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[spacetimeflux]

yeah I am not sure if it does. Could not find a reference in the coalesced.ini file. The configuration in the game launcher does not talk about it...

[liv76]

when is the patch to fix this problem coming out???? Im so frustrated with this stupid game right now! i just want to play it but cant if it plays like this!!

[VKX_XYZ]

I had some luck with playing around with my mouse driver settings. I tweaked accelerations and sensitivies and bumped up the refresh rate of the mouse to 1kHz. Everything improved quite a bit throughout the game and the circuit hacking game improved a bit as well (though far from perfect). Also, getting the circuit hack upgrade in game helped alot as well. I'm able to complete 90% of the hacks now (just the ones where they are on opposite sides of the screen from one another get me).



As for the door/selectable problem, it still persists. Restarting the computer and allowing the mouse to boot up after everything else was loaded helped for a while. For a bit, everything was targeting correctly, but over time (and loadings) things stopped targeting all together and I was forced to restart the game, which in turn allowed some things to be targeted (though at weird angles like looking at the ceiling or floor).



I sent a bug report several days ago, so hopefully BW at least knows about this. It needs to get fixed soon.

[Iron Spine]

Genome256 wrote...

They never fixed it with Mass Effect. I don't think they're going to bother fixing this issue with Mass Effect 2 either.

I can't stand playing FPS with mouse accel on. Looks like I'm going to stay away from this game then.

This game is waaaay to good for you to blindly pass on it because the default mouse handling may or may not be perfect for you. A number of us in the community have been working on ways to resolve / make-easier the act of editing any number of factors allowing you to tweak it until it -is- perfect for you.

Try social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/106/index/834703 or manually edit the Coalesced file and use a dedicated rebuilder for it. Either way it is 1000% easier today than it was 4 days ago to change a lot of settings in a very short amount of time and be back in the game, either fine-tuning your changes, or being satisfied with them and just playing on....

[Corvin666]

Genome256 wrote...

They never fixed it with Mass Effect. I don't think they're going to bother fixing this issue with Mass Effect 2 either.

I can't stand playing FPS with mouse accel on. Looks like I'm going to stay away from this game then.

Actually I wrote how to turn off mouse accel a few posts back (http://social.biowar...761152/3#869974). If only you read that <_<

[Iron Spine]

Don't hold him too accountable for missing it Corvin... it's not like we have a ... hmm what's that thing called that most humans on the planet would expect a forum board to have? The function name escapes me... 

[liv76]

seriously i need to find another way to bypass these hack on the doors cause its effecting my missions now!! i cant get any farther now cause the doors all have the hacks on them and i cant pass them!!!is there not some kind of hack for the hack?? and yes i tried everything to change my settings... its those stupid hack dots things that are so hard to pass cause my mouse goes all retarded on me then and only then!! please help!! i just want to play this game!!

[neems]

This is strange, I wonder if it's hardware specific? I haven't noticed any problems with mouse acceleration at all, and I normally can't stand it (it was immediately noticeable in Borderlands, which was effectively unplayable for me until I rejigged the config file).



I'm using XP and a very basic mouse, if it matters (I can't use these high dpi gaming mice you get these days). I suspect I have camera sensitivity set to low as well.



I wonder if I maybe just expect less from a 3rd person shooter?

[Iron Spine]

neems wrote...
...I wonder if I maybe just expect less from a 3rd person shooter?

Well that's always been the case in a huge way unfortunately, however things are getting better over the past few years IMO anyway. They just really want us staring at the back of the characters head so badly so we can see all the work they did on the models and animations I suppose. Granted a benefit of the view is a far wider FOV, but that grates against those of us who don't want that advantage and just want to sink into it from an FPS perspective for more realism and a tougher play. In FPS a shot zips in what do you do? Take cover and start trying to figure out where the hell it came from. But in 3rd you already know... ruins part of the intensity but I digress blah blah. 

Anyway, a game that has modifiable settings into the extreme minutiae (like ME2 does) helps a-LOT to allow folks with these problems (or modding or any other purpose) to personally take charge and modify any number of things to suit them better.

I give Bio a GIGANTIC thumbs-up for providing an editable (with community tools) settings file (Coalesced.ini)  exposing a truly massive amount of settings that control damn near every imaginable aspect of the game from a settings perspective. Just have to find the ones related to the goals at hand. The mouse can be tweaked easily in this way, and in conjunction with turning off vsync and smoothframerate, getting that quick-twitch FPS feeling is perfectly obtainable using the editor or just manually editing the file and reuilding it.

As far as the fella having hack-game problems I have little doubt there are settings in there that explicitly control that, which when found would be tweakable like everything else until it fixes the problem for him. Those settings just need to be identified, changed, tested for results.

Edit: Speaking FPS perspective it's probably possible to change that too with camera tweaks when the necessary group of settings for those is identified too.

Modifié par Iron Spine, 03 février 2010 - 01:17 .

[Iron Spine]

Genome256 wrote...

... Did I somehow offend you by saying I don't want to play ME2 due to inbuilt mouse accel?

Negative. Perhaps you misread my intent. It was actually in the direction of Bio, not you, because the fact they don't provide a search functioin that is obvious when navigating the actual forum.

