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[ChaoticBroth]

RogueAI wrote...

Looks like you guys are quite defensive when it comes to your position on screwing around with other species of animals (aka bestiality). Obviously, you would never admit this in public, and instead hide behind your anonymity on the internet.

I'm done talking to you freaks.

Looks like you are quite defensive when it comes to your position on things too, lol.

Ah, human nature, you've never failed me with your never-ending hypocrisy and humor.

[Kyero]

Seriously, Lethys1 and RogueAI are what happen when you have blood relative sex.

[Pyro_Monkey]

well, Tali's bound to be worth romancing because you know you've been dying to find out what she looks like under her armor since you first met her in ME.



..and they say curiosity killed the cat, but I can't wait to see just how exactly a romance with a femshep and garrus or Thane would work. Heck we don't even know if Turians or Drells even have sex.

[Lethys1]

Kyero wrote...

RogueAI also forgets that we were once Chimpanzies (Spelling lol)  unless he's one of those idiots who dispise that "FACT!"

It seems like you're still a chimpanzee, given the brutish nature of every one of your responses and the inability to respond with anything logical...

To actually respond to your point, just because we were chimpanzees doesn't mean that people go to the forests to look for women as another option besides the nightclubs.

And stop grouping me with Rogue AI, the guy is not exactly correct either.

[blank1]

Not really a spoiler, maybe sort of, but every Quarian female has ridiculous hips. I'd secks their entire female gender.

[Lethys1]

Kyero wrote...

Seriously, Lethys1 and RogueAI are what happen when you have blood relative sex.

Bro stop trolling the hell out of this thread and saying the dumbest responses ever.  You aren't amusing anyone and are bringing the intelligence level of this thread to a new low with every post.

If you have a point, make it.  If not, be a little bit more mature with what you say.

[Dave of Canada]

stylepoints wrote...

Blacklash93 wrote...

Having seen them myself, I can say the romance relationships with those two are extremely awkward. It's like reading (or in this case, watching) a bad fanfic. Then again, how could it come off any other way?

I thought the Tali one was really well done. You know so many of these "romances" were ridiculous, people being hopelessly in love with each other too quickly, after just talking a few times. Tali's romance is the most believable, considering the time that they have known each other and the circumstances. It also seemed like a very sweet love story too, it wasn't: Talk about family, talk about mission, talk about feelings, bang. It was a long relationship and there were real obstacles in the way that needed to be addressed. It was very cute and a welcome change from the hobags from ME1 and 2.

Garrus one was also nice.

[Kyero]

Lethys1 wrote...

Kyero wrote...

RogueAI also forgets that we were once Chimpanzies (Spelling lol)  unless he's one of those idiots who dispise that "FACT!"

It seems like you're still a chimpanzee, given the brutish nature of every one of your responses and the inability to respond with anything logical...

To actually respond to your point, just because we were chimpanzees doesn't mean that people go to the forests to look for women as another option besides the nightclubs.

And stop grouping me with Rogue AI, the guy is not exactly correct either.

and neither are you.why bother trying to say anything logical when you'll just ignore it and **** and moan that what ever you belive in is the right thing to do.

[stylepoints]

I heard the garrus one was also nice. I however couldn't bring myself to play through and see it. It is good though from what I've heard. My hat is off to bioware for not just making it about seeing some pixelated chick in a bra this time around.

[Kyero]

so Lethys why don't you and RogueAI get out of the Mass effect forums and go to some place where your hate is welcome, because apparently its not welcomed here.

[T1l]

We have not come in to contact with alien life yet. We have no idea what they will look like, how the will communicate, or, if we will be able to communicate with them, how they will think, or if they will be friend or foe. The simple fact that, if we do come in to contact with other sentient species (the chance of which is astronomically low), their culture and their technology will be decades or centuries ahead of ours and, almost certainly, different in a way that human beings can not comprehend. The barriers that humans and "alien life" will face will be monumental, especially if we, or they, are expected to co-exist (if we can co-exist at all. There is no guarantee that alien life will be carbon based).

