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[Grieving Natashina]

Hahaha...no. Anyone who believes this needs to have their picture put in the dictionary next to gullible. This is 100% PR spin.

 

It should be changed but I think they're making a huge mistake if they try to go the "it was a bug all along" route instead of, "here are options".

 

I just hope the replacement, if there is one, is good. I'll settle for wearing armor though a really nice formal outfit would be nice. However, BioWare has some questionable tastes between DA2's finery and now this.

And?  I don't give a crap if they want to call it a bug or not.   I don't care if it's PR spin or not.  I don't think it's a mistake to call it an issue all along.  It has been an issue, and one that I'm glad will finally be addressed. 

 

As far as the armor goes, I would create a look just for Skyhold.  I would rather have them not pick out my finery.  Between the DA2 mess, the MotA party outfit mess, the grey vinyl N7 dress from ME3, the Skyhold jammies and the Nutcracker Prince uniform, I don't trust BioWare to have much in the way of taste for clothing.

 

Maybe I'm just blind but I can't seem to find that statement anylonger. Thought I had seen it earlier this day.

https://twitter.com/...161159739023360

 

Scroll down to the answer by Dragonage below the name Andrew Jordan.

[Spectre Impersonator]

The fact that there is only one terrible casual outfit that cannot be changed is rather lame, I wholly agree.

[Efvie]

I don’t understand what you’re all complaining about. I find the suit very stylish and fitting both my characters, so obviously this is not a problem that needs to be addressed.

[Efvie]

 

https://twitter.com/...161159739023360

 

Scroll down to the answer by Dragonage below the name Andrew Jordan.

 

The tweets have been deleted, btw. I’m pretty sure the PR rep thought the complaint meant actual underwear/nude model.

[Blue_Shayde]

No. They just realized we weren't all idiots and knew it was a PR attempt to excuse their horrendous fashion mistake.

[Grieving Natashina]

 

The tweets have been deleted, btw. I’m pretty sure the PR rep thought the complaint meant actual underwear/nude model.

I'm still holding onto hope though.  

 

My main problem is the color.  Beige looks terrible, and the grey trim doesn't help.  It's also far too tight on the male models as well.  Besides, I hate the fact that I can customize my drapes and throne; I can customize the damned bed and I have stepped into that room twice outside of cutscenes. I've hit 75 hours of game time and while I still have more to go, I have no need to be in my quarters.  However, the customizable armor that's so raved about by devs and some of the fans alike?  Sorry, but we can only have so much customization for Skyhold.  Take the outfit you're forced to see anytime at Skyhold, and enjoy the bed you'll almost never see. 

 

It's the lack of choice that bothers me.  If folks like the causal outfit, then they should be allowed to take off their armor and run around Skyhold like that.  For folks like me, just me let see the armor that I've made.  The outfit does not suit my character, it does not suit me and I'd like the choice not to see it.

[ShawkeAndAwesome69]

I don’t understand what you’re all complaining about. I find the suit very stylish and fitting both my characters, so obviously this is not a problem that needs to be addressed.

Yeah thats fine for you if you like it but we all hate it and if they would just let us wear our armor then you, and anyone else who likes the outfit, could still unequip your armor and run around with your "stylish" immersion-breaking weird beige pajamas.

[Blue_Shayde]

I don't know. There are a lot of things I dislike with the castle customization. Like...why can't I have a dalish style throne or bed? Why only drapes, banners, and windows? I want the complete set.

 

Still, its so sad and amusing to run into people who honest to goodness believe that the skyhold outfit was a bug all along.

 

I wish people would be this willing to accept the male elf broken arms thing is a bug. Nooo...instead we get yelled at and told its a design choice by other forum peeps. But when the skyhold outfit happens to be a design choice, suddenly its a bug?

[Emma89]

I don't know. There are a lot of things I dislike with the castle customization. Like...why can't I have a dalish style throne or bed? Why only drapes, banners, and windows? I want the complete set.

 

Still, its so sad and amusing to run into people who honest to goodness believe that the skyhold outfit was a bug all along.

 

I wish people would be this willing to accept the male elf broken arms thing is a bug. Nooo...instead we get yelled at and told its a design choice by other forum peeps. But when the skyhold outfit happens to be a design choice, suddenly its a bug?

Well look at the DLC horses, they were simply added to the list in their category. If there's enough demand for more customization options, I'm sure they'll add them, and it'd be a simply matter of simply adding them to the list just like horses. Obviously should be able to buy them somewhere or find them in a certain location -- no zero-time advisor missions please, make us work for our in-game options, like The Big One?, it's more fulfilling.


Back on topic. Given how the tweet in question was deleted, I'm pretty certain this was NOT a bug. I actually think it'd be a really bad thing to have armor in Skyhold. It makes more sense to have a casual outfit. However, yeah, obviously you should get more options as to how it actually looks. A cool idea I just had was to show your casual outfit in the modify armor screen, and you can get recipes for certain modifications, the material you use changes the color and texture. I don't know how feasible that'd be to actually work into the game, but it'd be the best option.

