Also, since the HoF came first people feel that way. The voice acting and complex stories from BioWare are create but they are removing people from 'being' the character a little more I think.
Yesish. While voiceing the main character is nice, it makes it much more difficult to idetify, as it usually going to be clear the voice is not yours which breaks immersion. While if no vioce you can imagine. Which is why I tend to paly opposite sex characters when the main character is voiced.
Not everyone wants to see their warden, and many wardens are outright dead. Add onto that the many races all with distinctive voices and accents (the voice thing would be the hardest to overcome as people imagine what their silent characters sound like all the time, and if it's off it's usually off in a BIG jarring way), variables, facts that everyone has their own headcanons for what their warden looks and acts like - where as Hawke for all their depth can be split off into three definitive and set personalities - and you have such a potential clusterfuck I really can't see Bioware attempting it without inviting rage like they've never seen. I get why people want to see her/him, I really do, but at this point I'm hoping we don't. If only because I can practically see the topics popping up about how Bioware ruined someone's Warden for 'x' reason and why they're never buying a game from them again.
Not everybody gave a damn about Hawke either, but they sure forced that one.
I kind of agree with what is everyone is saying (and by everyone I mean the last few posts 
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I feel that after Origins they should have closed HOF's story. In my case, I married Alistair and rule by his side for all eternity - that's how it ended in my head. By bringing him/her up in every game is like slowly dying of curiosity. It makes me want to fly to Bioware HQ and break the place down. I can't wait 10 more games to finally know what happened to my Warden and Alistair. Searching for a "cure" for the calling is something extraordinary, but they could have used some other unimportant Grey Warden. I just hope, for the sake of my romantic heart, that the HOF eventually finds the cure (and again in my case) goes back to Alistair and lives happily ever after with him. Maybe Bioware can throw in a "how to have babies even though you have the taint and you are involved with someone that also has the taint running through their veins". One thing though, I fear what Morrigan's child will have in store for Alistair/"King Warden". If Bioware mind f***ed us with HOF's story and a who Alistair's real mother is, they might just throw in another surprise there.
Just remember Bioware, I am watching. 
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Not everyone wants to see their warden, and many wardens are outright dead. Add onto that the many races all with distinctive voices and accents (the voice thing would be the hardest to overcome as people imagine what their silent characters sound like all the time, and if it's off it's usually off in a BIG jarring way), variables, facts that everyone has their own headcanons for what their warden looks and acts like - where as Hawke for all their depth can be split off into three definitive and set personalities - and you have such a potential clusterfuck I really can't see Bioware attempting it without inviting rage like they've never seen. I get why people want to see her/him, I really do, but at this point I'm hoping we don't. If only because I can practically see the topics popping up about how Bioware ruined someone's Warden for 'x' reason and why they're never buying a game from them again.
I agree with you completely, but I think Bioware messed that one up themselves. They should have thought about that before they mentioned him/her in DA2 or in DAI. Now they just left us with a major headache and a billion questions. Maybe they can use a small set of people to work on one small piece for each scenario, since although their personalities where very different, the endings all let up to the same thing, but saying that I realize that the romances might be a problem.
I think a lot of people get frustrated since they still make a big deal out of Alistair, Leliana and Morrigan and, depending on minority or majority, a lot of people romanced them. Well I am not here to state the obvious, but all I'm saying is that Bioware should do something real quick, because they ruined this one for themselves.
Look at it this way -- No matter how BioWare would have chosen to address the Warden it still wouldn't be enough for fans to be considered 'closure'. It's crazy, really. The Warden needs to be 10 feet under before people will stop asking for closure. They could have chosen to say the Warden has retired to sunny Seheron, and people would still demand for DLC or an expansion, show their hairy dwarven/human/elven arse licking sun on the beaches of Pal Vollen or something.
They chose instead to have them search for a cure to the Taint, which is ideal since it would make sense with most player's Wardens. Waiting for premature cancer to kick in is not quite exciting, right?
Bioware have sort of been contrary on this - saying the story of the Warden was 'over', but not finsihing anything off. Now they have the Warden off on a 'quest', which leads to questions of, 'What happens now...'. So it isn't finished. And if they jedi-hand-wave it away or kill the Warden off-screen it'll just be more disappointing.
My Warden matters more to me than my Hawke or my Inquisitor at this point. I want the story wrapped up. Sadly, we are unlikely to get that, and since they have left us hanging with things (like what Morrigan left for the Warden at the end of Witch Hunt)...no matter what they do, players will be left with questions about the Wardens story.
The problem is, as I'm sure has already been said, some peoples' wardens are DEAD.
That tends to be pretty final. Unless you're Leliana.