Therefore currently, xenophilia is seen as make-believe. Not real. Fantasy. And it is for this reason, and this reason alone, that people do not find it confronting.

In saying that, though, just because xenophilia is "sci-fi" at the moment doesn't mean that, in the future, it might be a reality. It's highly unlikely, but hey, you never know; and it will be when xenophilia crosses the realm of fiction to fact that it creates hostile responses from people and the media at large.

It is the same reason that people are not up in arms about depicting sex with Elves and Dwarves.

Banging aliens - gross? Maybe, but it's fantasy and nothing more.

(To be completely honest, I wish Bioware had never put romances in their games in the first place. It attracts a certain demographic of people that focus on relationships and relationships only - and in doing so, in my opinion, they detract from the other aspects of the game. In fact, I'd go as far as to say that the inclusion of "sex" in Mass Effect cheapens the product and the IP; I would hold both ME1 and ME2 in higher regard if they did not include xenophilia or perfunctory relationships/sex-scenes. But, that's just me. There's a lot of people who will disagree with that.)

[Dave of Canada]

stylepoints wrote...

I heard the garrus one was also nice. I however couldn't bring myself to play through and see it. It is good though from what I've heard. My hat is off to bioware for not just making it about seeing some pixelated chick in a bra this time around.

WARNING: HUGE SPOILERS. YOU ARE WARNED.

[HiroLSX]

There is a great Show called Doctor Who. S1 ep2. I believe "So many Races so little time." When Rose asked our role in the galaxy that is what the Doctor said.

[LucidStrike]

SomethinNothing wrote...

LucidStrike wrote...

"Lower animals"? Ironically, there's a lot of human exceptionalism here, even from those who are defending xenophilia.

It's a bit of an archaic description. I was simply trying to quote from an online dictionary the same as him. Lower doesn't necessarily mean less worthy, simply that they aren't as intellectually developed [as far as WE can tell, by OUR standards].

It's still human exceptionalism, because, while it's culturally acceptable to call nonhuman animals 'lower', it's not so acceptable to call a human 'lower'.

Modifié par LucidStrike, 26 janvier 2010 - 03:16 .

[loboME2]

I don't really care one way or the other. So far the romance threads has been about interspecies and same sex. Was there one on polygamy? I would loved to have chosen liara AND ashley....

[Lethys1]

Kyero wrote...

Lethys1 wrote...

Kyero wrote...

RogueAI also forgets that we were once Chimpanzies (Spelling lol)  unless he's one of those idiots who dispise that "FACT!"

It seems like you're still a chimpanzee, given the brutish nature of every one of your responses and the inability to respond with anything logical...

To actually respond to your point, just because we were chimpanzees doesn't mean that people go to the forests to look for women as another option besides the nightclubs.

And stop grouping me with Rogue AI, the guy is not exactly correct either.

and neither are you.why bother trying to say anything logical when you'll just ignore it and **** and moan that what ever you belive in is the right thing to do.

What have I been ignoring?  You called me a racist, said I was a product of incest and told me that my opinions are absolutely retarded.  You don't know me.  I have been responding to everything you said in at least a civilized manner, you respond to me by insulting me and telling me to leave.

You realize that we are arguing over what is really a fake situation and you calling me names is insulting?  You are honestly a child, Kyero.  I hope that we never meet in real life because I would literally beat the **** out of you if I ever saw you in the street.  You are an insulting and overall abrasive person that seems to have no redeeming qualities, based on the way you can berate a person you have never even seen on an internet forum about a video game.

All I'm doing is presenting my opinion, you could present yours without being a piece of ****.

Modifié par Lethys1, 26 janvier 2010 - 03:18 .

[Kyero]

I would love to meet you on the street to laugh in your face how serious your TAKING A GOD DAMN GAME!

[drhelio212]

Pyro_Monkey wrote...

well, Tali's bound to be worth romancing because you know you've been dying to find out what she looks like under her armor since you first met her in ME.

