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The Inquisitor: The Same Hero for DA 4 and 5?


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I seriously doubt it. Despite what people have said here, I felt that the ending wraps up most of the immediate plot threads and the idea is that the Inquisition will be a major power in southern Thedas with influence stretching north.

 

To be frank, I expect DA4 to be mostly set around the Anderfels and surrounding nations. Somewhere in the North, at least. Basically somewhere which is *outside* the Inquisition's main sphere of influence and the immediate geographical ramifications of the various events of DA:I.



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I hope not - I like having a new protagonist each game. I mean, I wouldn't be mortally offended if we played Inquisitor again, but its not my preference


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We've had new characters in sequels to this point so seems odd that our inquisitor would carry over as a playable character next time.

I thought the next game was going to be focused on the Tevinter Qunari war anyway. So hopefully a Tevinter blood mage will be a playabe character and put the cows in their place.

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If the story calls for it, absolutely.  I think Hawke should've been the protag for this game, but due to DA2's reception, it didn't happen.  I think the story would've been a lot stronger in ways had that come to pass.  A future game with the Inquisitor would also be conceivable.  Plus, it could start getting a bit rediculous with a new protag every game, unless the time span jumped or something.  I like how Mass Effect allowed for you to get to know Shepard for three whole games.  One game doesn't always feel like enough for some characters.  

 

And for people saying that it wouldn't work for the DA universe, I totally disagree.  It doesn't have to be more than two games and it could add so much to the story of the world.  Whereas, each new protag has to have a new set of reasons to be added into the whole story.  I'll go back to my previous statement about how Hawke made more sense for some of this story.  Cory is her/his enemy and there's even a family tie to it.  Hawke was who Cass and Leliana were looking for.  Hawke was at the heart of the Mage - Templar conflict.  etc.    The Inquisitor just had that mark on their hand.  We don't know if the Inquisitor was right for that role, of leading an army and saving the world.  They were just at the right (wrong?) place at the right time.

 

What matters to me most is what the writers feel is best.  What is going to make the better, stronger story?  They got something good cooking and I'm anxious to see where it leads.


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As I've mentioned before, I think it would really work out if the next protagonist gets recruited by the Inquisition and basically you play as a new hero within the Inquisition ranks. The Inquisitor could exist as he has a voice and the new protagonist could become his adviser or maybe the Inquisitor is now gone after many years and you start leading. Personally, I don't like either way. I think it would be great if we just get recruited like we did in Origins and then play as a less famous hero. Or it could be something completely different and take place in the North where no Inquisition stepped on. The Inquisition seems like a pretty big thing to not be a big part of the story though.


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I really hope they don't bring the Inquisitor back. I like my Inquisitor, but I want a shiny new protagonist with a new voice and everything. 

 

Although the Inquisitor being the protagonist again would save them from being relegated to Just Another Contrived Cameo.... 

 

i think the whole inquisition and story is a bust... recycled villian, no depth or controversy... but i guess i made a mistake thinking the indoc theory could be a possibility and DA:I would be more than just: you hero, hero kills stuff and helps people, hero kills bad guy, the end


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I agree with the sentiment that Hawke should have been the protagonist in this one if they were planning on the recurring hero path. I grew quite attached to mine for all the difference she made. I will likely get just as attached to my Inquisitor, of course, but it feels like Hawke didn't really get much of a chance to shine.

 

That said, I don't mind them bringing our Inquisitors back for the next games, but only if they learned from the ME3 blunders. The characters that mattered to us in this game still need to matter just as much in the future ones. LIs have to remain intact and have somewhere to grow or wither based on ongoing choices. The challenge would be making a game with an engaging plot that shows us something new, while maintaining a consistent personal storyline with the old and allowing what we do to still matter. If they can pull that off, I'm fine with it.

 

I haven't beaten this game yet, but provided they didn't nuke the fridge for the Inquisitor, I believe it's possible.

 

That doesn't mean I wouldn't prefer creating a new hero. If I had to lean one way or the other, I'd lean towards new, just because I'd rather not risk my Inquisitor's canon by dragging her across 3 games if the team isn't up to the writing and coding challenge. Considering some of the personal canon shattering glitches present in this game regarding past heroes, I'm not certain that they are. And trust that I will absolutely nitpick any lapse because I love the characters I've created in Bioware's worlds.


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I'd rather have a new protagonist for each DA game, personally. 

 

I also seem to be in a minority, based on my skimming through this thread, in not wanting Hawke as the player character in DAI. In DAO, you create the warden, play through their backstory leading up to their becoming the warden. It makes it much more personal. DAI didn't go quite that far, but you at least got more influence than you did with Hawke. Hawke was human, male or female, with identical backstory regardless of class. Hawke wasn't a character you created so much as a character you simply controlled. 

