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[SkywardDescent]

jellobell wrote...

Borschtbeet wrote...

As for Garrus, yeah that does seem far fetched. I'm actually guessing the romance option will be a platonic one. Kind of like Juhani from KOTOR.

You'd be wrong. Watch the Mordin video, it's...educational.

EDIT: Aha, linked it. Potential spoilers so be careful.

-snip-

*facepalm*
That's a spoiler...

Get rid of it before a Mod sweeps through here...

[KainrycKarr]

Lethys1 wrote...

Kyero wrote...

someone's agenst blacks having sex with whites. I smell hate from here and it seems to come from you OP.

I have been misinterpreted before, but this is definitely the worst time.  I am trying not to have the thread locked, I kinda wanna see a dev post about what they were thinking.  So please, keep these ridiculous comments out.

....an overwhelming majority of people asked for it?

Yeah, personally Garrus seems a tad far-fetched, but honestly I can still see it happening. Sex is *not* a necessity for a romance, and I think that's fairly evident in the ME universe.

But there are human options. So I really don't understand the complaint.

How does the options being there hurt your gameplay?

[Matdeception]

Sonris wrote...

Garrus looks like a dog with mandables and chicken legs.

A good friend, dunno if I would ever want to get in bed with a turien though, they just look way different then what humans are used to. I mean they look all point and sharp and have a few odd bits.

That and arn't they made up of like a completely different amminio acid or something? I was wondering would that cause a reaction if they had sex with a human?

I could quote something hilarious from Mordin here, but I want, spoiler y'know?

Anyway, it's a matter of personal preference and taste. If one is so inclined to explore something radical, such as with different species, that's their business. Some people will respect your choice, some people will condemn it, and many more simply won't care.

I, personally, fail to see anything attractive (On a physical level) about Garrus. I never paid much attention to him emotionally, so I can't comment. Nevertheless, some people HAVE found him attractive, and they are entitled to their opinion.

Same goes for Tali. I like her personality, her voice, and to avoid the non-sensical ranting - Her hips - and how her entire life is focused on helping her fellow people. I think she's cute, so I will romance her (Depending on how the option is present, poor story telling equals no romance as far as I'm concerned.)

Again, it's all opinion. No reason to crap all over people who have a difference of it, otherwise you should walk outside and start flinging monkey poo at everyone, cause guess what, everyone has a difference of opinion.

[Ellestor]

Of the females in ME1, I was most fascinated by—and attracted to—Tali, whilst my girlfriend felt the same way of Garrus, though perhaps less sexually. I suppose we're the fans being serviced.

[Scharfschutzen]

Gorn Kregore wrote...

Lethys1 wrote...

Kyero wrote...

someone's agenst blacks having sex with whites. I smell hate from here and it seems to come from you OP.

I have been misinterpreted before, but this is definitely the worst time.  I am trying not to have the thread locked, I kinda wanna see a dev post about what they were thinking.  So please, keep these ridiculous comments out.

You can't hide your true colors OP deep down we all know you're a big racist.

Why is it that whenever someone doesn't dig sex with aliens (who are of a different species, not race, by the way) everyone cries racist? You guys are just hyper-sensitve, querulous spazzes. 

[KainrycKarr]

Borschtbeet wrote...

ITSSEXYTIME wrote...

Tali/Garrus relationships are pure fan service. Simple as that.

I have to agree actually.  I'm sure Bioware's writers will think of something to explain it, but it will probably seem really contrived.

I bet when Drew Karpyshyn first designed Tali he had no clue she would ever end up as a romance interest.

Actually they intended Tali to be a romance interest in ME1. They halted it because they didn't think anyone would like it.

how wrong they were.

Oh, and it isn't beastiality, it's xenophilia. That would be the proper term.

Some people find exotic things attractive. In the Tali/Garrus area....very exotic.

Weird? Yeah, to some, and it's understandable. but quite a few people wanted it. So we got it.

