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Genuinely not liking Cullen as an adviser


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#176
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Each advisor has their take on situations. Cullen is direct, doesn't like to play political games, and naturally geared towards using soldiers. Josephine is probably the most appealing to "good" characters as she prefers non-violent, diplomatic means to get results. Like Josephine, Leliana is adept at politics, but is ruthless. She favors secrecy (naturally) and appeals to more "evil" characters; as much as this game allows evilness.

 

No advisor is capable of solving every situation in the best way. You need to choose which is best for what. In many situations sending soldiers is the best route.



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I love Cullen's solutions to a lot of problems.

 

Mission: A destitute noble girl wants out of a marriage to a wealthy man she doesn't love to marry the poor soldier she does. Should we kill her betrothed?

Josephine: Sure. Not for us to judge.

Leliana: Sure, but let's do it AFTER she marries the man. That way, she'd be wealthy and grateful to us.

Cullen: Is murder better if done for love or power? Screw these nobles, the Inquisition is better than this.

 

Mission: Local beasts are inferring with our water sources for our new fort.

Leliana: Get our rangers to lure the beasts to a new home.(This option gets a few of said rangers killed)

Cullen: Get our rangers to kill the beasts. Problem solved. (This option seems to result in no lost rangers)

 

Mission: A city is being attacked by Darkspawn. Should we send the Wardens?

Josephine: Just get the local lords to help out and save the Wardens up for later. (High casualties to the Wardens after the noble forces get held up)

Leliana: Let's make sure it's actually Darkspwan. (It is. Medium casualties for the Wardens)

Cullen: Yes. (Wardens go in and kick some serious Darkspawn ass. Low casualties for everyone.)

 

Don't blame a hammer because sewing needles and pliers can solve more problems more creatively. When you've got a nail you need to drive in, you'll be thankful for the hammer. Besides, without the hammer, would the needles and pliers look as good as they do?


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#178
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It irks me that Cullen allows Inquisition soldiers to get killed because he won't let Viuus Anaxas raise the dead to help them fight the Venatori.


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#179
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But he has great hair. I find that an important when picking my advisers. So who would you have instead?



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The entire game would have been the same if Cullen wasn't there. Cory would still have been defeated, The Mage templar war would have still ended, and we would have won the war all the same. I don't consider Cullen to be a keystone.

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I like Cullen as an advisor, but how cool would it have been if Aveline was the commander and Cullen was leading the Templars who followed the Inquisition? There wouldn't be much of a difference in how each would approach a mission. And Aveline could have her own personal quest, like, being offered a place in the Orlesian court.

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I find that I use Cullen and Leliana the most. I hardly ever use Josephine. All of her ideas are like "Lets get the nobles to do everything for us." Ummm...no thanks. I would rather not be indebted to some poncy noble jerks. Also, she got my clan killed. Not trusting her after that. Most of the time Cullen has the most straightforward approach and it works most of the time. Leliana has some extreme ideas, sure, but sometimes you just need to shank a b*tch.

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I like Cullen as an advisor, but how cool would it have been if Aveline was the commander and Cullen was leading the Templars who followed the Inquisition? There wouldn't be much of a difference in how each would approach a mission. And Aveline could have her own personal quest, like, being offered a place in the Orlesian court.

Aveline's pretty desperately needed in Kirkwall, though. Not that I entirely disagree with you, but I do like Cullen's story arc of ultimately leaving the templars altogether.


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#184
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Actually, it's Cullen's role as advisor that sold him as a character to me.  I'd been absolutely indifferent to him prior to that.

This.

He was always the guy in the purple prison in the Mage Tower until I played the Mage Origin in one of my canon and even then he was just some Templar explaining me the Harrowing from a Templar pov.

 

In DA2, he was just a re-used NPC for those who played Origins.


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#185
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Actually, it's Cullen's role as advisor that sold him as a character to me.  I'd been absolutely indifferent to him prior to that.

