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I started this thread after 15 hours in the game. Bored out of my wits I did several characters after that first  attempt of game play, for a change for something interesting but could not go to Hinterlands for the gawd awful grinding.

I mean the endless repetitive combat which keeps coming back again and again and again and again and so forth. Kill the monsters/baddies and they just keep respawning again and again and again and.. right into your face. ok, you get my point.

No to mention the pc controls being utterly bad. I´ve spanked my mouse so hard that animal protection officers called. And where the heck is auto attack? It feels like my pc version is just a bad console copy. The rpg elements are gone from the character leveling. Just slapping some skills and trying to upgrage items. So I pick flowers and collect rocks to my miniature backpack while I kill stuff.  

 

This is the first time I have actually become bored of Dragon Age game in my first playthough. I don´t know if it is the obvious Skyrim rip off or something else (didn´t finish Skyrim either) or what but the game feels soo booooring. I have no connection to the story nor the characters. I just run around killing everything and listen the occasional party banter, which I can´t even participate. Nice.

 

Maybe I am too much of a story driven player. I don´t know. I do enjoy certain amount of freedom but to achieve enough levels to advance in the game is just way too boring. I can´t play the game another time with the awful grinding.

 

Anyone else have similar feelings or am I alone in this?


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Nope, I'm there with you. I'm feeling pretty alienated by this game. It's like they took every design decision possible to deter me. I loathe the k&m controls so much I caved and got a controller, which made it a little better, but the combat is still tedious and I find it really hard to actually get my party to do what I want them to. I'm persevering to the end, but I'm finding it a pretty miserable and disappointing experience.
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I don't particularly disagree with any of your points, but claiming land for the inquisition, and completing enemy-based side quests empties out the zone of almost everything but the wild animals. My Hinterlands is pretty Combat barren now, so long as I don't get too close to a bear.
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Hm, well into the game for about 50 hours

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But hey, my pc is from 2011, at that time a highend game-pc and it's doing great. No crashes or whatever the like, just some long loading screen, that's all. And there's the tactical camera that needs some tweaking (rather more than some ;-) ). And some AI, either friend or foe might have some work done on them too. 

But i am pretty satisfied ...... just waiting for some updates and patches. B)


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I started this thread after 15 hours in the game. Bored out of my wits I did several characters after that first  attempt of game play, for a change for something interesting but could not go to Hinterlands for the gawd awful grinding.

 

 

 My Hinterlands is pretty Combat barren now, so long as I don't get too close to a bear.

 

 

 

Please read this PSA before continuing with thread discussion. The Hinterlands are misleading. 

 

 

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OK, so I'm reading a lot of feedback about the game on different sites and I'm noticing a big trend. A lot of of the people complaining about the game are saying things like "boring sidequests," "really slow," "can't get into the story/characters." And that is almost always accompanied by "I'm trying to do everything in the Hinterlands before moving on."

 

Normally I wouldn't tell anybody else how to play the game. And I definitely recognize the OCD-ness, must complete everything, don't want to miss anything impulses.

 

But seriously. LEAVE. THE F*CKING. HINTERLANDS.

 

The Hinterlands is meant as a starting area. Honestly, it has the most boring quests in the game and is probably the most boring area. You're a f*cking Inquisitor, you shouldn't be too overly concerned with a farmer's missing druffalo.

Do some stuff, gain some power, then go to the war table and use that power to unlock the next stuff.

 

"But wait! I'm going to miss stuff if I advance the story." No, you won't. All of the areas remain unlocked and you can go back and do everything. Even after you finish the main story.

 

Actually, you are going to miss stuff if you STAY in the Hinterlands. In the sense that you are going to level up killing low-level bandits and then be overleveled for the story content and areas that are actually cool.

 

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@Master Levy, I know all that heh. I pop back every now and again to close a rift, lock-pick a door I couldnt open, or re-attempt the Dragon... It's how I noticed Witchwood emptied, and the merc compound.

But yes, Op, take note.

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We´ll see. I have yet to venture to new areas that is true. I was under the impression that you need to level up before advancing though. So far I am not impressed of the game. Graphics look good, the swamp and carta tunnels especially.

Good thing my pc is top notch too. No crashes or anything thank the Old Gods. 



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I mean the endless repetitive combat which keeps coming back again and again and again and again and so forth. Kill the monsters/baddies and they just keep respawning again and again and again and.. right into your face. ok, you get my point.

No to mention the pc controls being utterly bad. I´ve spanked my mouse so hard that animal protection officers called. And where the heck is auto attack? It feels like my pc version is just a bad console copy. The rpg elements are gone from the character leveling. Just slapping some skills and trying to upgrage items.