I kind of agree with what is everyone is saying (and by everyone I mean the last few posts
I feel that after Origins they should have closed HOF's story. In my case, I married Alistair and rule by his side for all eternity - that's how it ended in my head. By bringing him/her up in every game is like slowly dying of curiosity. It makes me want to fly to Bioware HQ and break the place down. I can't wait 10 more games to finally know what happened to my Warden and Alistair. Searching for a "cure" for the calling is something extraordinary, but they could have used some other unimportant Grey Warden. I just hope, for the sake of my romantic heart, that the HOF eventually finds the cure (and again in my case) goes back to Alistair and lives happily ever after with him. Maybe Bioware can throw in a "how to have babies even though you have the taint and you are involved with someone that also has the taint running through their veins". One thing though, I fear what Morrigan's child will have in store for Alistair/"King Warden". If Bioware mind f***ed us with HOF's story and a who Alistair's real mother is, they might just throw in another surprise there.
Just remember Bioware, I am watching.
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The problem is, as I'm sure has already been said, some peoples' wardens are DEAD.
That tends to be pretty final. Unless you're Leliana.
It wasn't a problem in Awakening.
It wasn't a problem in Awakening.
A point, but one that's already been subverted. The writers regretted the chocie to allow you to play a Warden that had died, and imports into DA2 place more emphasis on the Ultimate Sacrifice than anything else. So, if you imported a US game into Awakenings, and then imported that ending save (from Awakenings) into DA2, DA2 operates as if the HoF died in Denerim, and the events you imported were done by an Orlesian Warden-Commandeer.
The Keep does the same thing.
A point, but one that's already been subverted. The writers regretted the chocie to allow you to play a Warden that had died, and imports into DA2 place more emphasis on the Ultimate Sacrifice than anything else. So, if you imported a US game into Awakenings, and then imported that ending save (from Awakenings) into DA2, DA2 operates as if the HoF died in Denerim, and the events you imported were done by an Orlesian Warden-Commandeer.
The Keep does the same thing.
I'm not sure that I understood well. I imported a lot of Awakening saves and DA2 never operated as if my warden was dead.... o. o
Why is importing a dead Warden a problem for the gamers? If your Warden is dead do not import him. The option to make a new Warden for Awakening is there so its a gamers choice.
Making an expansion to an existing game where only some of your buyers are able to import a character is one thing, but making an entirely new game is quite another.
For those that don't want to see there Warden again in a DLC, they could simply not buy "said" DLC. And for those that have a dead Warden, the story could still use "a" Warden to tell it, similar to how there's Shroad/Alistair/Loghain for that one mission. An since Bioware already invented the Orlesian Warden from Awakening/Witch Hunt, they could always use that character for those who killed their Warden. And for those who kept their Warden alive, they can finally get closure on that character's storyline. Eitherway, there's a Warden running around trying to stop the Calling that Bioware can tell a story with.
Voice wise, believe it or not Bioware already gave a voice to a Warden AND allowed us to choice which one we wanted way back in Origin, though that voice only said commands in combat. I picked Mark Meer's voice, so if they bring him and the other voices back for it, and allow me to pick, I'd be happy.
Personality wise, that can be somewhat solved:
"So Morrigan, what was the warden like?"
"Well... she/he was...."
a) A kind and diplomatic person
A person you couldn't take seriously. Always trying to say a joke.
c) A complete dick. Always angry, and trying to kill people with his murder knife.
I guess it'd be possible for Bioware to make a DLC with the HoF or Warden Commander as the lead character. They wouldn't need to get voice actors for the different types of Wardens if that were the case.
With that being said it's highly unlikely, and it's more likely that we'll be continuing the Inquisitor's story instead.
I think we're really most likely gonna get a DLC where Inquis teams up with the Warden, where Inquis makes all the main choices, and the Warden gets the Calling worked out, and thus allows the Warden's story to be concluded so we can stop caring about him or her, and sleep well at night knowing they're returning to their LI to get laid.
I'm not sure that I understood well. I imported a lot of Awakening saves and DA2 never operated as if my warden was dead.... o. o
I apologize, I should have said that the intent of the importation was to have the Ultimate Sacrifice take precedence. I know that at least one forumite posted that it worked as intended for him/her, but the bugs in the import flags from DAO->Awakenings->DA2 are legion.
Then again, I don't recall many times in DA2 where the Hero of Ferelden is specifically referred to as such, aside from if Alistair is king ans you meet him at the Vicount's palace. Teagan refers to the HoF in that situation. All other mentions of the character are done in such a way that it could be one of the othe rpossible characters.
- well look what they got him doing in the books!) as no one would recognize them anyway. 
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