(I played entirely as a female elf so far and her arms are nothing like that in my opinion, leading me to also think the male version is bugged, part of why I chose female because I wanted to be an elf)

[Grieving Natashina]

 What?

 

It makes no sense to me to wear the casual outfit in Skyhold.  Not after what happened to get the player there.  If anything, I could have seen my PC even more likely to not be caught unarmored and unprepared.  Always prepared, always vigilant.  The Elder One isn't screwing around and neither should we.  Just give me the choice to wear my armor.  

 

That doesn't involve any recoloring or new schematics or anything like that.   I don't want anything necessarily added to the game, just the internal flag for the armor being set to On while at Skyhold. 

 

I'd rather take the low level mats that I have and I'm not going to use for anything at this point, and let me make armor just for Skyhold.  I got the schematic for the formal outfit, if nothing else.   Which was pointless, since even with good mats it doesn't do any good as armor.   Why not let us use that?  It's already been tested in various cutscenes for lighting and framing, so I don't see why not.  It would be a welcome change for those that don't like the causal outfit.

 

I've been expressing my disdain for that thing for months now.  Now, with what I know about the story, I simply despise it.  So it's not only ugly, but it makes no sense from a narrative standpoint.  Awesome.  

[Emma89]

Well take a look at your followers and advisers. In both settings, only Cullen, Cassandra, and Blackwall wear armor in either Haven or Skyhold. What do they have in common? They're all solders. More or less, with Cassandra and Cullen being Chantry solders, but still solders. Their armor is a point of pride, and it means something to them. Cole even expresses wonder at the revelation that Cullen's armor actually came off, not knowing it was possible. Everyone else all wears just clothes they prefer, not the armor you outfit them with. And it makes sense, not everything IS a solder and you shouldn't expect them to be. Forcing all players instead to wear armor would be forcing all of them to have a character trait like Cassandra and Cullen do. That's not really keeping with the spirit of choice in the franchise. On the same token, I agree that you shouldn't be forced into casual either. What if your character is the solder type, not willing to be caught off guard again? Or what if they prefer not to lug the armor around home base? Instead of forcing everyone to use what WE prefer, we should instead be given the option to choose if our characters stay in armor at Skyhold, while still allowing going around in casual, with customization options for it.

[Grieving Natashina]

Hey, I've said nothing about forcing players to wear armor.  I just want my armor visible.  If they like the causal outfit, they can just take off their armor and run around like that.  I'm the paranoid ex-Carta rogue, so I can't see her out of armor unless she was going to sleep.  

 

I want the choice, is all.  I certainly don't want to take away that choice from others.

[Mes]

Hey, I've said nothing about forcing players to wear armor.  I just want my armor visible.  If they like the causal outfit, they can just take off their armor and run around like that.  I'm the paranoid ex-Carta rogue, so I can't see her out of armor unless she was going to sleep.  

 

I want the choice, is all.  I certainly don't want to take away that choice from others.

 

I agree with you 100%. 

 

It's odd that this is even... a thing, in the third installment of the Dragon Age series. Not sure what went wrong here in the development process. At least my female Inquisitor looks passable. My male inquisitor looks downright ridiculous. 

[hwlrmnky]

Hey, I've said nothing about forcing players to wear armor.  I just want my armor visible.  If they like the causal outfit, they can just take off their armor and run around like that.  I'm the paranoid ex-Carta rogue, so I can't see her out of armor unless she was going to sleep.  
 
I want the choice, is all.  I certainly don't want to take away that choice from others.

I have no gripe with the current outfit but it does seem counter-intuitive to not offer a Skyhold apparel customization option when we have so much choice in decor.

And now that I think about it, I wonder why I'm walking around the house completely unarmed...

[torq_za]

It's particular jarring when you're passing judgment on a fully-plate-mail-head-to-toe armoured NPC. The prisoner is in chains, on his knees, begging for his life... but is obviously the most heavily armoured person in the entire hall. Josephine has only her iWick candlepad to protect her, and all I have is my elaborate PJs; the prisoner only needs to fall over on to us, to kill us.

 

Suggested dialogue: "Oy, you there... guard. Why is this prisoner in his full set of armour. Has anyone even searched him for weapons? Strip him of his armour, search him for weapons, and then return him before me. I will look upon this pathetic wretch, lay down My Law and pass My Judgement. Much obliged. In fact, go up to my chambers, get a set of my form fitting PJs for the prisoner to wear. That's the shame this man should bear." 

 

Oooh the burn. hehe

[DaemionMoadrin]

It's particular jarring when you're passing judgment on a fully-plate-mail-head-to-toe armoured NPC. The prisoner is in chains, on his knees, begging for his life... but is obviously the most heavily armoured person in the entire hall. Josephine has only her iWick candlepad to protect her, and all I have is my elaborate PJs; the prisoner only needs to fall over on to us, to kill us.

