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#76
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Or just give the Warden two voices to choice from like the Inquisitor.  I'll lol if Mark Meer/Jennifer Hale voice one of those 2.  "I'm the Warden Commander, and this is my favorite store in Thedas."

The more voice option and with very good voice actors is not a good suggestion. The reason is because it costs money quite a lot of money if we want the warden to be in the game its best if we suggest things that cost very little or even better their free.



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Pretty sure the Warden is dead, even if he is alive in your world. They way Morrigan talks about him it is pretty clear that he is actually doing his Calling, and with how she talks about what Kieran would do if she died that the Warden is not surviving what he's doing. She is likely just being a realist but I also just dont see Bioware touching the Warden with a 20ft pole.



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Pretty sure the Warden is dead, even if he is alive in your world. They way Morrigan talks about him it is pretty clear that he is actually doing his Calling, and with how she talks about what Kieran would do if she died that the Warden is not surviving what he's doing. She is likely just being a realist but I also just dont see Bioware touching the Warden with a 20ft pole.

Did you actually listen to Morrigan?  The Warden is somewhere far west looking for a cure for the Calling so that he and Morrigan can lives together, or with their son, without worrying about the Calling. Leliana and Alistair also said the same thing. Besides, the Warden has about 20 years, give or take, left until his/her Calling. 


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Pretty sure the Warden is dead, even if he is alive in your world. They way Morrigan talks about him it is pretty clear that he is actually doing his Calling, and with how she talks about what Kieran would do if she died that the Warden is not surviving what he's doing. She is likely just being a realist but I also just dont see Bioware touching the Warden with a 20ft pole.

Morrigan didn't talk much about my Warden, but Leliana sure did and was very hopeful about reuniting when all was said and done. Happily ever after and all that. :)

There are a ton of possible "world states" for the Warden, and it would certainly be a tricky task for BW to undertake to say the least. There would certainly be cries of unhappiness from all corners of the internet, but that's a given since...well, since it's a BioWare game. I think it's ultimately do-able, though, and something most fans want. DLC taking everyone to Weisshaupt to investigate...if your Hero is dead, no worries. If not...go from there. I'm not going to hold my breath for this, but I'm definitely going to cross my fingers.



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Yo guys, Morrigan says multiple different things about the Warden based on Keep decisions, sometimes she does say he's on his calling, others she says he's looking for a cure, and occasionally she barely talks about him.

 

So you could all be right, but AGAIN your Warden being dead does not mean anything in terms of more content, which I explained in my last post.



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You can send the warden a letter and get a response, so who came up with "he's dead!" ?!



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Leliana seemed pretty optimistic that my Warden would succeed in curing her Calling and rejoin her, in my case. Wasn't aware there were other potential fates for living Wardens. 



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We may see the Warden in a dlc, there is supposed to be something fishy happening in Weisshaupt, that would be a perfect place of the Hero of Ferelden to turn up.

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In my head cannon ...with all the "tent posting" that went on at camp, who's to say that Morrigan was the only one to storm the gates with a bun in the oven? :whistle:

 

Wouldn't it be interesting if the reason we haven't seen our HoF is that s/he and their LI are protecting their child ...and now as parents, they're searching for a cure to the blight so that they can grow old with their children. This is especially poignant for Alistair (as king his child would be an heir). But this idea would also work for Zevran or M!HoF and Anora, Leiliana, or Morrigan. It would also explain why the LI and others talk about the HoF (male or female) but we never see them ...somebody has to guard the little blighter ...and who better than Momma or Daddy HoF? Maybe even some help from Hawke and his/her LI?  ;) Can you imagine Isabela or Fenris babysitting?  :rolleyes:   

 

As for how do we see them without hearing them? Simple ...pick the face in CC like the "guest" in DA:I then have the LI (Alistair, Zevran, Leiliana, etc) or our favorite storyteller Varric narrate the cut-scene as if telling the tale to Quizzy at the start of the Quest/DLC/Expansion. We wouldn't hear the HoF ...but we could see him/her holding the baby, playing with the toddler, and then as s/he gets older ...Mom & Dad begin to realize The Calling is inevitable. Or maybe somebody (Flemmeth?) discovers their secret ...and they're forced to hide. The resolution to this story arc could be that they find a "fix" to The Calling and the end scene is also narrated with LI and HoF hugging/kissing ...followed by group hugs for the Little Hero.  :)  Then they all go into hiding until DA:4 ...when their Little Hero becomes the next Big Thing.  :D



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After having played the game, it makes sense to me why the Warden is not seen in game.  However, I think like another poster stated, if anything the events in this game just leave us with more questions concerning the Warden.  That's what it did for me anyways.  I would personally like to see a DLC of some sort that is solely focused on putting a concrete end to his story.  If your Warden is dead, then the Orlesian Warden Commander can take the place of the HoF.