 

I've no issues with Hawke making cameos, being referenced, or even acting as a support character . . . but I'd rather create my own character, with a more personalized back story. In future DA games, I'd love to see branching origin stories for each race or class again; it makes them more unique. 



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Nah, DA franchise's only consistent protagonist should be Thedas and nothing else. Shepard worked for ME series because story basically evolved around her/him, DA is a different kind.



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I already explained in another thread that I'm getting tired of having a newbie in each new DA and go again through dialogs about the lore again and again.

Oh yeah and in each epiode we still play the savior so why not just kept the warden like in my fan fiction ?

This would've saved us much of time >.>

 

The benefit of this fiction would be to get a consistent world with regular returning characters for cameos.

Also to be able to carry over the romance and see it grow through time or break because people have different opinions on different matters.

That would've letted us (for example) the choice to keep Leliana not hardened and just be in love with the warden or see a heartborken reunion with Morrigan where the warden will see his child, etc...


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Let Bioware do their job. Whether we like it or not, time will settle us.


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They have set the ending to seem like you can carry on as the inquisitor.. so I wouldn't mind.


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I already explained in another thread that I'm getting tired of having a newbie in each new DA and go again through dialogs about the lore again and again.

Oh yeah and in each epiode we still play the savior so why not just kept the warden like in my fan fiction ?

This would've saved us much of time >.>

 

 

That's not a function of having a different protagonist, though.  That's a function of being a sequel set in the same setting and having to explain things to new players.  It makes no sense for my qunari to ask Bull about Qunari and Tal-Vashoth, but he does.  It's not because the character needs to know.  It's because I, as the player, need to know.

 

They had to redefine concepts throughout the ME series as well.  How many different ways did they have to explain what happened to the Protheans?  It's because we get new players each game and they need to learn the Lore too.  Having a set protagonist won't fix this.



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I'd like an expansion or at least some DLCs, but I'm completely fine with the Inquisitor not returning as playable again in future games. I may even prefer it.



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I'm almost certain that's their plan. I guess a lot of it depends on the sales figures of DA:I, though...

I have a feeling the Inquisitor will be the new Shepherd... There's obviously going to be another Blight at some point so Darkspawn can make a return, the Qunari will invade and the Elves will rise up to take their homeland. That could easily be covered in the next two games.


I'm almost certain that their plan is to have a new protagonist for every game. However, I have precedent on my side, and you don't.

Having a different protagonist each time gives them the freedom to tell a new and interesting story every game, without being tied down to a specific locale, time or circumstance.

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I would be surprised if Bioware decided to keep the Inquisitor as the protagonist for the next two games.  At the very least, it would mean locking people into a role they may not want for the next two games, as well as locking off certain character background choices (unless they retcon them in).

 

However, I wouldn't be surprised if the new PC were a member of the Inquisition...it would allow them to re-use certain assets, give the main character a somewhat similar background beyond their race/gender/social status and a rationale for getting involved in the problems of Thedas.  And given the diverse backgrounds of those who joined the Inquisition, pretty much any character background could, concievably, be part of it.  With a little bit of stretching in some cases.  Plus, the Inquisition becomes such a huge thing it's hard to imagine any game happening in Orlais/Ferelden/the Free Marches without them being somewhat involved.

Of course, that would invalidate the whole "Inquisition picks up swords when needed, puts them down when they're not needed anymore" thing Mother Giselle was on about, but oh well.  No-one said we had to follow her advice.



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IMO, Tevinter seems like the destination for the next game. Lore-wise, it's the most "magical" setting in modern Thedas, and gives gamers to explore potential answers to the really big questions of the DA mythos - The nature of the Fade, Veil, Blights, Old Gods, etc. 

 

Politically, you have the internal chaos in the wake of Venatori meddling in the south and the ongoing conflict with the Qunari - which means plenty of room for Tevinter/Qunari-related character cameos. Fenris leading slave uprisings? Dorian trying to restore a moderate element to the magocracy? Sten Arishok-ing? All sorts of fun potential.