 

Same here. I neither played DA2 nor a mage in DA:O so for me he was kind of "Who? Oh, that guy," forgettable, combined with utter bafflement at his fan-crowd and a lot of wariness over what such a blantant fanservice character would be like in Inquisition. Turns out I actually like him now -- his straightforward, no-nonsense approach as well as his decication to our troops clicked with me better than Leliana or Josephine, plus I have to give him props for struggling with the lyrium withdrawal while working his arse off for our cause.

 

And as I said before, all the advisors suffer from the same one-note-wonder syndrome in equal measure in the war table missions at times, so picking on Cullen only over that is rather unfair.



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Same here. I neither played DA2 nor a mage in DA:O so for me he was kind of "Who? Oh, that guy," forgettable, combined with utter bafflement at his fan-crowd and a lot of wariness over what such a blantant fanservice character would be like in Inquisition. Turns out I actually like him now -- his straightforward, no-nonsense approach as well as his decication to our troops clicked with me better than Leliana or Josephine, plus I have to give him props for struggling with the lyrium withdrawal while working his arse off for our cause.

 

And as I said before, all the advisors suffer from the same one-note-wonder syndrome in equal measure in the war table missions at times, so picking on Cullen only over that is rather unfair.

I do have to question his dedication a little bit with the whole "let soldiers die because zomg, we can't use undead" thing.



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I do have to question his dedication a little bit with the whole "let soldiers die because zomg, we can't use undead" thing.

 

Yeah, because raising the dead never turned out bad for anyone.



#188
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Yeah, because raising the dead never turned out bad for anyone.

Actually, I don't think it's ever turned out badly for the one doing the raising. But in any case, that wasn't Cullen's objection; he was just worried about religious matters.



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Yeah, because raising the dead never turned out bad for anyone.

 

And it's not like it's gonna affect the soldiers' morale seeing their dead comrades reanimated.


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#190
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And it's not like it's gonna affect the soldiers' morale seeing their dead comrades reanimated.

Given that said dead comrades would be killing Venatori so they don't have to, one would hope that it'd be a positive effect.



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The entire game would have been the same if Cullen wasn't there. Cory would still have been defeated, The Mage templar war would have still ended, and we would have won the war all the same. I don't consider Cullen to be a keystone.

Same could be said for Leliana and Josephine and anyone else for that matter. 

You have some serious chip on your shoulder about Cullen don't you? Reminds me of a certain flying insect that pops up every now and then about Alistair.  :ph34r:



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Actually, I don't think it's ever turned out badly for the one doing the raising. But in any case, that wasn't Cullen's objection; he was just worried about religious matters.

Would you let fear compromise your morals?  He can be dedicated without resorting to something he finds questionable.



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Want to raise dead people ? i don't know which mission you're talking about, but this is a scary idea.



#194
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Want to raise dead people ? i don't know which mission you're talking about, but this is a scary idea.

It's a mission that pops up if you choose the necromancer spec.



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Oh i see thx, that why i don't know this quest !


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#196
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Would you let fear compromise your morals?  He can be dedicated without resorting to something he finds questionable.

 

Well, the deceased don't get to be dedicated to anything ever again.



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Ehhh, I think his suggestions were consistent with his character/role. Just as much as Leliana (spies/stealth) or Josephine (diplomacy). I might not always agree but I don't have to agree with him in order to like/appreciate the character.


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#198
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Would you let fear compromise your morals?  He can be dedicated without resorting to something he finds questionable.

I would dislike morals that put leaving corpses alone over keeping living people alive.



#199
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Well, the deceased don't get to be dedicated to anything ever again.

IIRC Part of Cullen's response was that they weren't even Nevarran and therefore didn't even believe in such things so you could argue that he was looking out for what they would have wanted.



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IIRC Part of Cullen's response was that they weren't even Nevarran and therefore didn't even believe in such things so you could argue that he was looking out for what they would have wanted.

 

I was talking about the ones who die when necromancy is not used.