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Whatever you say having a saved game import into this series has ruined it. It makes the writers have to write around certain things like the OGB  and will continue to have important things in your games be forced into cameos, dialogue encounters, or text boxes. Does anyone actually think the Divine they chose will ever be a critical factor in the next DA game?



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Leliana seemed pretty optimistic that my Warden would succeed in curing her Calling and rejoin her, in my case. Wasn't aware there were other potential fates for living Wardens. 

 

There is actually a multitude of possible letters.

 

I've seen a letter sent to Leliana as a love interest about him looking for a cure to The Calling, I've seen a couple where if the inquisitor is the same race as the warden they'll give them a small tidbit of advice (only seen dalish and casteless dwarven), morrigan has said that the warden left for his calling and has also given the same quest as alistair and it reads about the same (curing The Calling again), and finally I saw one where the Warden said she couldn't join the inquisition cause she was busy with Zevran and they had their own mission.

 

Ofc those were all screen shots and not actually all me, I haven't played THAT much yet lol  But yeah, we still don't even know how many possible differences there are, they just keep coming! 

 

Does anyone actually think the Divine they chose will ever be a critical factor in the next DA game?

 
I do!  And no, I don't mean what everyone seems to want where it ends up being a completely different world, I mean as every transfer game has always done, there will be a different NPC to interact with and they'll have their own possibilities in THAT game.
 
Not sure why people ever expect anything more then that, there has never been anything more then that and most people realize this and like it.  For example choosing Alistair as king hasn't changed much, just some dialogue and cutscenes, which for some isn't enough, so imagine making him king ruined Ferelden, it changed the face of the world and it was inherently a BAD decision!  Now everone would go back and make him a Warden instead (well, most people) cause it had a better outcome overall.  So you see having huge outcomes and differences doesn't create unique worlds, it pigeon-holes players into the same decisions as most others, where as the slight npc differences and quotes/cameos add that little bit of uniqueness but don't change the overall outcome, meaning we can do w/e we like with w/e options we choose.


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BioWare could easily work the Hero of Ferelden back in....here is how.

 

SPOILERS?

 

Plot Points: Flemeth --> Urthemiel (Fifth Blight Dragon) --> Warden

 

Just because a body is destroyed doesn't mean a being is dead as is shown in the case of powerful beings like Flemeth, Corypheus, the Dragons, etc. and certainly the Warden could fall under this category.

 

BioWare never explains what happens when the Old God soul and the Warden's collide...perhaps they merge as one or fight in the Fade, like how Kieran and Urthemiel inhabit one body...or Mythal and Flemeth.

 

So Origins has to end in a certain way:

 

Warden dies taking Urthemiel.

 

Loghain dies taking Urthemiel.

 

Alistair dies taking Urthemiel.

 

Kieran (Morrigan's son) gets Urthemiel's soul.

 

In Inquisition, we see Flemeth either take Urthemiel soul from Kieran or take Kieran himself. She has clearly been after the Old God's soul since Origins.

 

The Warden can be worked in like this: (Maybe DLC!)

 

1.) Going after Flemeth to reclaim the soul.

 

2.) Flemeth summons from the Fade the Urthemiel soul fused/connected with Warden/Alistair/ or Loghain's soul.

 

*in essence this could bring the Warden 'back to life' or actually back from the Fade (quite possibly with an Old God's power for him/herself.

 

And...I for one would love that. Origins was a great game and many other Origins characters play a huge role in the direction of Thedas....and Warden should too!



#89
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I mean...in a fantasy world were magic that stuff abounds. It really shouldn't be too hard to come up with a way for the Hero of Ferelden to have a come back.



