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[Ashagar]

Generally seeing one's comrades remains being defiled is generally not good for moral, doesn't reflect well on a organization supposedly fighting for a holy cause and certainly doesn't make a friends out of the families of the fallen solders.

[wiccame]

Generally seeing one's comrades remains being defiled is generally not good for moral, doesn't reflect well on a organization supposedly fighting for a holy cause and certainly doesn't make a friends out of the families of the fallen solders.

I was just about to say the same thing only not so well put so thanks

 

 

I was talking about the ones who die when necromancy is not used.

I was talking about the ones that were going to be used in the quest.

[The Baconer]

I was talking about the ones that were going to be used in the quest.

 

Nevarran dead are mummified, the Inquisition soldiers, should they be reanimated, are cremated as per southern custom.

 

Buuuut I'm sure those who are sent to collect them can take comfort in knowing my moral code remains unstained... at the cost of their lives.

[thesuperdarkone2]

Do people realize that the necromancy is only for one battle and afterwards the corpses return to being corpses.

[Digger1967]

I don't know if it's just me, but Cullen's take on most of the missions are just...questionable. Like, it's as if his answer to everything is we'll send soldiers. You can't solve everything with soldiers, Cullen! I spend a lot of time, after assigning Josephine and Leliana wondering where to put him and eventually just getting him to pick up rocks.

 

Like...there was the bard who was complaining about someone gossiping about her. And his response was "No. This is ridiculous". Or the Dalish halla he was like, "If it's that important, we'll send soldiers with the blasted Halla." Or like, we'll send soldiers. We'll send soldiers. WE'LL SEND SOLDIERS.

 

We get it. You like soldiers.

 

Well seriously, of course he wants to send them out.  Those poor guys are probably bored out of their minds and driving him crazy.  They signed up to save the world, and they get stuck at skyhold and never get to go anywhere or do anything.  That grandstanding Inquisitor is out fighting all the dragons and the demons, heck he won't even send them on errands to get potion for some guys sick wife or let them turn on any elven artifacts by themselves.  

 

So naturally when Cullen finally does manage to send them out in the real world the first group gets slaughtered and the second gets captured and you have to go and rescue them.  So ya, the guy wants to get troops into the field so bad he can barely see straight, can you blame him?

 

Lol

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

Do people realize that the necromancy is only for one battle and afterwards the corpses return to being corpses.

If you're lucky. My understanding is that spirits are involved. If true, that makes things unpredictable and potentially interesting.

[wiccame]

Do people realize that the necromancy is only for one battle and afterwards the corpses return to being corpses.

It's still desecration. 

[thesuperdarkone2]

It's still desecration. 

 

Is desecration worse than letting soldiers die when the reanimated corpses could stop the venatori?

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

 

Is desecration worse than letting soldiers die when the reanimated corpses could stop the venatori?

 

In and of itself, no.

[Killdren88]

Same could be said for Leliana and Josephine and anyone else for that matter. 

You have some serious chip on your shoulder about Cullen don't you? Reminds me of a certain flying insect that pops up every now and then about Alistair. 

 

I've said many times before. I hate Cullen. I hate his character, I hate his development. I hate the fact he lasted as long as he has in these games. I hated him in Origins where he from a stuttering idiot when he talked to my Fem mage It isn't charming its annoying. And I hated his insane whining when he was in the bubble. I wanted to put him out of his deranged ravings. Then came DA2 where he takes Bethany, I was hoping for swift revenge all through the game, but no. He acts like we are buddies when all I wanted to do was stab him. And then I side with the Mages just for a chance to gut him, but no! Suddenly turns against Meredith.  Now we come full circle here where I have to work with him, and since I can't get rid of him, I'll take what joy I can by toying with his Lyrium addiction and hope at the end of the game he is a decrepit addict lost to madness which at that point he will beg for death. 

[The Baconer]

Is desecration worse than letting soldiers die when the reanimated corpses could stop the venatori?

 

I mean, not even so much stopping the Venatori as preventing more casualties among the Inquisition's men and women.

 

If the soldiers could be told what they were accomplishing in death, would they consider it a desecration, I wonder?

[wiccame]

 

Is desecration worse than letting soldiers die when the reanimated corpses could stop the venatori?

 

For the record I have played a necromancer and have used the bodies, but we are talking about a man who at his core fears magic and is religious and he is being asked to ignore all that and its implications, of course he is going to refuse.