 

Suggested dialogue: "Oy, you there... guard. Why is this prisoner in his full set of armour. Has anyone even searched him for weapons? Strip him of his armour, search him for weapons, and then return him before me. I will look upon this pathetic wretch, lay down My Law and pass My Judgement. Much obliged. In fact, go up to my chambers, get a set of my form fitting PJs for the prisoner to wear. That's the shame this man should bear." 

 

Oooh the burn. hehe

 

Yes, they didn't change the character model for the judgment. Alexius was still carrying a dagger while in chains...

[Slapstick83]

Found in the diary of an old blight veteran:

 

"in peace, vigilance"

 

Where's your vigilance?! You might have peace behind these walls, but by the Maker... Slouching on the throne in pajamas, eating roasted pig and sleeping in a comfy bed; not even changing out of your goddam uggs before going to the war-council. Fraternizing with the blasted diplomat. Kids these days. It's not like it was back in my days when we had to walk ten miles through the dark roads fighting darkspawn by ourselves with nothing more than we could carry. No scouts, no one to tell you where to go and what to kill; or armies to fight for you and let you play the role of a "hero". Oh, how I would've loved to take you back to that time and let you see a proper darkspawn horde bearing down on you. Would've made you ****** your goddam pajamas it would.

[Grieving Natashina]

Found in the diary of an old blight veteran:

 

"in peace, vigilance"

 

Where's your vigilance?! You might have peace behind these walls, but by the Maker... Slouching on the throne in pajamas, eating roasted pig and sleeping in a comfy bed; not even changing out of your goddam uggs before going to the war-council. Fraternizing with the blasted diplomat. Kids these days. It's not like it was back in my days when we had to walk ten miles through the dark roads fighting darkspawn by ourselves with nothing more than we could carry. No scouts, no one to tell you where to go and what to kill; or armies to fight for you and let you play the role of a "hero". Oh, how I would've loved to take you back to that time and let you see a proper darkspawn horde bearing down on you. Would've made you ****** your goddam pajamas it would.

You sir, win the thread.

[Grieving Natashina]

I'd like an option where I can walk around with.... no breeches.

That was a bug in development, actually.  Cole's pants kept running along side him.  Drove John Epler (the lead cinematic director) batty according to the tweets.

 

I've seen it in game too, with one of the Inquisition guards at a camp.  Their pants were just walking separate from their body while I was talking to Harding.  I don't remember what zone it was though.  

[DaemionMoadrin]

I hope people are aware that the pajamas are -not- an actual outfit. They are your underwear. This is what you look like without wearing any armor. If this was DA:O, you'd be in skimpy panties and bra while judging people. That could be the bug part BioWare mentioned.

 

So my wishes now are: Change the underwear please. Make it more sexy. ^^ And then give us actual outfits we can wear on top.

[Gill Kaiser]

They never said it was a bug, they said it was an issue. All bugs are issues, but not all issues are bugs.

[MissMayhem96]

The tailcoat issue isn't a good excuse. The tailcoats move with the legs when you run. Either they have physics or they have bones for animation. Where they physic'd it should be a non-issue. If animated and they clip through the body up towards the front when you're sitting down, it means its a poor animation job. People who design the armor weighted the vertices to the pelvis bones. All in all, its a shoddy way to do it, and something you'd see in 3-4-5 year old games.

I'd wager we have the old consoles to thank for this issue and the rest of the shoddy animations in this game.

 

All in all, this f*up really hinders my enjoyment of the game. You just look so f*ing foolish. 

I don't care if you're playing an elf, a qunari, a dwarf or a human, male or female, NONE of them look good. NONE of them look any less ridicule. 

When the camera views the character from the sides, your inquisitor is showing skin in the bottom slits of his shirt. His pants don't even go a proper height. This is what you expect from night wear, not from a fancy outfit.

We're the leader of the Inquisition. We shouldn't be wearing CASUAL outfits. If we're not going to wear armor because of some bogus technical issue, we should bloody well be wearing something worthy of our station.

 

There is 0 excuse for this.

I wondered if I had actually just saw some skin on the sides of my Male elf while he was judging someone. The outfit being beige and all.

 

It looks like a sloppy outfit, pajamas. It's just not authoritative enough for the Inquisitor.

 

It would be nice to get some casual clothes, I would say it would be good for a DLC. but.. having to possibly pay for something that looks better than what it actually was in the game is kinda ridiculous. At least the option to wear armor in Skyhold would be nice.

[Decepticon Leader Sully]

#SKYHOLDNUDISTCAMP. 

only solution.

[AMEDooley15]

My only problem with the casual outfit, and the armor too for that matter, is that they don't take into account the race of the Inquisitor. If my Dalish Elf doesn't wear boots in armor, why is she wearing boots in Skyhold. They should have made the the armors fit the race that your playing. I get that the casual outfit is just the base layer of your armor, like it would be in real life. And that's fine for me, but make the armors reflect the racial choice. Makes sense.