..and they say curiosity killed the cat, but I can't wait to see just how exactly a romance with a femshep and garrus or Thane would work. Heck we don't even know if Turians or Drells even have sex.

Both species are either asexual or hermaphrodites. Didn't you know?

[drhelio212]

loboME2 wrote...

I don't really care one way or the other. So far the romance threads has been about interspecies and same sex. Was there one on polygamy? I would loved to have chosen liara AND ashley....

"In your dreams, Shepard!"

[Matdeception]

Lethys1 wrote...

lRavenl wrote...

Love can be found anywhere.. even if there might not be any "sexual" relashionship doesn't meen 2 sentient beings can't love each other...2 people regardless of shape/size/color..etc. can care deeply for each other.

This is completely irrelevant because in all cases of Romance, Bioware never states that there is love.  What they do allow is for you to eventually build up enough relationship with a character that you can have sex with them.

If Commander Shepard had a brother, I am sure that they would "care for each other deeply" but obviously the brother would not be a romance option.

Your entire argument is pointless.

Back to playing devil's advocate...

Bioware HAS stated there is love. Case in point, DA:O - Morrigan clearly states she loves the main character, provided that romance and the subsequent choice you have concerning her is made in her favor.

KOTOR: Bastila states she loves the main character if you romanced her and then later saved her.

So saying Bioware doesn't ever state there is love is clearly false.

Back into the shadows I go.

[Pocketgb]

Lethys1 wrote...

P.S. I don't care how advanced or sentient you are, all of that is bestiality in my book.

We're sorry you feel that way.

[PiercedMonk]

The heart wants what the heart wants. Or groin. Whatever.



Fact is, people get off on rubbing up against all sorts of things. Woman marries dolphin. Guy marries his Gameboy. Should we condem or look down on these people because they're arroused by or attracted to something outside of the societal norm? Absolutely! These people are freaks.



Just kidding.



I don't think I'd go so far as to say that I'm opposed to the interspecies relationships in 'Mass Effect'. Really, I'm just curious to know how things would work. Even with the asari, there would be some awkwardness, as there's no real reason they should find vaginal intercourse stimulating. However, I've seen enough posts by people attracted the menagerie tagging along on Shepard's trek across the stars that obviously there's some precedent for BioWare's decision to include such relationships as fanservice. Though, I don't think it any more likely that someone will be able to explain to me why they find Garrus attractive, then I'd be able to explian why I find corset piercings attractive.

[SomethinNothing]

LucidStrike wrote...

SomethinNothing wrote...

LucidStrike wrote...

"Lower animals"? Ironically, there's a lot of human exceptionalism here, even from those who are defending xenophilia.

It's a bit of an archaic description. I was simply trying to quote from an online dictionary the same as him. Lower doesn't necessarily mean less worthy, simply that they aren't as intellectually developed [as far as WE can tell, by OUR standards].

It's still human exceptionalism, because, while it's culturally acceptable to call nonhuman animals 'lower', it's not so acceptable to call a human 'lower'.

They aren't "our standards" they're any reasonable standards. Non-human animals may function better in certain ways than humans because of differences in evolution but they show little concern mentally for anything other than the necessities of life: reproduction and survival on a day to day basis. Humans are slaves to these necessities as well but they are able to see beyond them in a variety of different ways that ultimately show them to be much more adapted and capable of survival as a result.

Thus, other species are "lower". Because of his sentience man can design tools that will allow him to achieve and surpass any skill or ability that any other animal has, while no other known species can do the same to him. Sentience is the key here. It's not acceptable to call another human "lower" because Humans as a whole have achieved sentience. If they lose that sentience on an individual level for some reason, medical issues perhaps, they should still be afforded it for so long as there is the possibility of it being returned to them.

[ResidentNoob]

stylepoints wrote...

I heard the garrus one was also nice. I however couldn't bring myself to play through and see it. It is good though from what I've heard. My hat is off to bioware for not just making it about seeing some pixelated chick in a bra this time around.

Oh yeah? Try the Miranda romance.<_<