And to clarify further, your points were'nt in dispute. What I was trying to convey is the fact the game is good enough to -look past its failings in this regard- because they can be addressed, in this case by the community. Once you get past them, there is a good game to be had. There are plenty of folks that are now able to play the game with sensitivity and other settings they've customized to suit their style and are no longer posting but are playing.

Perhaps Bio will do something about these things in an upcoming patch, whenever that is, but for those that already own it and couldn't play it properly due to some of these reasons that can now be fixed by the users themselves, I'd call that progress. It was just from the community and not Bio.

[Withidread]

Weird.... I'd noticed some occasional oddities with the mouse speed as well, but didn't pay much attention. The mouse I'm using lets me change dpi on the fly (REALLY helpful when scanning btw) so I just made a few tweaks in that area.

[Mono_pol]

eh I wish i had read this topic before I reinstalled the game Anyway thx for the tips.

[apoc_reg]

force v-sync off?! no thanks! Cant play games with tearing, its the biggest atmos killer ever!

[pyide]

apoc_reg wrote...

force v-sync off?! no thanks! Cant play games with tearing, its the biggest atmos killer ever!

Same here man.

Modifié par pyide, 09 février 2010 - 06:23 .

[zBobG]

Here's my observation about the mouse:

bEnableMouseSmoothing=true
When set to false mouse movement left/right is very jerky and somewhat too sensitive, when set to true mouse movement is smoothed but is still fast especially when used with dampening set to off.

bUseMouseDampening=false
When set to true mouse acceleration seems to be turned off - or damped, when set to false the (Windows) mouse driver acceleration seems to remain in effect. This is mostly seen when turning, set to off allows very fast turning and some users might find that unusable. Set to off allows mouse acceleration in the mini-game, although there seems to be some built-in dampening in the mini-games.

I use:
MouseSensitivity=1.0
bEnableMouseSmoothing=true
bUseMouseDampening=false

This is for a Logitech MX518 at the 800 DPI setting with the (Windows) mouse acceleration set to low and with vSync set on (at 60FPS). It is effective to use the on-the-fly mouse acceleration buttons to increase to 1200 DPI or 1600 DPI but since this mouse is very usable at 800 DPI the mouse is actually harder to use when set faster.

Modifié par zBobG, 04 février 2010 - 07:40 .

[Iron Spine]

zBobG wrote...

Here's my observation about the mouse: ...

zBobG if no objections I think I will include your findings in the default Coalesced Editor Quick Jumps for these 2 under Mouse Tweaking.

[pyide]

zBobG wrote...

I use:
MouseSensitivity=1.0
bEnableMouseSmoothing=true
bUseMouseDampening=false

Do you not have any problems choosing dialogue responses when dampening is turned off? The mouse input there becomes incredibly jerky and hard to use unless for me unless I up the AccumulationDivisor setting from 100.0f to 500.0f or more.

That config I uploaded a week ago has default settings for everything except the 4 mouse related variables.
MouseSensitivity=0.12
bEnableMouseSmoothing=False
bUseMouseDampening =False
AccumulationDivisor=600.0f

Works great for me in everything with windows accel turned off too and a 1600dpi mouse, obviously people should tweak the sensitivity and other values to their liking but this is pretty much perfect for me. 1.0 is so high it's unweildy, had to add finer control with another digit after the decimal just to be able to tweak it to a normal speed.

[Micon2]

This has become a major stopper for me, i have almoast got my last recruit (the krogan) and I have only succeeded in any of the mini game angst creating Timed annoyances twice and that eas like after 20 tries so I just pkayed on and ignored them but apart from affecting my credit balance and I do not know what else, having to get thru the this door, has brought me to a halt,

I need this explained I have looked all over, not real comfortable editting a game file, but I have however this is different.

How do you do this ie open the file and set those parameters as suggested by pyide?



My mouse will not respond qick enough for me to make the connection in time. I can get 2, sometimes 3 but usually or should I say unusual to get two!

There is a trainer I have noted, will it work or conflict with extra content?

[pyide]

I'm not sure what controls the speed of the mouse for the 2D stuff like HUD and the bypass minigame. It might be dependent on your windows mouse sensitivity and mouse DPI settings and drivers, or perhaps all of those things plus the game's settings.

Modifié par pyide, 09 février 2010 - 06:24 .

[Micon2]

Thank I am going to try this. Anything can be better than the frustrated hours I have spent trying to do one of these puzzles.

[Micon2]

Partial success, I would still like to increase the time allocated before failure. I made it with 5 attempts to open the door thst hst stopped me advancing and my mouse did behave better but but it still does not feel like an extension to my hand eye co-ord so I guess I am going to have to edit some trick numbers.

Wish I could miss this step or puzzles lunacy completely.

[Iron Spine]

apoc_reg wrote...

force v-sync off?! no thanks! Cant play games with tearing, its the biggest atmos killer ever!

If you have low latency ram the games SmoothFrameRate set at 75 / 85 or 100 does an admirable job of reducing the shreds actually. They appear to have implemented that pretty well. I despise tearing too, for that exact reason you state. Hard to sink into it when you're brain constantly complains about seeing that crap rip across the screen.

[SamandSteph]

I`m stuck on a planet now because I can`t bypass a door with the mouse the way it is (been trying for about an hour now) and I can`t get back to the Normandy either. I don`t want to restart and then accidentally get stuck on a planet again.



Very disappointed, I was so looking forward to this game, now I can`t play it. Could have used that $70 on much more important things than a coaster with a pretty box.