 

Agreed, and this is even if I do leave Hinterlands. IMO we need slower respawning, better PC controls, option for auto-attack, and some of the customizable rpg elements from Origins and DA2 back.


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I like Skyrim but not to the extent of expecting every AAA to be just like Skyrim. Unfortunately Skyrim sold lots of copies. Like, a lot. So here you go.
We likely will have more and more open world exploration action RPGs before someone comes up with something that sells even better. Until then, let's grab some ores.
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Totally agree, OP. I feel the same. Only on top of this, I get NO BANTER and NO MUSIC when wandering this booooring, lifeless Thedas. And the mandatory grinding is beginning to make me HATE this game.



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Yep, and I also found the world largest dwarf. Apparently such things exist. And giant size avvars too. Funny how lore doesn´t mention of such peculiarities.



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Agreed, and this is even if I do leave Hinterlands. IMO we need slower respawning, better PC controls, option for auto-attack, and some of the customizable rpg elements from Origins and DA2 back.



Respawning needs to be slower and whatever controls how many critters spawn needs to be turned way down. I am constantly bogging down in fights versus whatever the hostile critters of a a zone are. Mean going from the nearest camp to forest villa in Hinterlands I ran into 6 bears. Can't even count how many vargasts and Phoenix I've slaughtered in the Westeen Approaches.
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We´ll see. I have yet to venture to new areas that is true. I was under the impression that you need to level up before advancing though. So far I am not impressed of the game. Graphics look good, the swamp and carta tunnels especially.

Good thing my pc is top notch too. No crashes or anything thank the Old Gods. 

 

Just try to go to, say, four or five different areas and throw in a main quest. Then see how you feel. :)



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Truthfully I was wildly disappointed in the game when I had just played Storm Coast and Hinterlands. Those areas are terrible for interesting things to do other than grinding. Get to the story quest as the areas that open up after that have a lot more meat on their bones.

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There isn't much grinding if you just do quests. Farming is more tedious than grinding... However, if you "grind" quests for the sake of gaining XP, then I understand why it's so tedious. I don't grind monsters for XP.



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Respawn is definitely a pure evil. I always avoided games with respawn. It kills the spirit of exploration and feels like something artificial. Also it steals from you the precious feeling of being secure, and brings all your efforts to secure a path to an obvious zero. It kills the spirit of competionism as well. At least, make respawn less frequent if you cannot remove it at all. This won't make the world empty as we hardly travel the same roads twice anyway.



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I've never had these respawn issues. Maybe because I usually just finish the quests that make the enemies disappear altogether so they don't bother me at all anymore.

But yes. Leave the Hinterlands. Move on. Come back later.

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yeah you only have to do the right things and the respawn except of wildlife will completely stop. maybe some should play more the game and cry less in the forums



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More grinding? I´ve even bored myself out of doing the quests. Besides, how are you going to close those rifts if not with grinding? Demons guarding them are too powerful to beat without any leveling.

 

Now I realised the game is a spitting image of the star wars mmo which was available for free some time ago. It had exactly the same kind of grinding and occasional and far apart discussion clips. Didn´t play that one past the first quest.



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Heh at higher levels its funny to be ambushed by Giants, bears and other things



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Actually yeah, there were times when I found myself becoming extremely bored by DA:I... there just isn't enough substance to this huge world.  A lot of running, picking up metal, and finding alchemy supplies, and that's the majority of the game play.  I think this game would have been a lot more fun for me if the areas were smaller... I remember reaching the Exalted Plains and just thinking something like, "my God I don't want to explore this place..."  Of course, by that point in the game I'd stopped earning exp from enemies, which had a lot to do with it.  It was boring before that, but once I stopped earning exp I wanted to finish the game... unfortunately that was a few days ago and I'm still not done!  :(

 

Let me just add that I thought the game was decent but there is probably no way that I'm going to play this again.  It's just not interesting enough to be this long.


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i talk about respawn and not grinding. yeah to level up in a rpg, total new to the genre. for the story its not so much grinding, finishing the hinterlands will at least outlevel you for the first two after the prologue and power is not a big deal, you dont have to collect shards, you dont have to close rifts for advancement in story. but damned in the story there are "boring" fights too (maybe raise difficulty to not be boring)



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Agreed.. soo much elfroot to gather



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I agree.  I was trying to replay and can't do it.  No matter what class or race its the SAME THING.  Unlike DAO with unique beginnings.  Then I thought the dragonagekeep would really change things but that doesn't change hardly anything either and most of those questions in dragonagekeep aren't used in the game anyway.  

 

The grinding, requisitions, power, etc, are all just points and hardly any used or make a difference in the game.  


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I got tired of the grinding. Also ran out of places. So for the battle at Haven, switched to Casual, and the combat got much more bearable. I wasn't wasting anymore time grinding for a battle so early in the game.