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Okay, I haven't played Inquisition yet, and although I'm trying to avoid huge spoilers, my curiosity about the romances has gotten the better of me. I take my role-playing seriously, which means I also take my romances seriously, and I kind of want to know what I'm getting myself into so that I don't make a "mistake" in an 80-hour playthrough.

 

I'm a straight male, so Cassandra and Josephine are my only viable choices. I suspect that I will choose Josephine, but there seems to be some controversy surrounding her lack of a compelling romance scene. And I have to be honest, that bothers me, especially because Cassandra doesn't really interest me. Granted, I don't really know what I'm talking about because, as I've already stated, I haven't played Inquisition yet. 

 

Based on my very limited knowledge, Cassandra seems too "religious" to me. I'm an atheist in real life, and my Warden and Hawke don't believe in the Maker as a supreme god. My Inquisitor will also share this belief. Cassandra, therefore, probably won't like me very much, and I'll likely have issues with her. I don't know anything about Josephine other than people calling her a Disney princess or something. And as shallow as it may seem, I place a lot of value on the romance scenes, even the awkward ones in Origins; I appreciate the attempt, despite the questionable result. If Josephine is lacking in this department, that is truly unfortunate. 

 

So BSN, I want to know your thoughts on these two romances. Without spoiling too many things, can you give me a basic idea about their personalities and the overall quality of their romances?


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well, I had been role-playing as Anders (from awakenings) and you can guess that my options were every thing in thedas that has 2 boobs and 2 feet (just 2 please, no broodmothers).

Herding has many flirting options avaible so i aimed at her as soon as posible, keep doing it because not doing it would be metaplaying, also tried to woo with Sera but she got furious (and i, as an hetero, understand that fury).

After flirting with both Cassandra and Josephine (Vivienne keeps sending Anders to frenemy zone idk why) the winner was Josephine, Cassandra was... well Anders could understand the issue that Cass had with mages but with his only family and comrades wardens, despiting them to favor miss useless Hawke was a move that Anders could not bypass.

Still I continue using the flirting option for Cass

Spoiler
, but the one that had round up the cassanova was Josephine, not by her looks (even if those really helps, even my sister tought that Cass looked too much like me, and that's not good for a girl) but because of her sweetness and maybe her huge ploping foot.



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Okay, I haven't played Inquisition yet, and although I'm trying to avoid huge spoilers, my curiosity about the romances has gotten the better of me. I take my role-playing seriously, which means I also take my romances seriously, and I kind of want to know what I'm getting myself into so that I don't make a "mistake" in an 80-hour playthrough.

 

I'm a straight male, so Cassandra and Josephine are my only viable choices. I suspect that I will choose Josephine, but there seems to be some controversy surrounding her lack of a compelling romance scene. And I have to be honest, that bothers me, especially because Cassandra doesn't really interest me. Granted, I don't really know what I'm talking about because, as I've already stated, I haven't played Inquisition yet. 

 

Based on my very limited knowledge, Cassandra seems too "religious" to me. I'm an atheist in real life, and my Warden and Hawke don't believe in the Maker as a supreme god. My Inquisitor will also share this belief. Cassandra, therefore, probably won't like me very much, and I'll likely have issues with her. I don't know anything about Josephine other than people calling her a Disney princess or something. And as shallow as it may seem, I place a lot of value on the romance scenes, even the awkward ones in Origins; I appreciate the attempt, despite the questionable result. If Josephine is lacking in this department, that is truly unfortunate. 

 

So BSN, I want to know your thoughts on these two romances. Without spoiling too many things, can you give me a basic idea about their personalities and the overall quality of their romances?

 

If they mean lack of a romance scene in the sense that there is no point in the game where you sleep with her, then they are correct. I romanced Josephine and I didn't regret it. I thought how they handled her was tasteful. I didn't need to see them sleep together to get the feeling that they actually loved each other. Something that did impress me with the Josephine romance plot is that Antivan politics eventually cause a problem in the relationship, and how you choose to handle it is pretty comical. Just give it a try man.

 

As for some of it seeming like a Disney princess, I can see where they are coming from, but why is that a problem? The problem with Disney romances is almost ALL of them are written like that. In DA:O, neither Leliana or Morrigan were like that. The same goes for Merrill and Isabella. Some real-life courtings are exactly as sappy as a Disney storyline. Doesn't bother me at all that BioWare has one romance like that.


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well, I had been role-playing as Anders (from awakenings) and you can guess that my options were every thing in thedas that has 2 boobs and 2 feet (just 2 please, no broodmothers).

Herding has many flirting options avaible so i aimed at her as soon as posible, keep doing it because not doing it would be metaplaying, also tried to woo with Sera but she got furious (and i, as an hetero, understand that fury).

After flirting with both Cassandra and Josephine (Vivienne keeps sending Anders to frenemy zone idk why) the winner was Josephine, Cassandra was... well Anders could understand the issue that Cass had with mages but with his only family and comrades wardens, despiting them to favor miss useless Hawke was a move that Anders could not bypass.

Still I continue using the flirting option for Cass

Spoiler
, but the one that had round up the cassanova was Josephine, not by her looks (even if those really helps, even my sister tought that Cass looked too much like me, and that's not good for a girl) but because of her sweetness and maybe her huge ploping foot.

How do you get around the fact that characters in-game clearly refer to Anders' as a separate character from the Inquisitor?