And they still have human options, so I'm not sure who it's harming.

[TitanX84]

Matdeception wrote...

Sonris wrote...

Garrus looks like a dog with mandables and chicken legs.

A good friend, dunno if I would ever want to get in bed with a turien though, they just look way different then what humans are used to. I mean they look all point and sharp and have a few odd bits.

That and arn't they made up of like a completely different amminio acid or something? I was wondering would that cause a reaction if they had sex with a human?

I could quote something hilarious from Mordin here, but I want, spoiler y'know?

Anyway, it's a matter of personal preference and taste. If one is so inclined to explore something radical, such as with different species, that's their business. Some people will respect your choice, some people will condemn it, and many more simply won't care.

I, personally, fail to see anything attractive (On a physical level) about Garrus. I never paid much attention to him emotionally, so I can't comment. Nevertheless, some people HAVE found him attractive, and they are entitled to their opinion.

Same goes for Tali. I like her personality, her voice, and to avoid the non-sensical ranting - Her hips - and how her entire life is focused on helping her fellow people. I think she's cute, so I will romance her (Depending on how the option is present, poor story telling equals no romance as far as I'm concerned.)

Again, it's all opinion. No reason to crap all over people who have a difference of it, otherwise you should walk outside and start flinging monkey poo at everyone, cause guess what, everyone has a difference of opinion.

My thoughts exactly.  Very well put.

[Kimarous]

Agreed. I see Tali's appeal, but not Garrus's... but then, I'm a guy. That and turians strike me as more of a "cool" species than a "sexy" species.

[Lethys1]

Matdeception wrote...

Lethys1 wrote...

Kyero wrote...

someone's agenst blacks having sex with whites. I smell hate from here and it seems to come from you OP.

I have been misinterpreted before, but this is definitely the worst time.  I am trying not to have the thread locked, I kinda wanna see a dev post about what they were thinking.  So please, keep these ridiculous comments out.

What does it matter what they were thinking? It really isn't up for debate. The story line for romance with Aliens fits into the ME universe, so I fail to see the problem. 

Don't think I've ever seen anyone go OMGWTFBBQ about Captain Kirk whoring it up in his series, and is it really so different?

That you compare another sentient being to an animal, and suggesting such a relationship is akin to beastiality is you doing so, is rather... narrow minded? Absurd? I can't even describe it, except to accuse you of being a xenophobe, but I'd rather not.

Yes, this is a make believe imaginary world that your are trying to bring a viewpoint from our society into. It doesn't mesh, it doesn't work. Just accept it, and avoid romancing them period.

To reiterate - Bioware doesn't owe anyone an explanation for what they've included in their game, and demanding they respond is silly.

Firstly, just because someone doesn't "owe" me an explanation doesn't mean that I can't ask a company that I am a customer of and fan of a question.  Where did I demand anything?  I would LIKE them to respond but don't expect anything more than the thread being locked.

Secondly, I love all the aliens and love the idea of aliens in general.  I hated Ashley because she was so anti-alien, and I romanced Liara because I liked her a lot and because though blue, she was still nice looking.  I have no problems with the asari because they look like us.

The way that you put it, though, is to imply that any lines drawn about what one would or would not do is xenophobic.  I am drawing the line with Turians, who literally resemble bugs, and Drell, who look like fish.

Bioware loves to give a more "realistic" view of even ficitonal worlds, and gives us the darker worlds that DA:O take place in as examples of this.  In the real alien ME world, Turians would look down on Turian-human relations, just as humans would look down on human-turian relations.  If the writers wrote it any other way, they wouldn't be staying true to the lore THEY wrote in the first game, no matter what.

The way you put it seems to imply that you would want even Volus and Elcor Romance options.

Modifié par Lethys1, 26 janvier 2010 - 01:48 .

[LucidStrike]

You can "accept"? Yeah, people need your approval.

Modifié par LucidStrike, 26 janvier 2010 - 01:48 .