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Would it be hard to do?  No.  Would it be a good idea?  No!
 

To many people have wildly different ideas of who and what the HoF is and how they handled their role during the Fifth Blight.  Bringing the Hero back into the spotlight would ****** far to many people off, no matter what scenario Bioware chose to use.  Its a terrible idea.
 


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Would it be hard to do?  No.  Would it be a good idea?  No!
 

To many people have wildly different ideas of who and what the HoF is and how they handled their role during the Fifth Blight.  Bringing the Hero back into the spotlight would ****** far to many people off, no matter what scenario Bioware chose to use.  Its a terrible idea.
 

More like would it be hard? Yes. Would be a good idea? Yes!

 

They should actually bring back the Warden from Awakening so those who had the HoF sacrifice themselves have something too. 


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Would it be hard to do?  No.  Would it be a good idea?  No!
 

To many people have wildly different ideas of who and what the HoF is and how they handled their role during the Fifth Blight.  Bringing the Hero back into the spotlight would ****** far to many people off, no matter what scenario Bioware chose to use.  Its a terrible idea.
 

Well, people don't seem to care. And I guarantee you that those who keep asking for a HoF expansion will complain about it the most, for the very reason you stated.



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If the Hero of Ferelden comes back it should be in a story DLC, where we find out that she(he)

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I think the hero of ferelden story is not over yet, there are a lot of loose ends with morrigan son and flemeth, plus everybody dream with black city, the warden and morrigan are the only who were there. 

 

And i think that flemeth and the warden have some business to finish...............



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I think the hero of ferelden story is not over yet, there are a lot of loose ends with morrigan son and flemeth, plus everybody dream with black city, the warden and morrigan are the only who were there. 
 
And i think that flemeth and the warden have some business to finish...............

They did not go to the Black City. If they had, they'd be Darkspawn now.

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I know David Gaider said that Bioware won't do more stories with the Warden, but I really wish we could play an adventure of trying to cure the Calling with our Warden as the protagonist, or at least a DLC of the Inquisitor trying to help the Warden.  

 

What I don't understand is why Bioware gave us such great reactivity in the end of DA:O and then forced our Wardens away from the paths they'd chosen.  In playthroughs where my city elf Warden was alive, she was the bann of the Denerim alienage and working to improve her people's lot.  So Awakening forced her into a different position for a while... why couldn't she have gone back to her DA:O epilogue situation, once that was done?  I remember reading a post by David Gaider a while back saying that there was a definite reason for the Warden's disappearance, and we shouldn't assume there wasn't just because we didn't know what it was.  But what is the point of turning it into a Calling hunt for everyone, if we're never going to experience how that works out, or maybe never even find out if the Warden had any success at all?  Maybe the point is to give some hope to the idea that our Wardens (and Alistair, if alive!) could have a longer life and not have to die miserably in the Deep Roads.  If so, that's a point I can get behind.  After all, if the Warden succeeds, we can then imagine whatever future we like.  But why not give us the opportunity to actually explore such a mission?  Customization could be just like with Hawke in DA:I, and the choice of two voices per gender would be fine by me as well.



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They did not go to the Black City. If they had, they'd be Darkspawn now.

 



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I know David Gaider said that Bioware won't do more stories with the Warden,

 

This keeps showing up once in a while. Anybody got a link to the post where he actually said that?

 

I need a reason to bath me in another tub of hate.

 

 

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And i think that flemeth and the warden have some business to finish...............

 

Flemeth's business is finished either way...


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What angers me the most is that in DA2 it ends with them saying Hawks AND the warden gone missing that someone was manipulating events and were connected.

In DAI we learn that leliana and warden were always in contact and the missing part was pretty ignored

 

Yeah, my warden was queen to Alistair king.  If she was queen, she wouldn't run off to look for a cure.  That's crazy to me.  She'd send someone else and would be caring for the kingdom while Alistair was off doing whatever kings do.  I found the "ran off to do such and such" a huge disappointment.  In DAI, the same, that she's off who knows where while her king hubby is running the kingdom alone makes no sense when they have tons of people in the kingdom who could do it for them.

 

Just my opinion.  BW lost me on that one and now I have no connection to my warden at all.  My warden wouldn't have done that.