 

EDIT:

I liked Cassandra's character and I thought there were tons of funny (and occasionally very sweet) moments with the flirt dialogue and the way she resists you right up until you romance her. Then there's really not much more to say and every time you start a conversation with her she just says "it's wonderful to see you again, my love" which some people might like but it felt too different from her character, plus the line delivery is quite wooden every time she refers to you as "my love". It just sounds so... insincere, even though that was clearly not the intention.



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One has a sex scene the other doesn't.
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I only did Cassandras, and found it to be great. It was really well done. Going to be doing Josephine next. There isn't anything wrong with Josephines romance. Some people were expecting full nudity with hers, but there isn't. Doesn't mean its lacking in any way. The romances in this game seem to be more about relationships rather than companion mission -----> sex scene before the end of the game. The way they handled it is very natural in comparison with previous games. From what I've seen Josephines romance is just as good as Cassandras. 


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well, I had been role-playing as Anders (from awakenings) and you can guess that my options were every thing in thedas that has 2 boobs and 2 feet (just 2 please, no broodmothers).

Herding has many flirting options avaible so i aimed at her as soon as posible, keep doing it because not doing it would be metaplaying, also tried to woo with Sera but she got furious (and i, as an hetero, understand that fury).

After flirting with both Cassandra and Josephine (Vivienne keeps sending Anders to frenemy zone idk why) the winner was Josephine, Cassandra was... well Anders could understand the issue that Cass had with mages but with his only family and comrades wardens, despiting them to favor miss useless Hawke was a move that Anders could not bypass.

Still I continue using the flirting option for Cass

Spoiler
, but the one that had round up the cassanova was Josephine, not by her looks (even if those really helps, even my sister tought that Cass looked too much like me, and that's not good for a girl) but because of her sweetness and maybe her huge ploping foot.

why?



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I'd go with Cass. I love all of her non-romance scenes so far since I play as a female Quizzy . I don't like the maker stuff she brings into bed if you romance her tho lol. But it's just one line, isn't it ?



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I'd go with Cass. I love all of her non-romance scenes so far since I play as a female Quizzy . I don't like the maker stuff she brings into bed if you romance her tho lol. But it's just one line, isn't it ?

Not only that but she brings up another man she used to bang.



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^ hey, she comes clean with you....at the worst time.



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My Quizzi romanced Cassandra and doesn't believe in the Maker.
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Not only that but she brings up another man she used to bang.


Am I really the only person who doesn't much mind that she talks about this? There's a reason she mentions Galyen, and she doesn't bring him up just to talk about him. She mentions him because he died a horrible death, and Cassandra is determined to keep the Inquisitor being taken from her like Galyen was.
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Before i got the game i thought i would go for Josephine because like you my only options are Cassandra and her , she looked the hottest so of course i'd go for her right? wrong , Cassandra's got the type of beauty i cannot explain , she just pulls you in with her personality , i romanced her in my first playthrough , started a second playthrough guess what ? im romancing her again lol i'll watch Josie's romance on youtube if i get curious.


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Am I really the only person who doesn't much mind that she talks about this? There's a reason she mentions Galyen, and she doesn't bring him up just to talk about him. She mentions him because he died a horrible death, and Cassandra is determined to keep the Inquisitor being taken from her like Galyen was.

I didn't "mind". I certainly don't think the fact that she wasn't a total virgin before the Inquisitor makes the romance less legitimate or anything but I did think it was a bit weird that she brought it up almost immediately post-sex. 
 



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Josephine. Cuddly nuddly puddly.



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Josephine's amazingly sexy command of the letter 'R' won me over
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I didn't "mind". I certainly don't think the fact that she wasn't a total virgin before the Inquisitor makes the romance less legitimate or anything but I did think it was a bit weird that she brought it up almost immediately post-sex.


I certainly don't, because again, she has a very good reason to say what she does. It's probably the single most character-defining moment in her romance arc.

Well, other than her love for Varric's book.
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Cass by a mile. I find Cassandra to be one of the most endearing of the group.



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Before i got the game i thought i would go for Josephine because like you my only options are Cassandra and her , she looked the hottest so of course i'd go for her right? wrong , Cassandra's got the type of beauty i cannot explain , she just pulls you in with her personality , i romanced her in my first playthrough , started a second playthrough guess what ? im romancing her again lol i'll watch Josie's romance on youtube if i get curious.

 

Story of my first two playthroughs. I'm forcing myself to do the Josephine one this third run so I can at least experience it once. But Cassandras character really draws you in, wonderfully written. 



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Not only that but she brings up another man she used to bang.

 

Depending how much your banter is bugged, the Inquisitor might actually be aware of it. Her and Galyan having something in the past show up in banter to at least with Cole and Varric. 

 

And the pillow talk reference is way more about "I'm not going to lose you too" than "yeah, your not the first".


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Hey guys i have question.Can i have romance with Cassandra as male dwarf?

 

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Hey guys i have question.Can i have romance with Cassandra as male dwarf?

 

 

Yes.

 

For OP: I prefer Cass, though I love Josie to pieces and eventually plan on romancing her as well.


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I like Cassandra more as a character, but I prefer Josephine's romance.



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One other reason to do Josie is that Cassandra's romance can end up semi-compromised at the end depending on your choices (Think Alistair becoming king and how that could potentially mess things up with a female Warden). There are ways through it, but some people don't like that sort of drama.

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There is a reason why she's called the Disney Princess of DA, I wasn't into Josie at all. I'll go for Cassandra this time, should be more to my liking.


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