[LucidStrike]

[OOPS]

Modifié par LucidStrike, 26 janvier 2010 - 01:48 .

[Galluskek]

Don't think I've ever seen anyone go OMGWTFBBQ about Captain Kirk whoring it up in his series, and is it really so different?

Did anyone else have the sudden impulse to find out if Kirk/Horta fics are in existance?

Now that's taking inter-species romance to another level entirely.

Modifié par Galluskek, 26 janvier 2010 - 01:49 .

[KainrycKarr]

Lethys1 wrote...

Matdeception wrote...

Lethys1 wrote...

Kyero wrote...

someone's agenst blacks having sex with whites. I smell hate from here and it seems to come from you OP.

I have been misinterpreted before, but this is definitely the worst time.  I am trying not to have the thread locked, I kinda wanna see a dev post about what they were thinking.  So please, keep these ridiculous comments out.

What does it matter what they were thinking? It really isn't up for debate. The story line for romance with Aliens fits into the ME universe, so I fail to see the problem. 

Don't think I've ever seen anyone go OMGWTFBBQ about Captain Kirk whoring it up in his series, and is it really so different?

That you compare another sentient being to an animal, and suggesting such a relationship is akin to beastiality is you doing so, is rather... narrow minded? Absurd? I can't even describe it, except to accuse you of being a xenophobe, but I'd rather not.

Yes, this is a make believe imaginary world that your are trying to bring a viewpoint from our society into. It doesn't mesh, it doesn't work. Just accept it, and avoid romancing them period.

To reiterate - Bioware doesn't owe anyone an explanation for what they've included in their game, and demanding they respond is silly.

Firstly, just because someone doesn't "owe" me an explanation doesn't mean that I can't ask a company that I am a customer of and fan of a question.  Where did I demand anything?  I would LIKE them to respond but don't expect anything more than the thread being locked.

Secondly, I love all the aliens and love the idea of aliens in general.  I hated Ashley because she was so anti-alien, and I romanced Liara because I liked her a lot and because though blue, she was still nice looking.  I have no problems with the asari because they look like us.

The way that you put it, though, is to imply that any lines drawn about what one would or would not do is xenophobic.  I am drawing the line with Turians, who literally resemble bugs, and Drell, who look like fish.

Bioware loves to give a more "realistic" view of even ficitonal worlds, and gives us the darker worlds that DA:O take place in as examples of this.  In the real alien ME world, Turians would look down on Turian-human relations, just as humans would look down on human-turian relations.  If the writers wrote it any other way, they wouldn't be staying true to the lore THEY wrote in the first game, no matter what.

Anyone else thinking this will pop up during the game at some point? If anything, I'd think that would fit quite well with Shepard and Garrus, considering both are fairly "against the grain" but extremely competent.

It'd probably be judged but not condemned.

Again, I refer to my previous posts...there are human options, so how do alien options affect your gameplay?

[Borschtbeet]

SkywardDescent wrote...

jellobell wrote...

Borschtbeet wrote...

As for Garrus, yeah that does seem far fetched. I'm actually guessing the romance option will be a platonic one. Kind of like Juhani from KOTOR.

You'd be wrong. Watch the Mordin video, it's...educational.

EDIT: Aha, linked it. Potential spoilers so be careful.

-snip-

A spoiler?  It's just speculation!  I don't know anything more than Garrus being a romance option.
*facepalm*
That's a spoiler...

Get rid of it before a Mod sweeps through here...

[jkelso1]

I'm sure it has been said before, but completely option fan service. Bioware didn't intend to make Garrus or Tali into LIs, but there was a demand from the fans for it.

[KainrycKarr]

jkelso1 wrote...

I'm sure it has been said before, but completely option fan service. Bioware didn't intend to make Garrus or Tali into LIs, but there was a demand from the fans for it.

Yes they did, in Tali's case. They scrapped it because they didn't think she'd be popular.