[wiccame]

I mean, not even so much stopping the Venatori as preventing more casualties among the Inquisition's men and women.

 

If the soldiers could be told what they were accomplishing in death, would they consider it a desecration, I wonder?

But that's the thing isn't it? They can't be told and they can't be asked. So is it right to just use their bodies like that, shouldn't they be allowed to be left alone...you know, in peace?

[The Baconer]

But that's the thing isn't it? They can't be told and they can't be asked. So is it right to just use their bodies like that, shouldn't they be allowed to be left alone...you know, in peace?

 

Given the situation, yes, they should be used.

 

I'm not the one who has to make the sacrifice if we choose not to use their bodies (me being in Cullen's place within this scenario). Of what worth is my own sense of righteousness if that is the case?

[DarkKnightHolmes]

I think all the advisers are pretty much one-dimensional when it comes to missions. I honestly don't even see a reason for including them so much in the game.

 

Could've just had random fresh nobodies as your advisers and make Cullen a companion and Leliana a one-mission character like Morrigan.

[Lynas]

I think all the advisers are pretty much one-dimensional when it comes to missions. I honestly don't even see a reason for including them so much in the game.

 

Could've just had random fresh nobodies as your advisers and make Cullen a companion and Leliana a one-mission character like Morrigan.

Totally agree with this

[Warden Commander Aeducan]

Cullen's method of protecting Magister Tilani embodies the spirit of the Inquisition.

 

What's not to like?

I favor Cullen's approach on that mission, a rather bold move but I love the result. Just imagine the face of those Tevinter magisters when they encounter a foe with the ability to disrupt magic. Priceless. 

[Excella Gionne]

...Nice hair, though. That's nuff reason to put him on the A-Team.

[Warden Commander Aeducan]

The shiny red uniforms are missing though.

Nobody expects the Andrastian Inquisition!

 

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

But that's the thing isn't it? They can't be told and they can't be asked. So is it right to just use their bodies like that, shouldn't they be allowed to be left alone...you know, in peace?

This setting has necromancy that brings back the soul (which I think might be the first really good hint that death is not the end in Thedas, assuming there's no alternative explanation for it) but I didn't think most of it did. If that's true, I don't think there's much of a problem with using the body assuming the soul (which seems to me to be the sacred part of the dead person's remains) is left undefiled.

 

Edit: And even if I'm wrong there, I'd still be willing to use necromancy that defiles a dead soul in order to help some living souls keep their bodies longer.

 

Edit2: Also note that I'm not commenting on whether or not I think this is a good idea. I'm merely commenting on the morality of defiling corpses.

[Inverse_Twilight]

This setting has necromancy that brings back the soul (which I think might be the first really good hint that death is not the end in Thedas, assuming there's no alternative explanation for it) but I didn't think most of it did. If that's true, I don't think there's much of a problem with using the body assuming the soul (which seems to me to be the sacred part of the dead person's remains) is left undefiled.
 
Edit: And even if I'm wrong there, I'd still be willing to use necromancy that defiles a dead soul in order to help some living souls keep their bodies longer.
 
Edit2: Also note that I'm not commenting on whether or not I think this is a good idea. I'm merely commenting on the morality of defiling corpses.

Im pretty sure the necromancy trainer guys tells you that the original soul travels through the fade to the makers side and they use a spirit of the fade to inhabit the body. So the body would be just a body, I dont think it would be that big of a deal for their earthly bodies to help out.

[Lady Artifice]

This setting has necromancy that brings back the soul (which I think might be the first really good hint that death is not the end in Thedas, assuming there's no alternative explanation for it) but I didn't think most of it did. If that's true, I don't think there's much of a problem with using the body assuming the soul (which seems to me to be the sacred part of the dead person's remains) is left undefiled.

 

Edit: And even if I'm wrong there, I'd still be willing to use necromancy that defiles a dead soul in order to help some living souls keep their bodies longer.

 

Edit2: Also note that I'm not commenting on whether or not I think this is a good idea. I'm merely commenting on the morality of defiling corpses.

 

Exactly this. Would it be kinder to the dead to let them rest? Probably.

 

Would I temporarily sacrifice the dignity of the dead for the survival of the living? Absolutely. 

[Inverse_Twilight]

Arent the bodies of inquisition soldiers, men and women who pledged themselves to your cause? Who says that they would object to having their bodies continue to serve?