 

I'm hoping for Origin stories and a new protagonist. That said, I'm pretty sure we're unlikely to see Origin stories ever again, because they're extremely hard for developers - time wise, they represent a lot of investment by devs in non-skippable "main quest" type material. When devs creature mutually-exclusive quest paths, these tend to be limited to binary options - In Hushed Whispers vs Champions of the Just, for example. Origins had 6 (2 elf, 2 dwarf, human, mage) mutually exclusive introductions. Developer-wise it tends to make more sense for them to make fewer intro options, and use the extra time on a main quest everyone gets to enjoy. That said, I've got a pretty good work-around in mind if they decide to use Tevinter as the setting. (You're part of a House, but whether you're a noble, servant, slave, visiting emissary, etc... to start with is up to you. Would let them use the same area for every introduction but have whatever you're up to before the initial DRAMATIC MOMENT vary.) 


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IMO, Tevinter seems like the destination for the next game. Lore-wise, it's the most "magical" setting in modern Thedas, and gives gamers to explore potential answers to the really big questions of the DA mythos - The nature of the Fade, Veil, Blights, Old Gods, etc. 

 

Politically, you have the internal chaos in the wake of Venatori meddling in the south and the ongoing conflict with the Qunari - which means plenty of room for Tevinter/Qunari-related character cameos. Fenris leading slave uprisings? Dorian trying to restore a moderate element to the magocracy? Sten Arishok-ing? All sorts of fun potential.

 

I'm hoping for Origin stories and a new protagonist. That said, I'm pretty sure we're unlikely to see Origin stories ever again, because they're extremely hard for developers - time wise, they represent a lot of investment by devs in non-skippable "main quest" type material. When devs creature mutually-exclusive quest paths, these tend to be limited to binary options - In Hushed Whispers vs Champions of the Just, for example. Origins had 6 (2 elf, 2 dwarf, human, mage) mutually exclusive introductions. Developer-wise it tends to make more sense for them to make fewer intro options, and use the extra time on a main quest everyone gets to enjoy. That said, I've got a pretty good work-around in mind if they decide to use Tevinter as the setting. (You're part of a House, but whether you're a noble, servant, slave, visiting emissary, etc... to start with is up to you. Would let them use the same area for every introduction but have whatever you're up to before the initial DRAMATIC MOMENT vary.) 

 

Totally agreed on Tevinter. We meet so many of them in this game, and the writers spend a lot of time humanizing them (Dorian, Lord Pavus, Alexius, Servis). I'd bet a decent amount the next game is Dragon Age: Imperium or similar.



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I like having a new main every game, gives me a nostalgic feeling for my past characters. Plus then it gives me a new person to love :)

 

If the Inquisitor were recycled I wouldn't be super keen on that. I posted before about my indifference to the Inquisitor so out of all possible returning protags the Inquisitor definitely wouldn't be at the top of my list. The companions, well that's a different story :)



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I'm at most half way complete with the story and I really hope Bioware learns from Bethesda and makes the next game hundreds of years later so that they don't need to port saves or use the Keep. It would be ideal to me so that the next DA and ME games could stand as complete individual games without being tied down with the burden of complex lore and canon, just look at how hand tied the Star Wars expanded universe is and ask yourself if you really want DA and ME ending up the same.



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My personal preference setting in DA4 (if there ever is one) is a Qunari invasion. A protagonist that is subject to the Qun would be nice. Would like to experience Qunari culture, also would like to see those dreadnoughts up close and Qunari powder in action.



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I'm at most half way complete with the story and I really hope Bioware learns from Bethesda and makes the next game hundreds of years later so that they don't need to port saves or use the Keep. It would be ideal to me so that the next DA and ME games could stand as complete individual games without being tied down with the burden of complex lore and canon, just look at how hand tied the Star Wars expanded universe is and ask yourself if you really want DA and ME ending up the same.

I really hope BioWare WON'T do what Bethesda did. Why? Because current direction of Dragon Age games makes this series very consistent. I love returning characters and loads of references to the events from the past games. It makes me feel close to this world.

Making it like Bethesda is good only for those who are new to Dragon Age. That's all.


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I'm at most half way complete with the story and I really hope Bioware learns from Bethesda and makes the next game hundreds of years later so that they don't need to port saves or use the Keep. It would be ideal to me so that the next DA and ME games could stand as complete individual games without being tied down with the burden of complex lore and canon, just look at how hand tied the Star Wars expanded universe is and ask yourself if you really want DA and ME ending up the same.

But the issue is the game franchise is called Dragon Age. As in, taking place in the age of Dragon. So if they fast forwarded, we'd either get this weird "Oh-we're-calling-it-Dragon-Age-but-it's-not-REALLY-the-dragon-age" or it'd be something like "Nug Age: Origins" which is....eh. I don't think they'd risk rebranding their successful series.



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I've made several inquisitors, how could i choose just one?


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I hope for a new character. I had no connection to my Inq, just a random dude with no backstory. And I didn't care for the spare jeebus position.