[Kyero]

Lethys1 wrote...

Kyero wrote...

someone's agenst blacks having sex with whites. I smell hate from here and it seems to come from you OP.

I have been misinterpreted before, but this is definitely the worst time.  I am trying not to have the thread locked, I kinda wanna see a dev post about what they were thinking.  So please, keep these ridiculous comments out.

ha, you want rediculous? Look at this thread, your mixing up Animals with Aliens... now thats rediculous.

[SomethinNothing]

Lethys1 wrote...

Bioware loves to give a more "realistic" view of even ficitonal worlds, and gives us the darker worlds that DA:O take place in as examples of this.  In the real alien ME world, Turians would look down on Turian-human relations, just as humans would look down on human-turian relations.  If the writers wrote it any other way, they wouldn't be staying true to the lore THEY wrote in the first game, no matter what.

And you know what else is realistic? That certain people would still go against such cultural taboos. Nowhere is it said that most don't look down on inter-species relationships, just that Shep and his LI can decide it's not that big of a deal for themselves.

Modifié par SomethinNothing, 26 janvier 2010 - 01:57 .

[Matdeception]

Lethys1 wrote...

Matdeception wrote...

Lethys1 wrote...

Kyero wrote...

someone's agenst blacks having sex with whites. I smell hate from here and it seems to come from you OP.

I have been misinterpreted before, but this is definitely the worst time.  I am trying not to have the thread locked, I kinda wanna see a dev post about what they were thinking.  So please, keep these ridiculous comments out.

What does it matter what they were thinking? It really isn't up for debate. The story line for romance with Aliens fits into the ME universe, so I fail to see the problem. 

Don't think I've ever seen anyone go OMGWTFBBQ about Captain Kirk whoring it up in his series, and is it really so different?

That you compare another sentient being to an animal, and suggesting such a relationship is akin to beastiality is you doing so, is rather... narrow minded? Absurd? I can't even describe it, except to accuse you of being a xenophobe, but I'd rather not.

Yes, this is a make believe imaginary world that your are trying to bring a viewpoint from our society into. It doesn't mesh, it doesn't work. Just accept it, and avoid romancing them period.

To reiterate - Bioware doesn't owe anyone an explanation for what they've included in their game, and demanding they respond is silly.

Firstly, just because someone doesn't "owe" me an explanation doesn't mean that I can't ask a company that I am a customer of and fan of a question.  Where did I demand anything?  I would LIKE them to respond but don't expect anything more than the thread being locked.

Secondly, I love all the aliens and love the idea of aliens in general.  I hated Ashley because she was so anti-alien, and I romanced Liara because I liked her a lot and because though blue, she was still nice looking.  I have no problems with the asari because they look like us.

The way that you put it, though, is to imply that any lines drawn about what one would or would not do is xenophobic.  I am drawing the line with Turians, who literally resemble bugs, and Drell, who look like fish.

Bioware loves to give a more "realistic" view of even ficitonal worlds, and gives us the darker worlds that DA:O take place in as examples of this.  In the real alien ME world, Turians would look down on Turian-human relations, just as humans would look down on human-turian relations.  If the writers wrote it any other way, they wouldn't be staying true to the lore THEY wrote in the first game, no matter what.

The way you put it seems to imply that you would want even Volus and Elcor Romance options.

Ah, I see we are indeed on the same wave length here, at least about the view points of other people.

And I in no way mentioned to alluded to Volus or Elcor romances, but now that you bring it up I suppose it could be possible... except that the Volus literally die out of their pressure suits, and the Elcor...

That's a funny thought. How the hell could you even tell if an Elcor is getting emotional randy.

"Horny Statement: I wish to bang you."

Ugh, I'm going to be wondering about this for at least the next ten minutes.

Anyway, we've gone over in many different threads that relationships are not solely dependant on physical contact. It certainly is a bonus, but it isn't always. I do agree the Turians would look down on a Turian-Human relationship, but Garrus doesn't honestly care about that - He only wants to do what he feels is right.

