquisition shouldn't try to start a war with Orlais, but Cullen's suggestion can't be the only one that worse. You should see Leliana's suggestion on "Deal with the Angry Varghests" war table mission, and if you followed her suggestion that the Inquisition should have their veteran rangers leading the beast to other place, where they can establish themselves, it result in Rylen wrote a bitter report about the Inquisition lost soldiers to the sandstorms, yawning pits of death while the local wild life is safe, and that's what's important right?

 

Honestly, all advisers can give you poor suggestion or bad advice from time to time, it's not just Cullen alone.

Well... to be fair, the fact that the varghests were angry was our fault to begin with, and I don't know if the Inquisitor is to blame for the sudden appearance of natural hazards that were never there on her own trips through the Western Approach.

[wiccame]

I don't know if it's just me, but Cullen's take on most of the missions are just...questionable. Like, it's as if his answer to everything is we'll send soldiers. You can't solve everything with soldiers, Cullen! I spend a lot of time, after assigning Josephine and Leliana wondering where to put him and eventually just getting him to pick up rocks.

 

Like...there was the bard who was complaining about someone gossiping about her. And his response was "No. This is ridiculous". Or the Dalish halla he was like, "If it's that important, we'll send soldiers with the blasted Halla." Or like, we'll send soldiers. We'll send soldiers. WE'LL SEND SOLDIERS.

 

We get it. You like soldiers.

It's no different to Leliana wanting to assassinate everyone or Josephine trying to give all my money away. They go with their strengths,  Cullen is a warrior so of course he wants to charge in and deal with the fallout later. I personally choose him nearly all the time for major missions. No nonsense, no pandering, just get the job done.

[Han Shot First]

Cullen isn't the only adviser with the occasional bad idea.

 

Leliana wants to cut a woman's tongue out because she made up a song that says the Inquisition sucks.

[WildOrchid]

Cullen isn't the only adviser with the occasional bad idea.

 

Leliana wants to cut a woman's tongue out because she made up a song that says the Inquisition sucks.

 

Ugh, totally wtf moment here.

[Warden Commander Aeducan]

Well... to be fair, the fact that the varghests were angry was our fault to begin with, and I don't know if the Inquisitor is to blame for the sudden appearance of natural hazards that were never there on her own trips through the Western Approach.

Our fault? Did you forget that a Varghest is one of the hostile wildlife in the Western Approach to begin with, and they are likely going to attack anyone even when they aren't invading their territory. I don't need to justify myself heeding Cullen's suggestion, since the beast has attacked the Inquisitor and his forces first even when they weren't harassed. 

 

I didn't know why you have to make it an issue, and I can assure you that I'm not trying to bash Leliana, but I don't think her approach to the problem should be above criticism either. If you read my entire post and get the point where I'm saying every advisers can come up with an idea that will result poorly from time to time.

[Xilizhra]

Our fault? Did you forget that a Varghest is one of the hostile wildlife in the Western Approach to begin with, and they are likely going to attack anyone even when they aren't invading their territory. I don't need to justify myself heeding Cullen's suggestion, since the beast has attacked the Inquisitor and his forces first even when they weren't harassed. 

 

I didn't know why you have to make it an issue, and I can assure you that I'm not trying to bash Leliana, but I don't think her approach to the problem should be above criticism either. If you read my entire post and get the point where I'm saying every advisers can come up with an idea that will result poorly from time to time.

I wasn't actually trying to make anything an issue, just pointing out my opinion on something. It's definitely true that all the advisers can screw up.

[Warden Commander Aeducan]

I wasn't actually trying to make anything an issue, just pointing out my opinion on something. It's definitely true that all the advisers can screw up.

I just wanted to make it clear, and like you I'm also just expressing my opinion on the matter. Well, no one is perfect and all the advisers can either screw up or save the day.

[TEWR]

To be honest if varghests were some rare type of animal that aren't seen very often I would've heeded Leliana's advice, no matter their tendency to try and bite me in the ass.

 

As it stands they're actually incredibly common so a few dead varghests in the area isn't gonna be that big a deal.

[myahele]

I would've preferred him as a companion and maybe Casssandra as an adviser

[MoonDrummer]

I wish I could have sacked him and replaced him with Loghain. But I would have taken Teagan or Eamon.