Tali... well I guess the Quarians would really frown at a Quarian-Human relationship, except they no longer have the right for reasons I can not state with out giving out spoilers (Even if they are obvious ones).

It still comes down to - It's a matter of personal choice and preference. Where does anyone have the right to 'draw the line' about some one elses beliefs in what they can find attractive?

I'm a neutral party here, I see your point and understand, logically, your side of it. But I also understand the other side of it, and nothing you've said has supplied any concrete evidence as to why such relationships wouldn't work. The most you have going for you is the difference in amino acids, but that's apparently explained in the game (I don't know how they do it, so don't ask).

[Chris_Really_Rocks]

Unless you all know something about the OP not apparent from this thread, the racism accusations are way out of line.

[SkywardDescent]

Borschtbeet wrote...

SkywardDescent wrote...

jellobell wrote...

Borschtbeet wrote...

As for Garrus, yeah that does seem far fetched. I'm actually guessing the romance option will be a platonic one. Kind of like Juhani from KOTOR.

You'd be wrong. Watch the Mordin video, it's...educational.

EDIT: Aha, linked it. Potential spoilers so be careful.

-snip-

*facepalm*
That's a spoiler...

Get rid of it before a Mod sweeps through here...

A spoiler?  It's just speculation!  I don't know anything more than Garrus being a romance option.

I didn't mean you

I was clearly quoting Jellobell, a bit on edge, eh? :innocent:

Modifié par SkywardDescent, 26 janvier 2010 - 01:57 .

[Blacklash93]

Having seen them myself, I can say the romance relationships with those two are extremely awkward. It's like reading (or in this case, watching) a bad fanfic. Then again, how could it come off any other way?

Modifié par Blacklash93, 26 janvier 2010 - 01:59 .

[gamergamergamer]

Kyero wrote...

Lethys1 wrote...

Kyero wrote...

someone's agenst blacks having sex with whites. I smell hate from here and it seems to come from you OP.

I have been misinterpreted before, but this is definitely the worst time.  I am trying not to have the thread locked, I kinda wanna see a dev post about what they were thinking.  So please, keep these ridiculous comments out.

ha, you want rediculous? Look at this thread, your mixing up Animals with Aliens... now thats rediculous.

lol sorry dude but normal people find the idea of having sex with a walking fish man or a girl with chicken legs in a hazmat suit repulsive, regardless of whether they can think or not

[Matdeception]

Chris_Really_Rocks wrote...

Unless you all know something about the OP not apparent from this thread, the racism accusations are way out of line.

Have to Quote this for Truth.

[Matdeception]

gamergamergamer wrote...

Kyero wrote...

Lethys1 wrote...

Kyero wrote...

someone's agenst blacks having sex with whites. I smell hate from here and it seems to come from you OP.

I have been misinterpreted before, but this is definitely the worst time.  I am trying not to have the thread locked, I kinda wanna see a dev post about what they were thinking.  So please, keep these ridiculous comments out.

ha, you want rediculous? Look at this thread, your mixing up Animals with Aliens... now thats rediculous.

lol sorry dude but normal people find the idea of having sex with a walking fish man or a girl with chicken legs in a hazmat suit repulsive, regardless of whether they can think or not

And here I have to interject. The term 'normal' is subjective. Some 'normal' people believe women should be covered from head to toe in clothes so that no other man may see them. Some 'normal' people believe in God and the Devil. Some 'normal' people wear white after labor day here in the states. Some 'normal' people believe it's their divine mandate to blow the **** out of innocent people.

Normal is simply a viewpoint for any particular culture and/or species. You can't use the 'most normal people' as an excuse to disregard some one's view point, because while you may believe yourself to be 'normal', there's a world of people out there who think you're the weird one.

I am not calling you weird, or attacking you, but I am debunking the use of the term 'normal.'